I blame Somali parents for shitty kids.

[babooshke]

idc. I'm not gonna coddle somali parents.

when they breed and have 7 kids, which they know themselves that they don't have the time to amply supervise and properly care for, then they raise them in the ghettos, it's not surprising when they end up dead beat and criminals and wastes of space.

having 7 kids in a first world country alone is outrageous. having 7 kids when you live in public housing and clearly don't have the finances, let alone the time to properly care for them is just foolishness. This isn't back home. You can't leave a community full of crime and drugs to raise your children for you.

 

[Basra]

Now its very hard for me to judge African Americans and their crimes, if Somali offspring are doing the same things. It shows the west environment is not suitable for blacks in general. Indians thrive in the west. I have never seen an Indian thug in USA. I don't know about UK.

 

[CiiseMasiix]

Now its very hard for me to judge African Americans and their crimes, if Somali offspring are doing the same things. It shows the west environment is not suitable for blacks in general. Indians thrive in the west. I have never seen an Indian thug in USA. I don't know about UK.

Cause Asians are hardworking - Blacks are lazy and are akin to parasites.

 

[Yahya]

That argument can be applied to half of humanity. The child's morals and conduct in society is reflective of the family's values in general. I noticed that most kids that suffer from behavioural issues in the west are kids that come from disadvantaged backgrounds with parents that are either too busy working or don't know the language and culture that well and thus are taken advantage of by their children.

I've never seen children turn out that way in a family that instils moral values into their children from an early age.

 

[xLibaxsenderx]

Cheer up, it isn't all doom and gloom, if raised in a pious house the Brady bunch can be a luxurious life experience, there's always someone up.

 

[Basra]

That argument can be applied to half of humanity. The child's morals and conduct in society is reflective of the family's values in general. I noticed that most kids that suffer from behavioural issues in the west are kids that come from disadvantaged backgrounds with parents that are either too busy working or don't know the language and culture that well and thus are taken advantage of by their children.

I've never seen children turn out that way in a family that instils moral values into their children from an early age.

Not necessarily. I mean, yes, parent involvement is mandatory. But i have seen careful involved parents kids turn out bad. In fact, i know a famous sheikh who makes adhem in the mosque, his daughter is butch lesbian dancing in gay clubs

 

[Angelina]

This is more of an issue with the older gen. Now, the average Western Xalimo and Farax only have 2-4 kids. In 10+ yrs time, I don't think we'll have those issues with Western raised Somali parents.

When it comes to the older gen, It's a difficult one. Culture and religion dictates that couples should have as much children as possible and that children are a source of Barakha. Also, odeys have this obsession with being landheere and dangle polygamy over their wives heads if they don't stick to the memo and at least have 5+ kids.

Only issue is that with Somalis, the old gen men had a back home mentality that raising kids is a woman's only job despite expecting a whole football team. Its fine having that mentality in Xamar, Hargeisa, Burco, Gaalkacyo ect because mothers would have maids and the support of female family members who are surrounding them, in fact back home, for the first 2 months of child birth women do nothing. Usually a female family member would come around and take care of most of the chores.

But what help did a Xalimo in the West stuck in a little box council flat have? Who was alongside her, helping her with the kids? I'm sorry, but no woman can do it all and we wonder why the kids ended up being AWOL. If you want to raise successful kids in the West the backhome mentality of the dad being out of the house the whole day and sitting at a cafe thinking he is above household chores needs to die. I'm glad that a lot of young guys have now woke up and smelled the coffee. If you want to be like your dad, please go back home and move their permanently, don't have kids here and make a woman's life here a complete lonely misery. We women in the West, simply don't have the luxury of a strong support system outside if a husband and maybe our mothers who might live in the other side of the city.

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

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[Lovegrain]

Reer badiyo culture.

 

[Keep it a boqol]

The Issue that older gen have is that when you have a bunch a kids, the whole Tuulo watches them. You can’t bring that same hands off mentality to the western world and expect them to be on the right path due to the corrupting influences out here

 

[World]

Nothing wrong with having a big family. It’s praiseworthy. We must keep our birth rate high.

 

[Muslim?]

Thank God I have lived in UAE, Malaysia and mostly Islamic countries. Nonsense is just not tolerated in where I was raised. You're always surrounded by clean neighborhoods in UAE! I feel bad for the western diaspora. You guys deserve better.

 

[Lostbox]

I wouldn't have much expectations for the older generation that moved from 3rd world lifestyle to 1st world in a single trip. Not only are they far behind native peers there age. They have multiple roads blocked added into that.

They can't speak or read language. They completely opposite of a western E.G black, Muslim and so on. Most unfortunately they have no resources, connections or value skills to get hired. This subject itself has so many talking.

Few succeeded most fail.

I'm more interested in why some families produce so many professional while others are still I'm their ghetto there born in while both started in the same situation

 

[Calaami]

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This is facts, guri dowlad and ceyr available means the provider for the household is no longer the aabo- it’s the government.

The father recoups his masculine role as provider by marrying a doe eyed xalimo from his tuulo who waits hand and foot for what he has to provide.

Diaspora kids grow up near fatherless cycle weeye

 

[Taij4an]

This is more of an issue with the older gen. Now, the average Western Xalimo and Farax only have 2-4 kids. In 10+ yrs time, I don't think we'll have those issues with Western raised Somali parents.

When it comes to the older gen, It's a difficult one. Culture and religion dictates that couples should have as much children as possible and that children are a source of Barakha. Also, odeys have this obsession with being landheere and dangle polygamy over their wives heads if they don't stick to the memo and at least have 5+ kids.

Only issue is that with Somalis, the old gen men had a back home mentality that raising kids is a woman's only job despite expecting a whole football team. Its fine having that mentality in Xamar, Hargeisa, Burco, Gaalkacyo ect because mothers would have maids and the support of female family members who are surrounding them, in fact back home, for the first 2 months of child birth women do nothing. Usually a female family member would come around and take care of most of the chores.

But what help did a Xalimo in the West stuck in a little box council flat have? Who was alongside her, helping her with the kids? I'm sorry, but no woman can do it all and we wonder why the kids ended up being AWOL. If you want to raise successful kids in the West the backhome mentality of the dad being out of the house the whole day and sitting at a cafe thinking he is above household chores needs to die. I'm glad that a lot of young guys have now woke up and smelled the coffee. If you want to be like your dad, please go back home and move their permanently, don't have kids here and make a woman's life here a complete lonely misery. We women in the West, simply don't have the luxury of a strong support system outside if a husband and maybe our mothers who might live in the other side of the city.

The west really just wants people to have as little kids as possible, and make sure everyone is back in the pipeline of working as soon as possible.
Just get daycare centres and other government owned centres to raise your kids for you, make it too expensive to live normally without becoming a work horse yourself alongside your husband unless he is a small percentage who earns over a certain amount, make sure both man and women are working, make sure children are in the system from young being raised up until they are 23 by the education system just to overwork hours in a medium wage job a large amount of debt and repeat the cycle all over again.
Basically the west replaced family with government centres, this allows them to make more money, its a business deal, same with modern day medicine, most of it now is being swayed by pharmaceutical companies and big corporations who profit off of peoples illnesses due to their greed.
Having children now has become a even bigger burden on people, something that we should naturally want, now has through societal brainwashing and also the society we live in been made even harder, despite the excessive media convincing us that the western lifestyle is the best to live(I don't think life in third world countries is better than the west, but there are definitely things from the culture that is essential to a healthy community, in combination with he good parts of the west we would have a better society overall), Kids are a business scheme for the government, schools are a complete waste of time, kids really learn nothing, in fact most of them come out worse than before.

 

[Grimmer]

Having to many children isn’t the issue, there are a lot of things that play a role into having bad children.

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[Taij4an]

Having to many children isn’t the issue, there are a lot of things that play a role into having bad children.

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Did u hate it?
Im guessing u urself would never have 11 kids

 

[Grimmer]

Did u hate it?
Im guessing u urself would never have 11 kids

It depends, some days you do and some days you don’t. Growing up I hated it but once I got into high school I realized how lucky I was. There was never a boring day at home since the house is so diverse.
I plan on having a lot of kids as well if god wills. Right now if my parents died we would be able to take care of each other.

 

[Angelina]

The west really just wants people to have as little kids as possible, and make sure everyone is back in the pipeline of working as soon as possible.
Just get daycare centres and other government owned centres to raise your kids for you, make it too expensive to live normally without becoming a work horse yourself alongside your husband unless he is a small percentage who earns over a certain amount, make sure both man and women are working, make sure children are in the system from young being raised up until they are 23 by the education system just to overwork hours in a medium wage job a large amount of debt and repeat the cycle all over again.
Basically the west replaced family with government centres, this allows them to make more money, its a business deal, same with modern day medicine, most of it now is being swayed by pharmaceutical companies and big corporations who profit off of peoples illnesses due to their greed.
Having children now has become a even bigger burden on people, something that we should naturally want, now has through societal brainwashing and also the society we live in been made even harder, despite the excessive media convincing us that the western lifestyle is the best to live(I don't think life in third world countries is better than the west, but there are definitely things from the culture that is essential to a healthy community, in combination with he good parts of the west we would have a better society overall), Kids are a business scheme for the government, schools are a complete waste of time, kids really learn nothing, in fact most of them come out worse than before.

Another major issue is also having a support system. People are individualistic in the West and people don't live in a community setting which isn't great for the mental health of new mothers especially if the husband isn't helping. Back home, when you give birth you're surrounded by the women in your family who will come and help you. They might have a maid or a little sister who stays with them for a bit to help with the chores ect and they usually live in the same area as their parents and in-laws who can pop in and offer support and babysitting.

In the West, women literally can only rely on their husbands. How can you expect a woman to have a like 8 kids with no help? That hardly happens backhome. Even poorer women are surrounded by many people. Have you heard of the saying, it takes a village to a raise a child? That is the great thing about third world countries.

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[Taij4an]

Another major issue is also having a support system. People are individualistic in the West and people don't live in a community setting which isn't great for the mental health of new mothers especially if the husband isn't helping. Back home, when you give birth you're surrounded by the women in your family who will come and help you. They might have a maid or a little sister who stays with them for a bit to help with the chores ect and they usually live in the same area as their parents and in-laws who can pop in and offer support and babysitting.

In the West, women literally can only rely on their husbands. How can you expect a woman to have a like 8 kids with no help? That hardly happens backhome. Even poorer women are surrounded by many people. Have you heard of the saying, it takes a village to a raise a child? That is the great thing about third world countries.

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I think its the entire culture of the west, they are all gaals, what do you expect, they don't care about their own families, if you look at the way people think.
People spend 60% of their time at school, 30% of their time on technology, 5% of their time with their parents, they do this until they are 22 years old, by then there friends and the system have become their caretakers, when your raised by school, you don't have an attachment to your parents, now everyone want's to move out of their parents and live there own life far off.
They don't care about taking care of their parents, we have care homes for that, as non-Muslims they have no responsibility to anything, they do whatever they like, they can sleep with as many peoples daughters and sisters as they want, impregnate whoever they want and not have any responsibility, since in the west noone really knows anyone, i don't even know my own neighbours, No one can identify who you are on the street, no one can police you, you are free to do what you want, if you do drugs whos gonna see you, if you do anything haram who will care, you are raised as a loner in the west, most kids don't even have proper friends anymore, only online friends they play games all day with, Why have a wife or a girlfriend when you can just watch faaxishah online, that will replace your wife or girlfriend, take the human interaction aspect out of everything, why play real life games when you can play simulations without moving,
This atheistic hedonistic society is basically putting each man as his own "God", Everyone is in a market and gets to choose what they want to do, no one can tell them what to do, so as a society we are suffering and have to find poor substitutes to help people who suffer because of it.
The problem is, this market the west puts u in, is in reality just slavery, you will only realise that in retrospect though when everyone realise they sold their souls for some little enjoyment and ruined their dunya and akhirah, they end up becoming a slave to their desires thinking they were free
As you may know theirs even an epidemic of kids not even being able to communicate properly, in school, the kids are basically raised by tech at home, so they can't even communicate properly at young ages, look at this disconnect between them and their families, they should be spending time learning life skills from their families at a young age
Not to mention how the work in the west is basically forcing both parents to work in order to keep up their lifestyle, I mean partly it is to blame on the western mentality of materialism, but look at it, they work so much just to have a couple hours of enjoyment, by the time they finish work they are too old to do anything
Its a perpetual money making scheme for the elite and people who abuse the system, the rest of us are in some delusion constantly chasing something.
Islam would cure the west, unfortunately Muslims are more interested in copying the Western lifestyle instead of integrating the Islamic one which with the amount of resources in the west would allow us to do much more.
I have an idea that the more Muslim population increases in the West the more we will become like non-Muslims to the point where u won't be able to tell the difference between a Muslim and non-Muslim, we will fully leave our deen and adopt this disgusting lifestyle.