If S/land is recognised Somalia should centralise rapidly

[Abaq]

If the treacherous iiddoors are recognised by the neocons in the declining American Empire, Somalia will need to centralise rapidly and pivot towards China aggressively. Hawiye and Darod will need to put aside their petty squabbles to face the twin iiddoor threats of Al Shabab and Somaliland. We will also need to give up on liberalism and this fake democracy malarkey in exchange for a strong illiberal authoritarian regime with Somali and Islamic characteristics (a permanent 4.5 arrangement with a semi-permanent parliament and a 10 year politburo that will chose a leader every 10 years).

The country won’t survive unless drastic measures are taken if the West recognises the treacherous iiddoors. I say this despite my deep distrust of the hutus.

 

[The Oponian Guild]

1. Rash foreign policy stance
2. No solution to political gridlock apart from authoritarianism and repackaged 4.5 (already been tried)
3. Weaponised Somali nationalism against somalis.

can unionists bring anything better to the table?

 

[Garaad Awal]

Treacherous Isaaqs Keep crying you Kenyan Kikuyu occupied Jabarti

 

[peterpeter]

1. Rash foreign policy stance
2. No solution to political gridlock apart from authoritarianism and repackaged 4.5 (already been tried)
3. Weaponised Somali nationalism against somalis.

can unionists bring anything better to the table?

they just dont get it their existence is hanging on by a thread that isnt even theirs

 

[Samaale55]

Advocating for a Somali version of resistard Qutbism in 2025

 

[Jaffar]

there isnt going to be any recognition the US isnt going to divide somalia

 

[Garaad Awal]

there isnt going to be any recognition the US isnt going to divide somalia

When will you free yourselves instead of wailing about Isaaqs?

 

[Jaffar]

Free from what, i didnt mention isaaq

 

[Saleh]

You people destroyed Somalia and the status quo of the UN & One Somalia policy has given you enough comfort to live in denial aqoonsi will be the nail in the coffin of this godforsaken project, good riddance

 

[Zak12]

China is the one that is dying, anyone who thinks America will be surpassed by them is being silly. Right now Somalia benefits way more from being on the west's side.

Al-Shabab is public enemy number one, and should be the main focus of attention. Forget about Somaliland which has its own baggage and troubles to deal with.

 

[Namso]

China is the one that is dying, anyone who thinks America will be surpassed by them is being silly. Right now Somalia benefits way more from being on the west's side.

Al-Shabab is public enemy number one, and should be the main focus of attention. Forget about Somaliland which has its own baggage and troubles to deal with.

Sorry, but in 10-20 years, America will become 10-12 separate countries. This is the fate of falling empires, like what happened to the Ottomans (Sykes-Picot), the Soviet Union, and others it's over for them. The three new powers will be Russia, China, and Europe, and maybe the Turks as well. There might even be a neo-Caliphate once America hands the Middle East over to them and gets rid of bin Salman, Sisi, and other despicable leaders to prevent expose. But it won't be Ottoman but more Arabic i thinks, so Turkey can appease the Arabs and Muslims.

The Europeans will have no choice but to ally with the Muslims as well. The three new superpowers won't spare America. Soon, it's going to be China versus the USA in the Pacific Ocean. If they lose, it's game over for them. According to their war games, they lose 100% of the time.

Also, Somalia benefits from being with Turkey because China, America, and Russia are just gangs and criminals no morals, no deen, nothing. All these wars like gaza,sudan, ukraine etc are wars of strategic location for the world superpowers to guarantee supply lines and waterways.

 

[Garaad Awal]

Free from what, i didnt mention isaaq

Stop pretending to be a dhaandhaan

 

[NidarNidar]

Sorry, but in 10-20 years, America will become 10-12 separate countries. This is the fate of falling empires, like what happened to the Ottomans (Sykes-Picot), the Soviet Union, and others it's over for them. The three new powers will be Russia, China, and Europe, and maybe the Turks as well. There might even be a neo-Caliphate once America hands the Middle East over to them and gets rid of bin Salman, Sisi, and other despicable leaders to prevent expose. But it won't be Ottoman but more Arabic i thinks, so Turkey can appease the Arabs and Muslims.

The Europeans will have no choice but to ally with the Muslims as well. The three new superpowers won't spare America. Soon, it's going to be China versus the USA in the Pacific Ocean. If they lose, it's game over for them. According to their war games, they lose 100% of the time.

Also, Somalia benefits from being with Turkey because China, America, and Russia are just gangs and criminals no morals, no deen, nothing. All these wars like gaza,sudan, ukraine etc are wars of strategic location for the world superpowers to guarantee supply lines and waterways.

America aint going anytime soon, it will slowly degrade over the next couple hundred years unless there is another global war.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

If the treacherous iiddoors are recognised by the neocons in the declining American Empire, Somalia will need to centralise rapidly and pivot towards China aggressively. Hawiye and Darod will need to put aside their petty squabbles to face the twin iiddoor threats of Al Shabab and Somaliland. We will also need to give up on liberalism and this fake democracy malarkey in exchange for a strong illiberal authoritarian regime with Somali and Islamic characteristics (a permanent 4.5 arrangement with a semi-permanent parliament and a 10 year politburo that will chose a leader every 10 years).

The country won’t survive unless drastic measures are taken if the West recognises the treacherous iiddoors. I say this despite my deep distrust of the hutus.

We seen this aggressive pivot to a different super power before.
It's like we seen this movie before.
Maybe just accept you don't get to claim territority in 5 different countries. Darood dream was never possible. I don't think Hutus would accept they would probably just prefer to consolidate.

Hutu rule with weak central government under a mixture of foreign support is the permenant establishment with some elements of federalism.

 

[Jaale Ugaas]

If the treacherous iiddoors are recognised by the neocons in the declining American Empire, Somalia will need to centralise rapidly and pivot towards China aggressively. Hawiye and Darod will need to put aside their petty squabbles to face the twin iiddoor threats of Al Shabab and Somaliland. We will also need to give up on liberalism and this fake democracy malarkey in exchange for a strong illiberal authoritarian regime with Somali and Islamic characteristics (a permanent 4.5 arrangement with a semi-permanent parliament and a 10 year politburo that will chose a leader every 10 years).

The country won’t survive unless drastic measures are taken if the West recognises the treacherous iiddoors. I say this despite my deep distrust of the hutus.

Sxb what happened I thought you wanted to leave the Infertile Republic?

Shouldnt you be supporting SL seccesion effort?

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Sxb what happened I thought you wanted to leave the Infertile Republic?

Shouldnt you be supporting SL seccesion effort?

He was crying when the Hawiye were going to centralize without him. Now he thinks he can share in the spoils, using the Somaliland crisis.

 

[The Oponian Guild]

He was crying when the Hawiye were going to centralize without him. Now he thinks he can share in the spoils, using the Somaliland crisis.

6-7 million strong and about as relevant in Somali politics as Dhulbahante. No wonder they play the Darod card all the time. Complete political ineptitude, concurrently occupied and ruled by two countries, what am I doing even engaging with these mouth breathers?

 

[Jaale Ugaas]

6-7 million strong and about as relevant in Somali politics as Dhulbahante. No wonder they play the Darod card all the time. Complete political ineptitude, concurrently occupied and ruled by two countries, what am I doing even engaging with these mouth breathers?

Somali politics is limited to the internationally recognized borders of Somalia.

Majority of OG population is outside the 18 constituent regions of the Federal Republic of Somalia. They should be relegated to mid tier political relevance because that aligns with the numbers.

 

[Abaq]

Listen laangaabs, since the establishment of Jubaland we have made it clear that we are here to stay. Somalia is Jubaland and Jubaland is Somalia. Hamze has been an unfortunate setback for us laakiin dalkaan anakaa leh, lacjexlana way naga haysaa.

In that vain, it is in my interest to preserve the country, preferably under my leadership which is the inevitable conclusion to all of this. Soo dhowaada

 

[The Oponian Guild]

Somali politics is limited to the internationally recognized borders of Somalia.

Majority of OG population is outside the 18 constituent regions of the Federal Republic of Somalia. They should be relegated to mid tier political relevance because that aligns with the numbers.

They already are by default. Only promising sector seems to be the NFD/kenya where they’re somewhat more relevant. DDS is completely irrelevant be it economically or politically.