How south did the Cushites go?

[The alchemist]

Yh but this is solely in the context of before the migration and creation of Modern day Swahili and Malagasy groups.

I mean can you believe that Reunion, Comoros, Seychelles and Mauritius were not inhabited until 16-17th Century.

All that I mentioned occurred some 2000 years ago. Somalis ran deep in those territories pretty early, and we've maintained most of it in presence, not political realities.

I don't know much about those island countries, to be honest.

 

[Daisybilaawe]

All that I mentioned occurred some 2000 years ago. Somalis ran deep in those territories pretty early, and we've maintained most of it in presence, not political realities.

I don't know much about those island countries, to be honest.

so you agree we could've taken all the blue in the map i showed you excluding the islands?

 

[Rayaale]

I often see claims of people both in this site and outside of it claim that Somalis without hinderance would've plowed through East Africa reaching Mozambique and making it all Somali-Owned and Somali-Controlled but how much of this is actually true?

The British stopped us and pushed us back, I believe in a few years we could have easily conquered them

 

[The alchemist]

so you agree we could've taken all the blue in the map i showed you excluding the islands?

Could have, would have, should have. You can, in theory, do a lot more. Not sure what the point is of discussing this.

 

[Daisybilaawe]

The British stopped us and pushed us back, I believe in a few years we could have easily conquered them

Yh I read the reports for that but then others say that the British fabricated it all to justify their own occupation of east africa to save them from the "Somalis".

 

[NidarNidar]

Dem Tsete fly aks don’t like negroes without mass fast twitch fibres.

What if you're in the middle ball park like me, with a balanced profile

 

[Midas]

I don't really think there could have been a somali empire in the rest of easy Africa simply because precolmial east africa had a bad environment. I mean think about how the swahili towns where on the coast for a millenia and never once developed into a land empire or kingdom. If the geography had allowed for it there definitely would have been an empire in east africa especially considering how it's right on the Indian Ocean. But the fact one never emerged is I think very telling. Also the fact that swahili didn't even becoming a written language till the last 2-3 centuries after the arrival of omanis is just more evidence

 

[Daisybilaawe]

I don't really think there could have been a somali empire in the rest of easy Africa simply because precolmial east africa had a bad environment. I mean think about how the swahili towns where on the coast for a millenia and never once developed into a land empire or kingdom. If the geography had allowed for it there definitely would have been an empire in east africa especially considering how it's right on the Indian Ocean. But the fact one never emerged is I think very telling. Also the fact that swahili didn't even becoming a written language till the last 2-3 centuries after the arrival of omanis is just more evidence

Wasn't it a Mixture of the Omanis themselves with the Bantus and a bit of the Persians that created Swahili in the first place or nah?

 

[Daisybilaawe]

Could have, would have, should have. You can, in theory, do a lot more. Not sure what the point is of discussing this.

The point is that it helps me cope with the fact that somalia is a divided failed state today, it's always good to sometimes daydream about a different timeline and Somaliweyn more powerful spreading all over East Africa and a World Superpower.

 

[The alchemist]

The point is that it helps me cope with the fact that somalia is a divided failed state today, it's always good to sometimes daydream about a different timeline and Somaliweyn more powerful spreading all over East Africa and a World Superpower.

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You should find the good of today and stop daydreaming. It can become maladaptive or is a symptom of it.

Also, a better indicator of success is not size and empire but deen, well-being, health, and culture.

There are many good highs in our direct history where you don't need hypotheticals to satisfy greatness.

The hypotheticals you should have are how to build a better future. It starts with you.

 

[Xareen]

Could have, would have, should have. You can, in theory, do a lot more. Not sure what the point is of discussing this.

Would make for a good fantasy manga.

Somali history freak, avid Somalispot Culture-History poaster, big Romanophile on the side, super ethnonationalist, wishes things were better.

He's at his desk lurking, wishing Somalis 2300 years ago decided to go Mongolian on Africa. He goes to sleep and wakes up as proto-Barbar, son of some semi-important city-state chief, at war with brotherly city-states. Uses his vast knowledge to first unite city-states and pastoral tribes and then conquer in whichever direction. South would be hardest to work with but proto-Maasai-Datoog types would be cool to war against; going north would be super cool, conquering a budding Aksum and into Meroe and soon enough Alexander. Maybe make it 2000ybp so big enemy at end of series would be Rome in Egypt.

Got carried away. Literally made him a self-insert. Reckon I'd be able to do it.