Grizzly Man.

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Grizzly man is classic case of anthropomorphisizing wild animals gone wrong. This man called himself the bear whisperer. Too bad he had to learn the hard way that animals are not humans..




 

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I feel bad for him but.... he was trying to be a bear!!!! a man is not a woman, a woman is not a man, a human is not a bear. people need Islam, they lack sense in their lives and then they end up going down these strange kinds of roads.
 
I re-watched that documentary maybe half a year ago. People have to stop thinking animals are something beyond their nature. It's wishful thinking.

The messed up thing is that the woman got killed, too. In the documentary, it was mentioned she wanted to get out of there the days before they got eaten. She stuck with him when she could have run since the grizzly man tried to buy some time while getting eaten.

The guy had this hippie euphoric response to the question of getting eaten. I recall him saying it in a positive light. To me, that is a perversion.

Even people who work with those animals professionally say that messing around with their territory makes these animals more problematic since they can get overly used to human presence, which increases potential attacks. Normally, a bear would avoid a human from a long distance. I agree with this argument. You're violating how the bears live for no reason other than some selfish obsession.

He anthropomorphized the bears and thought he was bear-like -- that he could understand them on an instinctual level, in truth just making up interpretations of whatever he wanted out from whatever bear things they did. Two completely wrong things. He did learn some meaningful readings of the tendencies of the bears, though, of course, but I think he used that to just cross lines and push things extra; he claimed he loved them but never respected their space because in his mind he was one of them.

You know, I think you can have an interesting perspective from looking at it, knowing the documentary and the life of Timothy. I think it was a bizarre case of escapism. Tantamount to an addiction. Trying to run away from civilization and push your luck living amidst dangerous adrenaline and stress-inducing animals.

Normally, nature is a good escape. It's a healthy one. But that was the extreme version that really probably gave him something worse than the life he lived in California that he ran away from. When does an escape become another fix to a bad coping mechanism because it provides a better excuse? It's a reasonable question. If you go from one extreme doing crime and drugs (not saying he did), and then on the other you provoke bears standing in front of them, practically poking their predatory nature. That low-risk assessment behavior, that recklessness, means you haven't healed your inner problem. Oftentimes people use healthy language tropes and superficial zen hippie eco-concern nonsense to justify their own bullshit instead of dealing with core issues. Mainly Westerners, lol.

People would rather stand in front of wild bears instead of confronting their inner problems. That's crazy.:dead:

The director did a great job at the end potentially showing the bear that ate them, revealing a distracted animal just concerned for the next meal, indifferent to everything else.

Overall, my favorite part is the foxes that pop up. Not going to lie, the way he befriended them was wholesome.
 

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My kind of spooky stories.

Grizzly man is classic case of anthropomorphisizing wild animals gone wrong. This man called himself the bear whisperer. Too bad he had to learn the hard way that animals are not humans..






I remember reading about this when it happened. Poor girlfriend, she jinxed it. She was deathly afraid of the bears- her crazy bf literally forced her to the camp that day not knowing it was meant for them to die together. Brutal
 

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I re-watched that documentary maybe half a year ago. People have to stop thinking animals are something beyond their nature. It's wishful thinking.

The messed up thing is that the woman got killed, too. In the documentary, it was mentioned she wanted to get out of there the days before they got eaten. She stuck with him when she could have run since the grizzly man tried to buy some time while getting eaten.

The guy had this hippie euphoric response to the question of getting eaten. I recall him saying it in a positive light. To me, that is a perversion.

Even people who work with those animals professionally say that messing around with their territory makes these animals more problematic since they can get overly used to human presence, which increases potential attacks. Normally, a bear would avoid a human from a long distance. I agree with this argument. You're violating how the bears live for no reason other than some selfish obsession.

There's this phenomenon in psychology called the optimism bias. People mostly disregard bad things happening to them. Unfortunately for Timothy, he got bolder with his interactions with the bears and started getting close to even the mama bears (most dangerous group) and play with the cubs.

Professionals and wildlife experts do not interact with animals beyond what is necessary.
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He anthropomorphized the bears and thought he was bear-like -- that he could understand them on an instinctual level, in truth just making up interpretations of whatever he wanted out from whatever bear things they did. Two completely wrong things. He did learn some meaningful readings of the tendencies of the bears, though, of course, but I think he used that to just cross lines and push things extra; he claimed he loved them but never respected their space because in his mind he was one of them.

You know, I think you can have an interesting perspective from looking at it, knowing the documentary and the life of Timothy. I think it was a bizarre case of escapism. Tantamount to an addiction. Trying to run away from civilization and push your luck living amidst dangerous adrenaline and stress-inducing animals.

Normally, nature is a good escape. It's a healthy one. But that was the extreme version that really probably gave him something worse than the life he lived in California that he ran away from. When does an escape become another fix to a bad coping mechanism because it provides a better excuse? It's a reasonable question. If you go from one extreme doing crime and drugs (not saying he did), and then on the other you provoke bears standing in front of them, practically poking their predatory nature. That low-risk assessment behavior, that recklessness, means you haven't healed your inner problem. Oftentimes people use healthy language tropes and superficial zen hippie eco-concern nonsense to justify their own bullshit instead of dealing with core issues. Mainly Westerners, lol.

People would rather stand in front of wild bears instead of confronting their inner problems. That's crazy.:dead:

Yeah, he was in rehab to overcome his addiction issue shortly before he got obsessed with living with wild bears. I don't remember if this is in the documentary or it was a reddit post that I read but his doctor said he displayed symptoms of early-onset schizophrenia. To let a mentally unstable man run amok like that, why didn't the state intervene and ban him from the park? It didn't help that he was getting positive reinforcements like fame and interviews for his reckless behavior..
 

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The thrill seeker in me is curious about what it's like being on the other side. But be warned, I'm no Amie Huguenard. I'm running away the minute that rottweiler goes rogue..

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I remember reading about this when it happened. Poor girlfriend, she jinxed it. She was deathly afraid of the bears- her crazy bf literally forced her to the camp that day not knowing it was meant for them to die together. Brutal


Despite his reckless decision to endanger his and his gf's life, I gotta say he displayed courage his last moments. With the bear ripping his flesh and he realizes he won't make it, Timothy tells Amie to leave. Experts say she would have survived if she left quietly. Her hysterical cries triggered the bear's predator instincts, causing it to come after her.

But then again, this was traumatic incident to witness. No one knows how they'll react until they themselves are in a similar situation.. 🙏
 
The bear leaves not a single flesh. I’ve seen the body of a man killed by a bear on gore sites and it was not pretty. The bones were so white no flesh could be seen.
 

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The bear leaves not a single flesh. I’ve seen the body of a man killed by a bear on gore sites and it was not pretty. The bones were so white no flesh could be seen.


Bears, despite being deadly, look cuddly. I can understand why people put their guards down around them. People don't go close to lions in the African savanna because they aren't cute and fluffy like the bears.
 

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Despite his reckless decision to endanger his and his gf's life, I gotta say he displayed courage his last moments. With the bear ripping his flesh and he realizes he won't make it, Timothy tells Amie to leave. Experts say she would have survived if she left quietly. Her hysterical cries triggered the bear's predator instincts, causing it to come after her.

But then again, this was traumatic incident to witness. No one knows how they'll react until they themselves are in a similar situation.. 🙏


100% he was brave. If a dog or wild animal comes running towards u-- stand still and look at them. Stamp your leg and look at them stand still. They will come running, stand still and be like what the heck? Why r u not running? they want u to run and biologically they will be pursue thinking this is a meal or a weak thing to finish. If you stand still, it means to them that u r probably a predator and not a prey. They will respect u!
 
There's this phenomenon in psychology called the optimism bias. People mostly disregard bad things happening to them. Unfortunately for Timothy, he got bolder with his interactions with the bears and started getting close to even the mama bears (most dangerous group) and play with the cubs.

Professionals and wildlife experts do not interact with animals beyond what is necessary.
People benefit, generally, from optimism. The issue is if it gets in the way of assessing risks or obstructing outcome-based realistic reading of a situation that needs a greater crystalized perspective. It's a skill that can't have the same volume throughout. Sometimes optimism should be cranked up, other times lowered.

I've heard Joe Rogan constantly talk about them in clips, seen The Revenant, and watched the new amazing video of two bears fighting. Those animals are not to be played with.

Throughout the years, I've also watched 'how to survive [insert animal]' videos, lol.

I don't remember if this is in the documentary or it was a reddit post that I read but his doctor said he display symptoms of early-onset schizophrenia. To let a mentally unstable man run amok like that, why didn't the state intervene and ban him from the park?
It can be because the general public, experts included, view those extreme nature-loving types as usually idiosyncratic. So they don't know how to deal with them. Does that make sense? They expect some level of crazy. Which isn't helpful, of course.
 
Bears, despite being deadly, look cuddly. I can understand why people put their guards down around them. People don't go close to lions in the African savanna because they aren't cute and fluffy like the bears.
Humans underestimate the ferociousness of bears because they are omnivorous, too. They think since they look so fat and domestic -- that they might chew on some plants -- it translates behavioral balance, away from pure predatory instinct.

Bears are brolic. Underneath that skin, you have so much muscle. Don't let the thich hide fool you.
 

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