Greater Somalia

[Vacelere]

The creation of a greater somali nation is an obligation on us all as our brothers and sisters in SG and NFD are suffering under the hands of ajnabi governments. The DDS and NFD are both the worst regions in Ethiopia/Kenya when it comes to development and infrastructure and it is quite apparent that somalis are not given the same political powers or allocated the same budgets as other regions. Djibouti wouldn't be difficult to deal with but how do we go about this in the future (20-30 years max)

I believe it will take 80 to 120 years.

Somalia need to have the basics of decent human services, we need road we need hospitals we need education we need to make out own electricity we need clean water we need strong government we need somalia version of AIPAC we need a lot of things before we can even think about liberating SG and NFD.

This 20 to 30 years is just enough to stabilize the country and bring down federation and terrorism

 

[Midas]

This is wrong. Most powerful empire/countries are or were ruled by minority groups. The early caliphates were majority Non-Muslim/non-Arabic.

This only really applies to expansionsist powers.

 

[Midas]

It should be a priority for any future Somali government to regain Somali Galbeed from Ethiopia. Somalia with its current borders is simply too vulnerable and geopolitically disadvantaged to remain a secure long-term state without it. I'll list some reasons below for why I think this:

-First, Somalia's two major rivers and their tributaries which irrigate the vast majority of our southern agricultural land originate in Ethiopia. Ethiopia can dam and control the flow of this water, which would severely hamper Somalia’s food security.​

-Second, Somalia’s current borders consist primarily of the Somaliweyn coastline. We have no strategic depth; in the event of an invasion by Ethiopia, there would be no buffer between our border and our major population and industrial centers. The narrow geography leaves us with no maneuvering room.​

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-Third, this is related to the second point, Somalia’s awkward number 7 shape makes internal logistics inefficient. The most direct route between our two largest cities, Muqdisho and Hargeisa, cuts through Somali Galbeed, which is under Ethiopian control. This forces us to either build suboptimal infrastructure or risk relying on Ethiopia for connectivity between our cities.​

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-Fourth, Somalia proper contains only about half of the total Somali population in the region, while Ethiopia is home to an estimated 12 to 15 million Somalis at minimum. Incorporating that population would mean a larger economy, stronger military, more human capital, increased industry, and generally more resources.​

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-Final reason, Somali Galbeed comprises a significant portion of Ethiopia’s agricultural land, we're talking millions of hectares of arable soil capable of feeding tens of millions at minimum. The region is rapidly becoming Ethiopia’s breadbasket.​

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Ideally Somaliweyn's border with Ethiopia should be west of the Ahmar mountains, this way we occupy the high ground which will allow us more security. Essentially this is the same reason Israel occupies the Golan Heights. To the north our natural border should be west of the Awash river. If we ever gain the capabilities to do this, we will not only build a more geopolitically secure nation for future generations but we'll also be taking back lands we lost to Oromos and Afars at the same time, two birds with one stone.View attachment 364399

Its inevitable because of somali tfr rates. Its a ticking time bomb for the ethiopians as well. There about 35-40 million somalis between the 2 regions. By 2050 we will have 75-80 million somalis. Even the habeshis will give up the region for the sake of peace

Somalis are also probably the only group in ethiopia who can't be assimilated. Since we have our own seperate language and culutral sphere .

 

[Zak12]

there would be no buffer between our border and our major population and industrial centers.

Galbeed is the buffer zone. When Ethiopia invaded in 2006, ONLF were making strikes at ENDF forces and harrassing them. Of course they reached Mogadishu anyways but that was due to a lack of a proper army. In the right conditions, if ONLF get revived and starts getting arms again from Somalia, Galbeed will be a no mans land for Ethiopia again like it was in the 70s and 80s.

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

A lot can change in a few years. Hitler turned Germany from gaacho to a super power in a couple years lol

Dont insult Hitler. A previous Somali ambassador to Canada recently fled to Minneapolis to claim refugee status after he stole tens of thousands of dollars he collected from the Somali Canadian community meant for embassy renovations. This is the level of quality Somalia has to provide for one of the most important ambassador posts for Somalia. Somalia is totally fucked. No one reported him and I'm sure many thought he is fariid and intelligent. It will always be a failed state due to their failed culture.

 

[Top J]

Dont insult Hitler. A previous Somali ambassador to Canada recently fled to Minneapolis to claim refugee status after he stole tens of thousands of dollars he collected from the Somali Canadian community meant for embassy renovations. This is the level of quality Somalia has to provide for one of the most important ambassador posts for Somalia. Somalia is totally fucked. No one reported him and I'm sure many thought he is fariid and intelligent. It will always be a failed state due to their failed culture.

Corruption crackdown is/should be the first priority if I become leader / someone else does. Imprison those who have been taking money away from the poor then give positions based off merit (ie mayor of hargeisa for example) then completely disarm and disintegrate clan militias. That's phase 1.

 

[Crook]

Dont insult Hitler. A previous Somali ambassador to Canada recently fled to Minneapolis to claim refugee status after he stole tens of thousands of dollars he collected from the Somali Canadian community meant for embassy renovations. This is the level of quality Somalia has to provide for one of the most important ambassador posts for Somalia. Somalia is totally fucked. No one reported him and I'm sure many thought he is fariid and intelligent. It will always be a failed state due to their failed culture.

Absolutely. As long as somalis keep protecting these tuugo nothings gonna change. And that won’t change in the coming years either. We will be lucky if our country still exists in 20–30 years. And we are screwed if ww3 breaks out. From a military perspective any country could defeat us. Kenya and ethiopia won’t hesitate to attack us and taking our lands. Inshallah we don’t become like kurds man.

 

[balanbalis]

The Somalis in Ogaden and NFD will never be seen as equal citizens, they are simply under occupation, have their land stolen, have disproportionate policing against them, are hated by the majority ethnic groups simply for not giving up their Somali identity. I don’t want to abandon them to be swallowed and squeezed the colonial creations of ‘Ethiopia’ and ‘Kenya’

 

[Riftvalley]

The creation of a greater somali nation is an obligation on us all as our brothers and sisters in SG and NFD are suffering under the hands of ajnabi governments. The DDS and NFD are both the worst regions in Ethiopia/Kenya when it comes to development and infrastructure and it is quite apparent that somalis are not given the same political powers or allocated the same budgets as other regions. Djibouti wouldn't be difficult to deal with but how do we go about this in the future (20-30 years max)

I am glad more young brothers are understanding the necessity of creating Somaliweyn (btw as starting point for the Horn Islamic Union Led by Malis). It is great to see our corrupt black Somali Zionist federalists/separatists are losing influence. #Somaliweyn loading.

First thing we will do when Soamliweyn is reloaded is ban regional wrist bands and make it act of sedition punishable by death.

 

[Mohamedamiin120]

This is wrong. Most powerful empire/countries are or were ruled by minority groups. The early caliphates were majority Non-Muslim/non-Arabic.

This was back when a army of 5,000 cracked cavalry could put down hundreds of thousands, these days anybody (even children) can fight effectively and population total matters alot more.

 

[Mohamedamiin120]

it could be done Today under the conditions.

Maybe with overwhelming firepower like the USA but Somalia today does not have that, and likely never will.