History of the world civilizations

[Menelik III]

Glory to the kings of Aksum

 

[Apollo]

Favorite civilizations:

Ancient Rome
Ancient China
Italian city states (Renaissance)
British Empire
USA
Soviet Union

 

[Menelik III]

I would say the Indus Valley civilization is my favorite (not counting etp). They had epic wars and stories.

 

[waranlee]

My favorite in order of time would be, the Ancient Egyptians, Greek and Romans, Persians, Ummayad Caliphate, Ottoman Empire, Mughals of India, and the damned British. Those were the most interesting to me.

 

[--Ajakis Lax Max--]

very inaccurate video

 

[Menelik III]

very inaccurate video

How so?

 

[Kezira]

Aksum area stretched all the way to northern Dir lands (Gadabursi and Issa) the artifacts still found today in the area are proof of this fact we were part of this great empire. We are Abysinnian in origin.

 

[Grant]

Aksum area stretched all the way to northern Dir lands (Gadabursi and Issa) the artifacts still found today in the area are proof of this fact we were part of this great empire. We are Abysinnian in origin.

The Cisse and Gadabursi are T haplotype, which is typically from the northern Mediterranean Basin to the Zagros mountains in Iran. They are not B1b1b, which came from the Sudan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_T_(mtDNA)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_T-M184

"T1 is the most common descent of T-M184 haplogroup, being the lineage of more than 95% of all Eurasian T-M184 members. One of their descent lineages is found in high frequencies among northern Somali Clans. However, it appears to have originated somewhere around the northern Mediterranean Basin, perhaps somewhere between Greece to the Zagros mountains.

The basal subclade, T1* appears to have expanded, probably from northeastern Anatolia, into the Levant at least, with the Pre-Pottery Neolithic B culture (PPNB). Although it is rare in modern populations, T1* has been found in a Berber individual from Tunisia, a male in Syria, and one sequence among ethnic Macedonians in Macedonia.[2][20][21]"

Africa
Population Language Location Members/Sample size Percentage Source
Notes
Somalis (Dir clan) Somali (East Cushitic) Djibouti 24/24 100% [17] Dir Somali clan members in Djibouti. Also, T1a-M70 has been found in only 1 sample belonging to a member of the Hawiye clan (1/1), and in 0/9 (0%) samples belonging to the Isaaq clan.
Somalis (Dire Dawa) Somali (East Cushitic) Dire Dawa 14/17 82.4% [16] Dire Dawa Somalis.

 

[Kezira]

The Cisse and Gadabursi are T haplotype, which is typically from the northern Mediterranean Basin to the Zagros mountains in Iran. They are not B1b1b, which came from the Sudan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_T_(mtDNA)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_T-M184

"T1 is the most common descent of T-M184 haplogroup, being the lineage of more than 95% of all Eurasian T-M184 members. One of their descent lineages is found in high frequencies among northern Somali Clans. However, it appears to have originated somewhere around the northern Mediterranean Basin, perhaps somewhere between Greece to the Zagros mountains.

The basal subclade, T1* appears to have expanded, probably from northeastern Anatolia, into the Levant at least, with the Pre-Pottery Neolithic B culture (PPNB). Although it is rare in modern populations, T1* has been found in a Berber individual from Tunisia, a male in Syria, and one sequence among ethnic Macedonians in Macedonia.[2][20][21]"

Africa
Population Language Location Members/Sample size Percentage Source
Notes
Somalis (Dir clan) Somali (East Cushitic) Djibouti 24/24 100% [17] Dir Somali clan members in Djibouti. Also, T1a-M70 has been found in only 1 sample belonging to a member of the Hawiye clan (1/1), and in 0/9 (0%) samples belonging to the Isaaq clan.
Somalis (Dire Dawa) Somali (East Cushitic) Dire Dawa 14/17 82.4% [16] Dire Dawa Somalis.

Thank you for this refreshing information

 

[Apollo]

Thank you for this refreshing information

Grant is twisting scientific facts and making false claims.

Haplogroup T in the Dir is not from the Mideast. It is just another variant among the Cushitic lineages. All Cushitic populations have T, the frequencies merely changes due to chance and bottlenecks.

 

[Kezira]

Grant is twisting scientific facts and making false claims.

Haplogroup T in the Dir is not from the Mideast, it is just another variant among the Cushitic lineages.

Makes sense

 

[Apollo]

Hmm.. checked out the recent wiki page on T and apparently they have done a lot of work on the subclades:

 

[Grant]

Grant is twisting scientific facts and making false claims.

Haplogroup T in the Dir is not from the Mideast. It is just another variant among the Cushitic lineages. All Cushitic populations have T, the frequencies merely changes due to chance and bottlenecks.

Not true. The Rendille have no T. The Isaaq and Hawiyya are B1b1b with very low levels of T. The Cisse and Gadabursi levels are too high to have any significant relationship to the Cushites. 82-100% T!

On your map, you see all that Red Sea and Arabian peninsula stuff to the north, and no T to the south? There is some T in the ancient E1b1b strain, but this isn't it.

 

[ethan bradberry]

Not true. The Rendille have no T. The Isaaq and Hawiyya are B1b1b with very low levels of T. The Cisse and Gadabursi levels are too high to have any significant relationship to the Cushites. 82-100% T!

Garhajis is also mostly T

 

[Grant]

Garhajis is also mostly T

Which of the Habars are for sure E?

 

[ethan bradberry]

Which of the Habars are for sure E?

Habar awal and habar jeclo

 

[Grant]

Habar awal and habar jeclo

What are the HY?

 

[ethan bradberry]

What are the HY?

Subclan of garhajis. Habar yonis and cidegale makeup garhajis habar yonis is hablogroup t

 

[Grant]

Subclan of garhajis. Habar yonis and cidegale makeup garhajis habar yonis is hablogroup t

What do you make of the difference in ethnicity?

 

[ethan bradberry]

What do you make of the difference in ethnicity?

Dir and garhajis is mostly T. Rest of isaaqs and other clans are mostly e1b1b1 (except some warsangeli who have hablogroup j)