Heaven and Heavens and sky is not the same thing

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  1. MuslimManMe

    MuslimManMe

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    Heaven or paradise is jannah...or the hidden gardens that Is outside of the realm of creation...

    Heavens (samawat) is the 7 concentric dimensions that comprise existence....the first one (and Allah knows best ) is this known universe and everything that it includes...the size of the first dimension to the second is the size of a ring to a desert and the comparison is like that for each proceeding level...when the commands come down, they come down to angels that are in various places in that concentric circle and they come down and bring it forth and bring it fortj...

    The human beings and the jinns for all their creativity and exploration cannot pass the first heavenbecause it's gates are imperceptible to them....in a sense, you could go right past its gates and not even realize you went past it...we have not even come close to doing that
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    The only time we can cross the boundaries of the heavens is in our dreams and this is a favor from the most high. The majority of people however due to heedless Ness (not praying not believing not sleeping with whudu) remain in the first heaven when they sleep....the near ones are brought closer when they sleep because Allah takes the souls at the time of sleep...depending on how heedful a person is and the mercy of Allah the dream is when a person can see mysteries of the unseen such as the coming down of commands the presence of the devils and the angels

    Finally , remember that Jannah is wider than all of the 7 heavens put together and that is an unfathomable thought...it is essentially a limitless place of bounty..jannah is alive in the sense that it produces and it produces that which pleases more aND more by the second

    "Faces that day will be glowing. Upon their lord gazing"

    "Race to forgiveness and a a garden that is as wide as the heavens and earth"

    (Sahih International)
    O company of jinn and mankind, if you are able to pass beyond the regions of the heavens and the earth, then pass. You will not pass except by authority [from Allah ].

    -Sura Ar-Rahman, Ayah 33
     
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  2. Fang4

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    Heaven is the sky
    Paradise is jannah.
     
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  3. MuslimManMe

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    Sama is the sky
    Samawat is heavens
    Jannah Is paradise
     
  4. Disappointed

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    In the Quran Allah said that 1 day for him is like one thousand years for us. If Allah made the heavens and the earth in seven days does that mean that the whole universe was made within seven thousand years?
     
  5. MuslimManMe

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    It means time is nothing to Allah

    Watch this

    (Sahih International)
    The angels and the Spirit will ascend to Him during a Day the extent of which is fifty thousand years.

    -Sura Al-Ma'arij, Ayah 4

    (Sahih International)
    And they urge you to hasten the punishment. But Allah will never fail in His promise. And indeed, a day with your Lord is like a thousand years of those which you count.

    -Sura Al-Hajj, Ayah 47

    (Sahih International)
    And Our command is but one, like a glance of the eye.

    -Sura Al-Qamar, Ayah 50

    (Sahih International)
    Or [consider such an example] as the one who passed by a township which had fallen into ruin. He said, "How will Allah bring this to life after its death?" So Allah caused him to die for a hundred years; then He revived him. He said, "How long have you remained?" The man said, "I have remained a day or part of a day." He said, "Rather, you have remained one hundred years. Look at your food and your drink; it has not changed with time. And look at your donkey; and We will make you a sign for the people. And look at the bones [of this donkey] - how We raise them and then We cover them with flesh." And when it became clear to him, he said, "I know that Allah is over all things competent."

    -Sura Al-Baqarah, Ayah 259


    After 309 years look at Ashabil kaHf
    (Sahih International)
    And similarly, We awakened them that they might question one another. Said a speaker from among them, "How long have you remained [here]?" They said, "We have remained a day or part of a day." They said, "Your Lord is most knowing of how long you remained. So send one of you with this silver coin of yours to the city and let him look to which is the best of food and bring you provision from it and let him be cautious. And let no one be aware of you.

    -Sura Al-Kahf, Ayah 19


    After eons in the grave look at what people say
    (Sahih International)
    They will say, "We remained a day or part of a day; ask those who enumerate."

    -Sura Al-Mu'minun, Ayah 113
     
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  6. kickz

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    Yea, its unfortunate that the translations for Samaa(sky) is heaven, while Jannah or Paradise can also be called Heaven. This confused me for a bit when reading translations.
     
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  7. Yaquub

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    Why are there so many hidden realms out there? i want to explore them all. Where is dhul kharnain's iron wall? or dajjal's island or iblis's throne on the water.


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