Humiliating Unconditional Surrender of Japan 1945

[SOMALI GENERAL]

Developing Somalia is crucial. Your Agriculture is something that is needed in Somalia so that we dont need to rely on foreign imports in case they decide to cut ties with us. Food independence as well as having Transportation systems such as trains and other factories is vital. Im working on Af Somali being able to take in Philosophical concepts and deep subjects. Eventually Af Somali will be Strong language that we enforce in Somalia and beyond

The trick to make Af-Somali a prestigious & useful language to use amongst ajnabis is to show the economic benefits to speaking Af-Somali. Similarly, many ajnabis are learning Chinese so that they can easily conduct business with the Chinese, some also want to learn it so they can indulge in Chinese culture, literature as well.

Economic power is essential to making a language prestigious & important. It would be glorious to have millions of L2 speakers of Af-Somali in foreign countries.

 

[Samaalic Era]

I have bought a book about Survivialism and how to survive in case of a nuclear war, a chemical attack,etc. And it is written in French..But I'll try to note what i will learn from this book and one day i'll teach to people in Somalia how to defend themselves.
We shouldn't be the lowest of the lower! We need to become an elite.

If i think if we become too powerful, we could be on the receiving end of a nuclear weapon. All types of knowledge will be needed

 

[Samaalic Era]

The trick to make Af-Somali a prestigious & useful language to use amongst ajnabis is to show the economic benefits to speaking Af-Somali. Similarly, many ajnabis are learning Chinese so that they can easily conduct business with the Chinese, some also want to learn it so they can indulge in Chinese culture, literature as well.

Economic power is essential to making a language prestigious & important. It would be glorious to have millions of L2 speakers of Af-Somali in foreign countries.

100%, Chinese is an extremely difficult language but somehow is flourishing due to the fact that you will be empolyed and have access to a high standard of living. Also we need to make original Somali Entertainment Industry to spread our influence

 

[A_A]

The Japanese were assholes. The US government should never apologize for nuking them. You’ll understand once you come across Japanese ultra nationalist. The most arrogant people on earth.

 

[Samaalic Era]

The Japanese were assholes. The US government should never apologize for nuking them. You’ll understand once you come across Japanese ultra nationalist. The most arrogant people on earth.

You have to put your people and Nation's interests before others even it means doing distasteful things

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

100%, Chinese is an extremely difficult language but somehow is flourishing due to the fact that you will be empolyed and have access to a high standard of living. Also we need to make original Somali Entertainment Industry to spread our influence

Another method to spreading Af-Somali is to encourage Somali settlements in foreign lands, best to start off in our local region. For example, if we encourage Somalis to settle in Madagascar in large numbers then over time when Somalis make up a sizeable portion of the total population they can then demand Af-Somali to be made an official language in Madagascar.

However, the strategy above is a long-term one.

 

[Samaalic Era]

Another method to spreading Af-Somali is to encourage Somali settlements in foreign lands, best to start off in our local region. For example, if we encourage Somalis to settle in Madagascar in large numbers then over time when Somalis make up a sizeable portion of the total population they can then demand Af-Somali to made an official language in Madagascar.

However, the strategy above is a long-term one.

Thats Similiar to what Britain did in Northern Ireland. The Settler Colonialism strategy is a classic and China is using that in Xinjang and Tibet. It does require alot of time but it pays off as long as the host country doesnt collaspe

 

[Samaalic Era]

Another method to spreading Af-Somali is to encourage Somali settlements in foreign lands, best to start off in our local region. For example, if we encourage Somalis to settle in Madagascar in large numbers then over time when Somalis make up a sizeable portion of the total population they can then demand Af-Somali to be made an official language in Madagascar.

However, the strategy above is a long-term one.

What strategy do you think we can employ to avoid a two front war against Ethiopia and Kenya?

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

What strategy do you think we can employ to avoid a two front war against Ethiopia and Kenya?

This is a difficult one tbh.

We could make a "temporary" treaty(only we would view it as temporary) with Kenya & initiate a population exchange with them. This treaty will essentially make Somalis respect the current boundaries with Kenya & keep Kenya "reassured" and out of the equation in the meantime.

After we neutralise Kenya, we can then turn our attention to Ethiopia & send them an ultimatum to return the Ogaden; if they refuse to do so then we declare War on them.

If we're victorious against Ethiopia then we can deal with Kenya afterwards & break the previous treaty & get the NFD back as well. Although, the West will likely be against us in a war with Kenya.
:siilaanyolaugh:

 

[A_A]

You have to put your people and Nation's interests before others even it means doing distasteful things

I understand that, but there is a line between national interest and general barbarism. The behavior of the imperial army was disgusting. Take Nanking, the city surrendered and many of inhabitants thought the Japanese would spare them. Nope, instead they killed and raped thousands. They treated POWs terribly, seriously look it up. Millions of people throught East and South East Asia died because of them. The main difference is that most Japanese haven’t been taught what really happened during WW2 and tend to be in denial. The Germans are taught what happened, their government doesn’t dare try to dispute whether are not the holocaust happened. Hirohito didn’t even go on trial, and they have a temple in Japan for war criminals. Imagine if there was a church in Germany were they made Hitler a saint.
Japan got away with what they did, they weren’t graceful and prideful warriors, they were disgusting undisciplined monsters. I have more respect for Nazi Germany than Imperial Japan. Wallahi China should go off on their ass.

 

[Yeeyi]

This is a difficult one tbh.

We could make a "temporary" treaty(only we would view it as temporary) with Kenya & initiate a population exchange with them. This treaty will essentially make Somalis respect the current boundaries with Kenya & keep Kenya "reassured" and out of the equation in the meantime.

After we neutralise Kenya, we can then turn our attention to Ethiopia & send them an ultimatum to return the Ogaden; if they refuse to do so then we declare War on them.

If we're victorious against Ethiopia then we can deal with Kenya afterwards & break the previous treaty & get the NFD back as well. Although, the West will likely be against us in a war with Kenya.
:siilaanyolaugh:

I don't know about the west being angry at us at Kenya war. If we destabilize the region (giving weapons and supporting independence seeking Swahilis) we could create a civil unrest which the NFD Somalis can take advantage of with the help of the new Somali government. I think the Kenyans would care more about the goldmine known as the coastal region more about a poor, segregated region. And we can justify it by holding election. If we proposed the Idea to the west and we win, they can't get angry at us cause it's the will of the people

 

[Samaalic Era]

I understand that, but there is a line between national interest and general barbarism. The behavior of the imperial army was disgusting. Take Nanking, the city surrendered and many of inhabitants thought the Japanese would spare them. Nope, instead they killed and raped thousands. They treated POWs terribly, seriously look it up. Millions of people throught East and South East Asia died because of them. The main difference is that most Japanese haven’t been taught what really happened during WW2 and tend to be in denial. The Germans are taught what happened, their government doesn’t dare try to dispute whether are not the holocaust happened. Hirohito didn’t even go on trial, and they have a temple in Japan for war criminals. Imagine if there was a church in Germany were they made Hitler a saint.
Japan got away with what they did, they weren’t graceful and prideful warriors, they were disgusting undisciplined monsters. I have more respect for Nazi Germany than Imperial Japan. Wallahi China should go off on their ass.

Its definitely messed up, however in war you have to go all the way. Showing mercy will be your downfall

 

[Samaalic Era]

I don't know about the west being angry at us at Kenya war. If we destabilize the region (giving weapons and supporting independence seeking Swahilis) we could create a civil unrest which the NFD Somalis can take advantage of with the help of the new Somali government. I think the Kenyans would care more about the goldmine known as the coastal region more about a poor, segregated region. And we can justify it by holding election. If we proposed the Idea to the west and we win, they can't get angry at us cause it's the will of the people

Thats a good strategy aswell. The problem could be that we get sanctioned by every country if we are found out and end like North Korea. I think @SOMALI GENERAL strategy of a quick war is more feasible as then we have access to Kenyan resources and and farmland which even under sanctions, is enough to keep us a flow and also have a gateway into central africa we can sell and get goods.

 

[Yeeyi]

Thats a good strategy aswell. The problem could be that we get sanctioned by every country if we are found out and end like North Korea. I think @SOMALI GENERAL strategy of a quick war is more feasible as then we have access to Kenyan resources and and farmland which even under sanctions, is enough to keep us a flow and also have a gateway into central africa we can sell and get goods.

There’s a lot of countries that support rebel groups, such as Iran and Saudi Arabia towards terrorist group, that don't get sanctioned. As long as we play our cards right and don't get exposed big time (which happens very rarely) we could get the whole of Somaliweyn without a scratch.
Anyways if we did the above plan, we wouldn't survive the sanction cause China and U.S don't want to see another superpower nation, and we need to trade with them

 

[Samaalic Era]

There’s a lot of countries that support rebel groups, such as Iran and Saudi Arabia towards terrorist group, that don't get sanctioned. As long as we play our cards right and don't get exposed big time (which happens very rarely) we could get the whole of Somaliweyn without a scratch.
Anyways if we did the above plan, we wouldn't survive the sanction cause China and U.S don't want to see another superpower nation, and we need to trade with them

You have a point. I think the west in general is more lenient with Iran and Saudi Arabia. It would be a tough call to make

 

[Yeeyi]

You have a point. I think the west in general is more lenient with Iran and Saudi Arabia. It would be a tough call to make

But the difference is that we made an election to get our land back (Kenya). I don't know if China would have liked that, since they are big invester towards Kenya, but the west would have respected it just as they respected the South Sudan election