I never knew oromos had it so bad in Ethiopia

[Dontcomefome]

Mecha and Tulama Self-help Association​

Despite initially rejecting the nationalist sentiments that existed among his people, the Oromo, General Tadesse Birru's views were changed during a talk with Prime Minister Aklilu Habtewold. As chairman of the National Literacy Campaign, Tadesse held a meeting with the Prime Minister during which Aklilu, not knowing Tadesse Birru's heritage, suggested that it was unwise to educate or recruit Oromos to the military. This is the comment that is believed to have influenced the general's decision to join the Mecha and Tulama Self-Help Association in early 1963, an Oromo social movement in which he went on to become a prominent figure.

His public image helped elevate the association's status and his organizational capacities and leadership qualities transformed the self-help organization into a pan-Oromo movement. Through the organization, Tadesse Birru, advocated the empowerment of Oromos through education and an emphasis on self-reliance. Following his example, many Oromo military officers, civilian officials, professional elites, businessmen and religious leaders joined the association. Many of these people had hidden the fact that they were Oromo before joining the association and joining it was seen as a reaffirmation of identity.

SO OROMOS HAD TO HIDE THE FACT THAT THEY WERE OROMO WOW

 

[Nilotic]

How can 30 million + people be so easily suppressed?

 

[Al-Ma'mun]

How can 30 million + people be so easily suppressed?

Low iq

 

[Nilotic]

Low iq

I doubt that; I think something else is at play.

 

[Al-Ma'mun]

I doubt that; I think something else is at play.

Are there Oromos members on this forum? Maybe they can shed light on why they have been colonized for the last few centuries by the Amhara/Tigrayan Habeshas

 

[Nilotic]

Are there Oromos members on this forum? Maybe they can shed light on why they have been colonized for the last few centuries by the Amhara/Tigrayan Habeshas

Yeah, there is at least 1 Oromo member on here, so he should definitely lay it all out if or when he can.

 

[Abba Sadacha]

How can 30 million + people be so easily suppressed?

not so easy if it took massive support from the west to suppress us Oromos, is it?

 

[reer]

I doubt that; I think something else is at play.

modern ethiopian was founded on the basis of amhara/habesha colonizing and massacring oromos. oromo religios demographics. it is significant christian ethiopian orthodox population. significant muslim population. and some pagans. the oromo elites are bonafide amhara/habesha. and alot of oromos believe in oromo unity which is bs because of the ethiopian orthodoxism.

 

[Nilotic]

not so easy if it took massive support from the west to suppress us Oromos, is it?

So it all began during the colonial period?

 

[Al-Ma'mun]

So it all began during the colonial period?

He's lying, only some sections of the Oromos were conquered during that time like the Arsi ethnic group and perhaps the Afran Qallo on the Somali-Oromo border and also the Southern Borana.

 

[Abba Sadacha]

So it all began during the colonial period?

It's too complex, but to sum it up:
Oromo clans, and Amhara groups been at war for 400+ years, with neither side being able to fully vanquish/conquer the other side, it wasn't until the European elites armed the abyssinan elites, while denying firearms to the other side [oromos, somalis too actually], that the balance of power altered. basically, european generals, firearms and expertise formed the ethiopian state, for their own interests [to gain access to the resources in oromo land, and elsewhere is what is known as southern ethiopia today].


''According to Martial de Salviac (2005 [1901]: 350), “With equal arms, the Abyssinia [would] never [conquer] an inch of land. With the power of firearms imported from Europe, Menelik [Abyssinian warlord] began a murderous revenge.” The colonization of Oromia involved human tragedy and destruction'''

http://www.jpanafrican.org/docs/vol5no1/5.1Gadaa.pdf

^ a great source for history on this issue.

 

[reer]

@Abba Sadacha why the qashin? you admit the language of the rulers who massacred and borderline genocided your people is part of your cultural identity.

many of us oromos consider amharic as one of ''our'' languages.

He's lying, only some sections of the Oromos were conquered during that time like the Arsi ethnic group and perhaps the Afran Qallo on the Somali-Oromo border and also the Southern Borana.

arsi were brave geesiyaal. theyre pro somali too.

 

[Abba Sadacha]

@Abba Sadacha why the qashin? you admit the language of the rulers who massacred and borderline genocided your people is part of your cultural identity.





arsi were brave geesiyaal. theyre pro somali too.

Because what you said makes little sense, bro.
Nothing wrong with being bilingual, it's beneficial actually. If I speak some of my enemies language, while they cannot speak mines; that gives me an advantage.
My dad, Allaah Yarhamu, spoke many languages, from the somali language to amharic to oromo and others.

 

[reer]

@Abba Sadacha why the qashin? you admit the language of the rulers who massacred and borderline genocided your people is part of your cultural identity.

Because what you said makes little sense, bro.
Nothing wrong with being bilingual, it's beneficial actually. If I speak some of my enemies language, while they cannot speak mines; that gives me an advantage.
My dad, Allaah Yarhamu, spoke many languages, from the somali language to amharic to oromo and others.

menelik has been successful. i rest my case.

 

[Abba Sadacha]

menelik has been successful. i rest my case.

Basically, you lack an actual response that makes sense.... thanks!

 

[Al-Ma'mun]

Basically, you lack an actual response that makes sense.... thanks!

When was your tribe conquered walaal? Pre-Menelik or post-Menelik?

 

[Abba Sadacha]

When was your tribe conquered walaal? Pre-Menelik or post-Menelik?

The vast majority of Oromo clans were brought under Ethiopia during Menelik's time, since that' when he got tens of thousands of European firearms to change the balance of power militarily.
My clan is pretty big, about 14 million strong today, spread over a large land, so we were brought under Ethiopia over the course of a few years, starting in the 1880's.
Not much we could've done when they had 10's of thousands of rifles, while we were denied those weapons.

 

[Al-Ma'mun]

The vast majority of Oromo clans were brought under Ethiopia during Menelik's time, since that' when he got tens of thousands of European firearms to change the balance of power militarily.
My clan is pretty big, about 14 million strong today, spread over a large land, so we were brought under Ethiopia over the course of a few years, starting in the 1880's.
Not much we could've done when they had 10's of thousands of rifles, while we were denied those weapons.

Is your clan largely christian or muslim?

 

[Abba Sadacha]

Is your clan largely christian or muslim?

Mostly Muslim, but there's a significant portion that are Christian.

 

[World]

How can 30 million + people be so easily suppressed?

Historically it was the Oromos who were the strongest ethnicity in Ethiopia. But the European colonialists armed the Habeshas with 100,000 rifles and weaponry in the 19th century because they were a Christian empire, whilst denying everyone else in the Horn with the same opportunity. This tilted the balance of powers and allowed them to expand outside of the Amhara-Tigray region, and create Ethiopia. They’ve been maintaining this power ever since.