HSM, the grestest Somali president?

I have been an observer of Somali politics since adolescence, I was never contaminated with tribalism so I believe I am as an objective of an observer as any outsider. Despite my tribal background, I think HSM is one of the most politically competent Somali presidents if not the most politically competent president ever.


First of all, we need to remember that this man was one of the people who founded the ICU which stabilised the south for a good amount of time before all of their work was disrupted by Abdullah yusuf Ahmed.

2. Him and Sheikh Shariff secured power and the trust of International community but alshabab turned on them even though these guys were mostly from outside the region (from Somaliland) and they had nothing to do with the success of the ICU.

3. After 2 years of fighting al shabab they finally kick them out of Mogadishu and development kicks off.

4. He becomes, president and the government forces advances outside of Mogadishu and for the first time in decades the government doesn't only have power over Mogadishu but outside of Mogadishu as well. He navigates his foreign policy without provoking any big country because he understands how fragile Somalia is.

5. He loses election and hand power peacefully to farmajo. Farmajo, a guy who didn't participate anyway shape or form in establishing that government or freeing Mogadishu. He does some good things like expanding the army but he inherited everything from HSM first term. He feeds off populism and take picture with a war criminal like Tukee and refuses to hand power peacefully almost causing a civil war in the process.

6. HSM comes back to power. Inheriting more friction from farmajo. He tries to repair that fraction peacefully. However; stubborn self centred politicians go against the collective interest like Deni in PL, Bixi in SL and Madobe In Jubaland.

7. HSM start to focus on these troublemaking regions because they are a bigger danger than Al shabab. By creating North Eastern State hitting to birds with one stone. Somaliland self sabotage by provoking China, he uses that against them. Puntland self sabotage by picking on Turkey he uses that against them. All while maintaining good relationships with their backers

8. He has the support of a segment of daarods up north. Hindered Somaliland aspiration for independence and weakened puntland. (Note that I am not supportive of all of that I merely suggesting he is achieving his objectives)

9. He signs an Oil deal with the turks which was halted by Farmajo's stubbornness who had the opportunity to sign it but refused based on a populist rather than pragmatic stance. He also has both Turkey and Egypt support (two competing nations). In addition to China's support. Somaliland and puntland geeljire mentality enhances his support from all of his allies.

All of these points made me think that this man could be Somalia's FDR and Ibrahim lincoln simultaneously. He is putting all of these chaotic people in their place while securing the support of competing international powers. His enemies live in fantasy and are blinded by their grandiostiy while he works to achieve his objectives. I really think a third term for that guy would be great for Somalia on the long run.
 
All of these points made me think that this man could be Somalia's FDR and Ibrahim lincoln simultaneously.
Exactly! You took the words right out of my mouth. I honestly think HSM is a genius. SNA collapsing and Xamar being surrounded is actually a chess move from our esteemed leader. Let them doubt him, it's better they underestimate his brilliance😅
 
Exactly! You took the words right out of my mouth. I honestly think HSM is a genius. SNA collapsing and Xamar being surrounded is actually a chess move from our esteemed leader. Let them doubt him, it's better they underestimate his brilliance😅
Is it collapsing though? Is xamamr being surrounded like you claim? The places Al shabab took from the government have been in government hand since 2022. Most of the advancements happend under HSM. One of the best ways to fight Gorilla insurgency is to let them insurgents centralise and not give the insurgents any chance to exhaust your resources.
 

Mckenzie

We star in movies NASA pay to watch
VIP
Farmaajo and Sharif were not well informed of global politics as well as HSM, who has done a great job getting international support for debt relief, reducing the weapons embargo and joining EAC.

But HSM's domestic policies are all geared towards a reelection. For as long as he keeps Xamar Opposition at bay while turning them against a potential alliance with Deni or Madoobe he may have a good chance. The Dir and Raxanwayn block are neutral to HSM who i believe is being very careful to not upset everyone at the same time.

Is it collapsing though? Is xamamr being surrounded like you claim? The places Al shabab took from the government have been in government hand since 2022. Most of the advancements happend under HSM. One of the best ways to fight Gorilla insurgency is to let them insurgents centralise and not give the insurgents any chance to exhaust your resources.

I've been telling people this for a long time. AS capturing a town is not always bad. It means you get to bulldoze a few hundred fighters every time. If you try to chase the rabbit it will duck and dive and you'll slip on the burrows and holes. Let the enemy come to you. HSM is waiting for arm shipments and possibly heavier weaponry. He also knows AS have infiltrated the government and the treasury. He is very calculcated, it takes a lot to come back to Power and declare a cold war on the same people that elected you (Deni, Madoobe, Sharif, Kheyre etc).
 
Is it collapsing though? Is xamamr being surrounded like you claim? The places Al shabab took from the government have been in government hand since 2022. Most of the advancements happend under HSM. One of the best ways to fight Gorilla insurgency is to let them insurgents centralise and not give the insurgents any chance to exhaust your resources.
Interesting strategy🤔

Shark Tank Writing GIF

Fight insurgents by letting them continue to take lands and strengthen supply lines, forcing you to retreat.
 
Farmaajo and Sharif were not well informed of global politics as well as HSM, who has done a great job getting international support for debt relief, reducing the weapons embargo and joining EAC.

But HSM's domestic policies are all geared towards a reelection. For as long as he keeps Xamar Opposition at bay while turning them against a potential alliance with Deni or Madoobe he may have a good chance. The Dir and Raxanwayn block are neutral to HSM who i believe is being very careful to not upset everyone at the same time.



I've been telling people this for a long time. AS capturing a town is not always bad. It means you get to bulldoze a few hundred fighters every time. If you try to chase the rabbit it will duck and dive and you'll slip on the burrows and holes. Let the enemy come to you. HSM is waiting for arm shipments and possibly heavier weaponry. He also knows AS have infiltrated the government and the treasury. He is very calculcated, it takes a lot to come back to Power and declare a cold war on the same people that elected you (Deni, Madoobe, Sharif, Kheyre etc).
Well said. Somalia was about to receive a large shipment of weapons but it was seized by Puntland. Tribalistic Puntlanders might think that this is a win for them but actually it's big blow to them. They messed with the NATO nation delivering weapons to an internationally recognised government fighting terrorism. Somaliland did an even more fatal mistake, they messed with China. HSM doesn't need to control anything up north he doesn't even need to send a single soldier their. Don't be surprised if Bosaso and Berbera are blockaded or even occupied by the Chinese and the Turks at the request of Somali government. Isaaq and MJ would be forced to the negotiation table sooner or later.
 
Last edited:
Interesting strategy🤔

Shark Tank Writing GIF

Fight insurgents by letting them continue to take lands and strengthen supply lines, forcing you to retreat.
That was the British strategy with Mohammed Abdullah hassan and the French strategy with Abdulqadar of Algeria. And what supply lines are you talking about? Just as they got into the city of Maaxas for example the government forces got out of the city CUTTING their supply line. Moreover; a lot of money and time was spent training the government soldiers so losing a single soldier is a huge deal. That's why a retreat is a good idea. Believe me HSM knows how to fight Gorilla insurgency. He fought one against the Ethiopians when you were living large in the west.
 

Caaro

I do something called "what I want"
2021 GRANDMASTER
VIP
Farmaajo and Sharif were not well informed of global politics as well as HSM, who has done a great job getting international support for debt relief, reducing the weapons embargo and joining EAC.

But HSM's domestic policies are all geared towards a reelection. For as long as he keeps Xamar Opposition at bay while turning them against a potential alliance with Deni or Madoobe he may have a good chance. The Dir and Raxanwayn block are neutral to HSM who i believe is being very careful to not upset everyone at the same time.



I've been telling people this for a long time. AS capturing a town is not always bad. It means you get to bulldoze a few hundred fighters every time. If you try to chase the rabbit it will duck and dive and you'll slip on the burrows and holes. Let the enemy come to you. HSM is waiting for arm shipments and possibly heavier weaponry. He also knows AS have infiltrated the government and the treasury. He is very calculcated, it takes a lot to come back to Power and declare a cold war on the same people that elected you (Deni, Madoobe, Sharif, Kheyre etc).
I dont know you and I don’t know HSM’s qabiil (aside from him being Hawiye)

but I have a feeling that you and him share the same clan.

i can deduce this simply from how you’re defending him and looking at everything he does from an optimistic light.

i don’t mean to attack you or insult you. But do you not find it a little bit of a coincidence that you agree with him so much and he just happens to be the same clan as you?

Again, I’m just assuming you guys share the same qabiil, maybe not the same sub-sub-sub-qabiil, but to some extent. And I am most likely correct.

i really hope you van ask yourself, why do you feel the need to defend a politician, a public servant. On the basis of his qabiil. Or do you genuinely believe he is a good politician looking wholely in the interest if somalia and the somali people. While doing it competently?

ask yourself, if he was from a different clan. Would you still have the same thoughts?

just trying to be real.
 

Caaro

I do something called "what I want"
2021 GRANDMASTER
VIP
I have been an observer of Somali politics since adolescence, I was never contaminated with tribalism so I believe I am as an objective of an observer as any outsider. Despite my tribal background, I think HSM is one of the most politically competent Somali presidents if not the most politically competent president ever.


First of all, we need to remember that this man was one of the people who founded the ICU which stabilised the south for a good amount of time before all of their work was disrupted by Abdullah yusuf Ahmed.

2. Him and Sheikh Shariff secured power and the trust of International community but alshabab turned on them even though these guys were mostly from outside the region (from Somaliland) and they had nothing to do with the success of the ICU.

3. After 2 years of fighting al shabab they finally kick them out of Mogadishu and development kicks off.

4. He becomes, president and the government forces advances outside of Mogadishu and for the first time in decades the government doesn't only have power over Mogadishu but outside of Mogadishu as well. He navigates his foreign policy without provoking any big country because he understands how fragile Somalia is.

5. He loses election and hand power peacefully to farmajo. Farmajo, a guy who didn't participate anyway shape or form in establishing that government or freeing Mogadishu. He does some good things like expanding the army but he inherited everything from HSM first term. He feeds off populism and take picture with a war criminal like Tukee and refuses to hand power peacefully almost causing a civil war in the process.

6. HSM comes back to power. Inheriting more friction from farmajo. He tries to repair that fraction peacefully. However; stubborn self centred politicians go against the collective interest like Deni in PL, Bixi in SL and Madobe In Jubaland.

7. HSM start to focus on these troublemaking regions because they are a bigger danger than Al shabab. By creating North Eastern State hitting to birds with one stone. Somaliland self sabotage by provoking China, he uses that against them. Puntland self sabotage by picking on Turkey he uses that against them. All while maintaining good relationships with their backers

8. He has the support of a segment of daarods up north. Hindered Somaliland aspiration for independence and weakened puntland. (Note that I am not supportive of all of that I merely suggesting he is achieving his objectives)

9. He signs an Oil deal with the turks which was halted by Farmajo's stubbornness who had the opportunity to sign it but refused based on a populist rather than pragmatic stance. He also has both Turkey and Egypt support (two competing nations). In addition to China's support. Somaliland and puntland geeljire mentality enhances his support from all of his allies.

All of these points made me think that this man could be Somalia's FDR and Ibrahim lincoln simultaneously. He is putting all of these chaotic people in their place while securing the support of competing international powers. His enemies live in fantasy and are blinded by their grandiostiy while he works to achieve his objectives. I really think a third term for that guy would be great for Somalia on the long run.
I can say the same to you. Refer to my previous post.
 
I dont know you and I don’t know HSM’s qabiil (aside from him being Hawiye)

but I have a feeling that you and him share the same clan.

i can deduce this simply from how you’re defending him and looking at everything he does from an optimistic light.

i don’t mean to attack you or insult you. But do you not find it a little bit of a coincidence that you agree with him so much and he just happens to be the same clan as you?

Again, I’m just assuming you guys share the same qabiil, maybe not the same sub-sub-sub-qabiil, but to some extent. And I am most likely correct.

i really hope you van ask yourself, why do you feel the need to defend a politician, a public servant. On the basis of his qabiil. Or do you genuinely believe he is a good politician looking wholely in the interest if somalia and the somali people. While doing it competently?

ask yourself, if he was from a different clan. Would you still have the same thoughts?

just trying to be real.
Walahi I am daarood and hawiyes destroyed my grandfather's villa in Xamar in 1991, they even called him and threatened him. I have nothing to do with Hawiya. I genuinely believe this guy is looking for the country's interest.
 
Is it collapsing though? Is xamamr being surrounded like you claim? The places Al shabab took from the government have been in government hand since 2022. Most of the advancements happend under HSM. One of the best ways to fight Gorilla insurgency is to let them insurgents centralise and not give the insurgents any chance to exhaust your resources.
HSM knew Mahas was gonna fall more than a week before it fell to shabaab, he also withheld supplies to xawaadle troops and they had to get supplies from cagjar 😂 The 2022 progress is literally all Macawisley hsm didnt do shit and sna isnt even a functional army under him

Not only does he intentionally allow Shabab to make progress but hes using the sna and turkish weapons against Jubaland, he also dissolved other comissions and councils which would hold him accountable

Even when you forget all this what will you say about him dissolving the Anti corruption comission as soon as he became president and then stealing millions from public funds
 

El Nino

Cabsi cabsi
VIP
HSM is definitely calculative man and acts swiftly whenever an opportunity presents to himself. He is a scumbag, but not an idiot. However, he is a far away from a patriot.

Well, there is one thing people need to note about him and the current world. He has presumably secured ”friendship” with the western world, especially USA, UN and their NGOs. The oppositions pleas to weaterners are falling on deaf ears, gaalada couldn’t care less. Especially these times, where they are are shutting foreign aid (bribe money).

Hsm has a free reign for now on how to deal with internal issues. He is focusing on re-election, which I don’t think will happen. Too many enemies and he doesn’t have a firm large support base. He doesn’t have enough MPs for re-election.
 
That was the British strategy with Mohammed Abdullah hassan and the French strategy with Abdulqadar of Algeria. And what supply lines are you talking about? Just as they got into the city of Maaxas for example the government forces got out of the city CUTTING their supply line. Moreover; a lot of money and time was spent training the government soldiers so losing a single soldier is a huge deal. That's why a retreat is a good idea. Believe me HSM knows how to fight Gorilla insurgency. He fought one against the Ethiopians when you were living large in the west.
It's not just maxaas buddy they captured 10 towns this year and u call that strategy?
 

Avalanche

Guul iyo Gobanimo
VIP
In order to earn the title of the best president ever, he needs to

1. Unite the leaders of the entire country.

He can hardly summon them to a meeting. Relations between HSM, Deni and Madoobe are still tense.

2. He needs to finalise the constitution.

This is one of the most difficult things to do. I doubt he will succeed because he has not achieved reconciliation.

3. Weaken Al Shabaab.

He did well at first with his war against the terrorists, but then they lost momentum. This allowed AS to regain the ground they had lost at the beginning.

He will probably not achieve any of this as he only has one year left of his term.
 

IKHALIIL

WW3 ENJOYER
Given how things are going in the country and the progress over the last few years, I’d say he’s definitely a contender. But we’ll have to wait and see how he finishes his term.
 

Trending

Latest posts

Top