Hamza Cabdi Barre Debunks The Kacaan Government

What destroyed Somalia was the kacaan. Dictator Siad Barre against his Kacaan orphans called clan militias who destroyed Somalia. All the warlords who took up arms against Siad barre were his former pupils
 

mohamedismail

Reewin. Lixda Gobol ee Maayland unii leh!
He has a valid point. If the kacaan government was so "great" as people claim, why did it collapse and why did the people have a civil war for 30+. Why are we unable to build a government till today.
 

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mohamedismail

Reewin. Lixda Gobol ee Maayland unii leh!
32 years later still running from and avoiding the truth.
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Divided Somalia >>> Somalia with a Marehan president. Id rather Somalia be in it's current state then for it to be stable with a Marehan president.

Incoming all the Marehans who will support the kacaan even though it collapsed 30+ years ago. Y'all need to move on seriously.
 

Kizaru

Cast in the name of God Ye not Guilty
Somalia had the foundations and legs snapped because of greedy dicators and self absorbed clowns who targetted random somalis. The parasite that took advantage was qabil and the al shabab terrorists. Now people hate each other on the basis of history and grievances which, now with the internet and social media, have grown to uncontrollable legnths.

All we need is like minded people, youth and gownups to actually see the real picture. We will condemn everything and move forward. Anyone who uses qabil as a means to influence themselves socially and financially will be seen as the cadow of the somali people
 
Divided Somalia >>> Somalia with a Marehan president. Id rather Somalia be in it's current state then for it to be stable with a Marehan president.

Incoming all the Marehans who will support the kacaan even though it collapsed 30+ years ago. Y'all need to move on seriously.
I am not MX you yourself who is Somali Bantu could become president and I don’t give a rats ass who becomes president of Somalia a say wallahi who doesn’t speak a word of af Somali could be prez, all that matters is stability and prosperity not being the gypsies of Africa. He talked about all the governments so far in Somalia not just the military dictatorship watch the whole video on YouTube.
 

Kizaru

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Divided Somalia >>> Somalia with a Marehan president. Id rather Somalia be in it's current state then for it to be stable with a Marehan president.

Incoming all the Marehans who will support the kacaan even though it collapsed 30+ years ago. Y'all need to move on seriously.
This really sets us back. You mean the old farts and parasites which attack random somalis. It woudnt really be fair to blame a somali from that clan. I would blame the odeys in power.
 

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we have majority of country enslaved by shabab and 3rd world African mercenaries. Kacaan maintained peace and country was safe doubt anything close to it will happen in our lifetime. Only thing good about its collapse was being able to move to west and away from Somalia. Chaos and no centralization is somalias natural state
 

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Divided Somalia >>> Somalia with a Marehan president. Id rather Somalia be in it's current state then for it to be stable with a Marehan president.
Shit way of looking at things. How about judge a leader by his credentials and abilities. If you can't separate people who tangentially shared blood with Barre and the regime then you have some work to do. The aim should be anyone who had vision and burning passion for our nation should be our leader. What his background is matters little. But if you would rather live in squalor for another 30 years, then so be it.
 

mohamedismail

Reewin. Lixda Gobol ee Maayland unii leh!
Shit way of looking at things. How about judge a leader by his credentials and abilities. If you can't separate people who tangentially shared blood with Barre and the regime then you have some work to do. The aim should be anyone who had vision and burning passion for our nation should be our leader. What his background is matters little. But if you would rather live in squalor for another 30 years, then so be it.
Marehan have had the opportunity to rule for 26 years combined. One ruler was a dictator who spiraled the country into the current mess. The second one wanted to become a dictator like the previous president and in pursuit of that nearly put us in another civil war.

I think that within itself should be a warning to the Somali public that this clan isn't to trusted with the presidency position. Unless we are looking to go into another dictatorship where Daaroods and Marehans are favoured over other clans and potentially another 30 year civil war.

I personally could never respect or support the kacaan. I won't deny it had elements of good. But I will never forget the marginalisation and lack of representation my fellow clansmen (Reewin) endured during the 21 year rule of the kacaan. It went to the extreme of reewins being denied jobs due to speaking Af Maay and not being proficient in Af Maxaa.
 

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Marehan have had the opportunity to rule for 26 years combined. One ruler was a dictator who spiraled the country into the current mess. The second one wanted to become a dictator like the previous president and in pursuit of that nearly put us in another civil war.

I think that within itself should be a warning to the Somali public that this clan isn't to trusted with the presidency position. Unless we are looking to go into another dictatorship where Daaroods and Marehans are favoured over other clans and potentially another 30 year civil war.

I personally could never respect or support the kacaan. I won't deny it had elements of good. But I will never forget the marginalisation and lack of representation my fellow clansmen (Reewin) endured during the 21 year rule of the kacaan. It went to the extreme of reewins being denied jobs due to speaking Af Maay and not being proficient in Af Maxaa.
There is not clan that has proven itself worthy of anything in my opinion of leading the nation. They're all crooks and power hungry fools that learned little to nothing from the past 30 years.

We're all seem to have a herd mentality where we must defend our leaders based on blood ties. The regime of the past was horrible and while some have rose tinted glasses regarding it, it's no doubt that it's the reason we're here. However dictating people on actions of others is a foolish method of judging leadership.

Somali politics needs to evolve past the shadow of Kacaan and be a meritocracy otherwise we'll be trapped in this endless cycle. I can't take another 30 years of this, I don't want to be a old man reading up about clan political conflict every. other day.
 

Bazed

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f*ck the old regime. f*ck the warlords that came after and f*ck the untrustworthy politicians we have now. When are we going to get our shit together? Hopefully in my lifetime.
 
Everything he said is the truth. We inherited a "country" from colonialism but choose not to correct the complaints coming from different parts of the country. We then had a dictator and the rest is history. Of course we see things more clearly in hindsight, but my hope is that we correct our past errors in our pursuit for a united country.
 
a somalia that is run on clan lines will never be wealthy nor will it be safe

last hope was ICU

well have to wait for another more determined ICU like organisation that isnt shitty commanded

if this fails then well wait again... and again...

until when the final unifying organisation crushes all major clans in battle and detains their elders utterly humilating the laandheers only then through humility and the fear of the gun can we begin our destiny.



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Nin123

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we have majority of country enslaved by shabab and 3rd world African mercenaries. Kacaan maintained peace and country was safe doubt anything close to it will happen in our lifetime. Only thing good about its collapse was being able to move to west and away from Somalia. Chaos and no centralization is somalias natural state
You mean southern Somalis enslaved by Al shabaab.
 

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