Guardian exclusive: Somaliland president says recognition of state ‘on the horizon’ following Trump talks

[Itsnotthateasy]

Exclusive: Somaliland president says recognition of state ‘on the horizon’ following Trump talks

The breakaway territory’s independence has never been internationally recognised. Insiders say recent US overtures are encouraging – but the consequences could be inflammatory in the tinderbox region

www.theguardian.com

Abdullahi revealed that US military officials, including the Horn of Africa’s most senior officer, have recently visited Hargeisa. Another Washington delegation is expected to “evaluate the asset [Berbera]”.

“We are a partner in security. We are a partner in counter-terrorism. We are a partner in safe marine routes for world trade,” says Abdullahi, who was sworn in as president five months ago. In that time, he says, the US ambassador to Somalia has visited him three times.

Sources indicate that elements of the Trump team want to drop the US’s longstanding “one Somalia” policy. Ditching support for Somalia’s weak central government would pave the way to officially recognise Somaliland.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Exclusive: Somaliland president says recognition of state ‘on the horizon’ following Trump talks

The breakaway territory’s independence has never been internationally recognised. Insiders say recent US overtures are encouraging – but the consequences could be inflammatory in the tinderbox region

www.theguardian.com

Somaliland recognition can only come from Somalia not outside it, it's the whole UN world order system for the globe, Donald Trump a nation inside of it has no relevancy legally.

UN jurisdiction won't allow more break away nations it has terrible consequences for other member states. What's next China JI recognised Texas. What is great about the super powers no-one fucks with the UN rule of law or the seas, air, borders could all just start going into ww3.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Exclusive: Somaliland president says recognition of state ‘on the horizon’ following Trump talks

The breakaway territory’s independence has never been internationally recognised. Insiders say recent US overtures are encouraging – but the consequences could be inflammatory in the tinderbox region

www.theguardian.com

These SL recognition is on its way articles(year after year for 30 years) U posting may start being censored out as fake news here to keep the forum factual. Media reports inconsistent with global legal system is a form of fitnah even according to Islam.

 

[novanova]

It’s gonna happen soon… Donald Trumps cats niece hinted at it on tiktok.

 

[Sigmundd]

Same old news, I actually pretty much gave up in Somaliland gaining independence, we gotta move on from this. I can't lie.

 

[peterpeter]

icl somalia needs to let go, if after 34 years youre still a hellhole let people go man

 

[NordicSomali]

Good for them.

 

[Riftvalley]

Liberal Zionist propaganda.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Three facts:

1. It cost Somaliland ~$1.5 million per day to fight SSC-Khatumo.
2. The land inhabited by Harti woqoyi is ~40% of the total land area of woqoyi.
3. Harti woqoyi have a TFR of ~7.8, ~50% higher than Isaaq TFR at 5.3.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Three facts:

1. It cost Somaliland ~$1.5 million per day to fight SSC-Khatumo.
2. The land inhabited by Harti woqoyi is ~40% of the total land area of woqoyi.
3. Harti woqoyi have a TFR of ~7.8, ~50% higher than Isaaq TFR at 5.3.

War Isaaq sxb dad badan ma aha dhulka ay degan yihin ayaa ka markati furaya, its a tiny land holding meaning a weak clan or else it would be holding much more land for its livestock needs not retreating to triangles(the size of qandala)meaning a low livestock need.

As for Hargeisa alot of Hartis went there and observed the flow rate of its major road, electricity plant, and density, it's just urban sprawl and low population count. Bosaso is officially known as Second largest city in Somalia only Hamar is larger.

Their also so minimal in the rural footprint side also as Ogaden livestock dominates their port not Isaaq as their fully settled into towns 95%.

A low presence footprint in rural areas when Somalia is estimated as 60 to 80% rural is quite scary for Isaaq that's like an 8 million population for 4 million urbanites and the GDP data supports that conclusion as the rural economy is the lifeline of govt revenues( wa isha ugu wayn dhaqaalaha meaning their majority not settled towns.

 

[MaliMohamed]

Finally

 

[Karim]

Egal said the same thing
Riyale said the same thing
Silanyo said the same thing
Biihi said the same thing... And NOW
Irro is saying the same thing.

34 years of experience in waiting.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Egal said the same thing
Riyale said the same thing
Silanyo said the same thing
Biihi said the same thing... And NOW
Irro is saying the same thing.

34 years of experience in waiting.

Let them be in their delusion as Somali Region entrenches the livestock ban on Berbera(reducing its govt revenue to just hargeisa local rates), While Harti see this beast falling apart and calculating the opportunity for the sacking of Burco and Hargeisa thru Harti and DDS coordination and discussing how those land spoils can be divided islamically. It has to be done is my view now, defense posture isn't working as they manuevere like rats a strong ka hor tag prevention assault on those town can lead to 30 years of Isaaq either submitting to Harti Demands to demobilise and only given police powers and not military and Khatumo will handle SL armed security function and Khatumos.

I believe an America posture of an offensive on enemy clan lands as they do in foreign countries is a better posture before it arrives again at your doorstep again, it's easier to manage to ensure long term success and peace

 

[Karim]

Let them be in their delusion as Somali Region entrenches the livestock ban on Berbera(reducing its govt revenue to just hargeisa local rates), While Harti see this beast falling apart and calculating the opportunity for the sacking of Burco and Hargeisa thru Harti and DDS coordination and discussing how those land spoils can be divided islamically. It has to be done is my view now, defense posture isn't working as they manuevere like rats a strong ka hor tag prevention assault on those town can lead to 30 years of Isaaq either submitting to Harti Demands to demobilise and only given police powers and not military and Khatumo will handle SL armed security function and Khatumos.

I believe an America posture of an offensive on enemy clan lands as they do in foreign countries is a better posture before it arrives again at your doorstep again, it's easier to manage to ensure long term success and peace

I'm not actually into "subduing" or "sacking" Isaaq towns, that's not a sensible or even Islamic thing to do, not to mention Khaatumo is a loose cannon and most likely will always oppose Puntland policies regarding its dealings with the FGS. Right now they're blatantly supporting HSM's plan to dismantle JL, his sham elections and his constitution. There's no HARTI card here bro, that name has little value if we cannot agree on who's the enemy and who's not.

I would say I wholeheartedly support diplomatic and economical normalisation between PL and SL. We'll need the Dir votes the next election as well.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I'm not actually into "subduing" or "sacking" Isaaq towns, that's not a sensible or even Islamic thing to do, not to mention Khaatumo is a loose cannon and most likely will always oppose Puntland policies regarding its dealings with the FGS. Right now they're blatantly supporting HSM's plan to dismantle JL, his sham elections and his constitution. There's no HARTI card here bro, that name has little value if we cannot agree on who's the enemy and who's not.

I would say I wholeheartedly support diplomatic and economical normalisation between PL and SL. We'll need the Dir votes the next election as well.

Yeah I know SSC has been brainwashed and infected by Isaaq mothers but worse yet more by Ogaden during Sayidka era and even after baharsame and qayad war, it was jigjiga who hosted them and it was after this event Khatumo was born(definitely a dds influenced govt) and I doubt they would be suicidal to interfere in JL harm due to Ogadens in Somali region.

As for Isaaq yeah I know majority of puntites do not want SL to fall or be harmed, i know I'm in the minority to deal with them offensively in their towns and not let be just another operation but a final solution. We can't let the enemy retreat and rebuild all the time due Islamic morality that's no sense either plus it's not even an Islamic thing the issue it's the PL culture since 91 that doesn't allow any PL forces to conduct any offensives on any clan territories outside its jurisdiction post 91. It's a weird defense only army even if it can be shown countless times the enemy just rebuilds and comes back. The issue is our defense posture is known by the enemy and they take advantage saying we will come till.yowmul qiyaama cause they know u ain't making a move on his territory and disarming him or expulsion.

 

[Garaad Awal]

Cirro is the new Siilanyo but autistic. Nothing he says should be taken seriously

 

[Garaad Awal]

Yeah I know SSC has been brainwashed and infected by Isaaq mothers but worse yet more by Ogaden during Sayidka era and even after baharsame and qayad war, it was jigjiga who hosted them and it was after this event Khatumo was born(definitely a dds influenced govt) and I doubt they would be suicidal to interfere in JL harm due to Ogadens in Somali region.

As for Isaaq yeah I know majority of puntites do not want SL to fall or be harmed, i know I'm in the minority to deal with them offensively in their towns and not let be just another operation but a final solution. We can't let the enemy retreat and rebuild all the time due Islamic morality that's no sense either plus it's not even an Islamic thing the issue it's the PL culture since 91 that doesn't allow any PL forces to conduct any offensives on any clan territories outside its jurisdiction post 91. It's a weird defense only army even if it can be shown countless times the enemy just rebuilds and comes back. The issue is our defense posture is known by the enemy and they take advantage saying we will come till.yowmul qiyaama cause they know u ain't making a move on his territory and disarming him or expulsion.

I hope to see you leave your mental asylum in Australian to fight in these “Isaaq” towns

 

[The truth seeker]

The guardian is the worst western newspaper wouldn’t take what they say seriously