Im Fed Up With Western Foreign Policy

DR OSMAN

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I'll start by saying, their is much to admire about the west in terms of their human rights which creates a sense of peace among it's people and their freedom values allows for ideas to flourish without fear, coupled with their good governance based on consistent/repeatable rules for all and not unpredictable opinions or imperfect strong men like most of the world. This has led to their tremendous civilization leading in wealth, knowledge, science, security.

But their foreign policy really sucks, if that was measured the losses they have achieved probably outweigh their economy. Every historical area in the world, their seems to be a blood-bath or instability, why? Mali-Timbuktu Libraries, Sudan, Ethio, Somalia. Baghdad-Syria-Yemen. Is this a concentrated policy to leave the mid-east and africa to peoples and countries who have no long history beyond colonialism? if that is the goal, then their foreign policy is working, how-ever if that isn't the goal, then why is this emerging?

Don't give me that the West is infallible and perfect, you can enjoy hollywood movies and how America is the hero and everyone else is a villain narrative, but that's for entertainment, you need to switch off ur hollywood minds to reality, the reality is the CIA proved they cooked up intel on Iraq having WMD in broad-daylight in-front of the UN and the world to fit their government narrative.

The govt doesn't set the narrative in most intelligence agencies, the intelligence sets the narrative the govt should pursue based on careful analysis of intel through a number of techniques such as balancing it out with other intel sources, researching history, finding root causes, repetitive actors, goals/motives of intel source, testing character of the person to present their negativities/weaknesse, and many more. But that's not what we saw, so anyone who believes America is perfect even after that, your in a wishful thinking bubble.
 

GemState

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The goal is simply to sanction to hell any non aligned potential competition, Iran, Iraq, Russia, NK. Their internal societies will rot and the social contract will eventually come undone

If an African version of Bismarck was born in Congo or The Horn to create a real state, he'd get called a warlord and taken to the ICC. The West is determined to distort history, create stalemates and prevent emergences of a clear winner like in Rwanda or Angola. Whether its malicious or due to ignorance about the reality of state building I don't know.
 
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Shimbiris

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The goal is simply to sanction to hell any non aligned potential competition, Iran, Iraq, Russia, NK. Their internal societies will rot and the social contract will eventually come undone

If an African version of Bismarck was born in Congo or The Horn to create a real state, he'd get called a warlord and taken to the ICC. The West is determined to distort history, create stalemates and prevent emergences of a clear winner like in Rwanda or Angola. Whether its malicious or due to ignorance about the reality of state building I don't know.

The Tutsi would have conquered the Congo and stabilized it ages ago but every time they even got close the gaalo were there with Bono, the peace corps and whatever other meddling bullshit. They're determined to not let the natural course of history play out in the 3rd world. Most of these places would be fine right now if the natural order of things played out.
 
The Tutsi would have conquered the Congo and stabilized it ages ago but every time they even got close the gaalo were there with Bono, the peace corps and whatever other meddling bullshit. They're determined to not let the natural course of history play out in the 3rd world. Most of these places would be fine right now if the natural order of things played out.
It’s not about peace it’s about those natural resources estimated at 24 trillions dollars that Paul Kagame wants.

Paul kagame is a smart guy he wants his Tutsi to dominate the Central African countries.
 

DR OSMAN

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@Kabtaanka @GemState I also don't know if it's the west ignorance or if it's malicious their foreign policy. Natural resources theory has some merit but it's not the final blow to world domination, removing countries or areas with pre-colonial memories is definitely apart of their foreign policy so you people the regions with people with no pre-colonial history, thus you set the narrative and if they try to study history, the books all begin at the colonial period. That's mental colonization. That's very dangerous
 
@Kabtaanka @GemState I also don't know if it's the west ignorance or if it's malicious their foreign policy. Natural resources theory has some merit but it's not the final blow to world domination, removing countries or areas with pre-colonial memories is definitely apart of their foreign policy so you people the regions with people with no pre-colonial history, thus you set the narrative and if they try to study history, the books all begin at the colonial period. That's mental colonization. That's very dangerous
It’s even worse today The west’s foreign policy is neocolonialism stealing your resources, using defense, democracy, development African states are forced to accept the first 2 and maybe you’ll get the last through the world bank and imf.

the Russians and Chinese are different look at Syria the Russians came in helped change the war then they started the development of Syria they didn’t care about democracy or that Assad family has been ruling Syria the last 50 years.

the Chinese are all about development they don’t care about democracy and defense there the most reliable partner to African’s.
 
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DR OSMAN

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Keep crying leftist. Get the hell out of Australia.

I know u love the hollywood narrative but pls detach to reality. America isn't perfect. It even proved to the world it cooked up WMD intel on Iraq. That alone should make u not swallow everything they preach like a monkey.

Everywhere America has touched or is involved is a crime-scene, we in Australia know effective empires like the british, their africa/asian dominions were not blood-baths and they grew relative fast to where they were. America is simply the worst empire the earth has seen.
 

DR OSMAN

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Keep crying leftist. Get the hell out of Australia.

Im glad im hated by the right, nationalist, left economics, islamist, secularist, centralist. I take good points of each so Somalia can have a pure system of excellence, leaving behind their negatives in various idealogies. I don't ever swing 1 way cuz u also collect its negatives, I swing bits here and there multiple ways and then craft a idealogy of excellence.
 

Omar del Sur

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Im glad im hated by the right, nationalist, left economics, islamist, secularist, centralist. I take good points of each so Somalia can have a pure system of excellence, leaving behind their negatives in various idealogies. I don't ever swing 1 way cuz u also collect its negatives, I swing bits here and there multiple ways and then craft a idealogy of excellence.

what is the "ideology of excellence"? I would like you to spell it out.
 

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