Feminist “Muslimah” in a nutshell

[Kane]

That is seen as pimping in every society, every culture and every religion. There is no way you can justify this. Reread what you wrote, because it seems you've reached a new low.

You never waste an opportunity to judge me, I have only clarified his activities, never justified them. Please learned the difference.

Its one thing to defend Tate now as in after his conversation, but what you're not going to do is defend his previous immoral ways. It makes you the biggest hypocrite. You despise the West due to its immoral liberalism, but defend the old ways of a man who is the liberal poster boy.

If that were true, I would definitely be a hypocrite, but it’s wishful thinking on your part. Nice try though!

Also, isn't it ironic that you defend a man that cheats lonely man and is a scammer and go as far as calling that respectable. How immoral are you?

you have my respect for acknowledging the true victims of this crime.
I said “If you can find a way to look past his cam girl adventures, the guy has a quite respectable resume.” As in he is 4 times world kickboxing champion. Stop with the straw man arguments.

The cam girls are from Romania, a place Tate moved to due to lax trafficking and rape laws. Romania isn't the West, it isn't the UK or America.

This is pure assumption on your part, since you have neither the evidence nor the indication. For us to even entertain your accusations.

That is a blantant lie and you'll punished for such bold faced lies. Men often convert in jail in which they meet other Muslim men and usually have time to study the Quran. Mohammed Ali and Malcolm X both converted in jail. There are no women in jail, hence what you said was not only a lie but also one that lacks any form of intelligence. It's actually funny really.

Are you comparing Malcolm X and Mohammed Ali (May Allah be pleased with them), to deadbeat gaalo criminals who convert for Somali malab,only to leave the women to raise the children on their own. After turning them into social outcast from their kin and community. Unbelievable!!

Also, the issue isn't the conversation, it is the blatant love that some Muslim men like yourself have for Tate prior to his conversion.

I have never shown an ounce of affection let alone love for this man, you just making things up at this point.

He does not reside in a 'gynocentric system' he resides in Eastern Europe. He left the UK as he said he likes the idea of being able to rape and get away with it. So yes, he too knows he wouldn't be able to get away with it, hence his
Said he moved to Romania because he liked the idea of getting away with rape and he also made comments about rape being partially a woman's fault.

these are serious allegations do you have clear proof to back up your claims.

Yes, personal sins but according to scholars sins that have victims will still be punished.

There is nothing respectable about a man who advocated committing zina, calling women the B word, rape apology, mocking poor men and people in general and heightened arrogance.

Only the black hearted shaytan calls that respectable and May Allah curse those who advocated for such shatan antics.

Zina is haram. Pimps are cursed. Using women as objects haram. Islam is meant to protect women from that, but according to you, some Muslim men are drawn to that. Scary times to be a woman.

As muslims we're not arrogant or materialistic. We have a tradition of sahabas dying with nothing because they gave it all away to charity. You have Omar bin Khattab who was the Khalifa living such a humble and simple life. Those are our leaders.

When you read about most of the greatest men, they were dedicated to a cause and shunned the glory of petty money.

Swearing, using vile language is against the Sunnah and the Prophet s.a.w warned us that our tongue will take us to hell if we're not careful.

Haya is a trait that BOTH Muslim men and women are expected to adopt. According to our Islamic traditions the Prophet s.a.w had the most Haya.

Experienced in what? Zina? Pimping? Scamming people? Saying vile words? This experience you talk about goes against our Islamic values.

I love how you bring up Islam when it defends your claims, but go straight femi when it does not.

Network of rich and corrupt men like his brother who on top of pimping Romanian girls also run an only fans account.

I don't understand it as an individual who was raised in an Islamic environment. You've just illustrated that you're nafs is attached to the dunya to such an extent that you lack any form of morals or integrity. You're also a hypocrite.

I never shared my personal opinion of the man with you, I only clarified the reasons why men in general admire him. If you want my perspective ask me instead of assuming, because that’s false witnessing and it’s haram.

i don't want to ever hear you talk about how Western women have no morals when you support a man who indulges in every form of sexual deviance. Remember the Prophet s.a.w cursed the pimp and the willing prostitute.


You're actually finished as an individual.

As I have told you before I’m a man of principle, I don’t follow people or trends. For you to know my actual believes you have to know me and you don’t.

in your defense you’re very clinical and an excellent people reader, you figure them out by establishing their believes and by those they follow.

Your tried that with me on several occasions with no success, so now you have resorted to false claims shaming language.

you’ve run out of ideas, so you’re throwing everything you can at me. To see what sticks.

I hate to see you so desperate my love, cause I know you’re better this.

 

[XawoTako]

He was very disrespectful toward men during his jahiliya days. Now let’s see how his behavior changes since he is Muslim.if his intentions are pure, Islam will humble him.

 

[kickz]

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unfortunately even Islam must take a back seat to their true ideology.

Some of these twitter bints are completely brain dead

 

[Angelina]

Those are heavy accusations I hope you can back them up. I wanna see evidence .

Andrew Tate says women belong in the home, can’t drive, and are a man’s property.
He also thinks rape victims must “bear responsibility”


“It’s bang out the machete, boom in her face and grip her by the neck. Shut up ,” he says in one video, acting out how he’d attack a woman if she accused him of cheating.


Around the time UK police were investigating abuse allegations, Tate is understood to have left the UK for Romania. In one video explaining his reasons for the move he suggested it was because it would be easier to evade rape charges. This is “probably 40% of the reason” he moved there,

Inside the violent, misogynistic world of TikTok’s new star, Andrew Tate

Observer investigation reveals how the ex-kickboxer and Big Brother contestant from Luton has gone from obscurity to global internet fame in months

amp.theguardian.com

He has said this openly on video for years now, yet still you lot defend him and refuse to do research. Yet when it comes to Muslim women one comment that is suspicious is researched and analyzed. Like I said, I’m disappointed with you lot and actually scared for the men in our community.

 

[Angelina]

You never waste an opportunity to judge me, I have only clarified his activities, never justified them. Please learned the difference.


If that were true, I would definitely be a hypocrite, but it’s wishful thinking on your part. Nice try though!

Lol it is true, the evidence of him saying that is everywhere and I’ve just send it to @Bundasliga. Check it out. It was always there but you refuse because you idolize him. Simple as tbh.

you have my respect for acknowledging the true victims of this crime.
I said “If you can find a way to look past his cam girl adventures, the guy has a quite respectable resume.” As in he is 4 times world kickboxing champion. Stop with the straw man arguments.

If you look past his cam girl adventures? The man advocates for violence and is a pimp and moved to Romania to get away with rape. He said it. So be quiet.

This is pure assumption on your part, since you have neither the evidence nor the indication. For us to even entertain your accusations.

LOL, I do. You have no clue what you’re talking about. He is quoted saying that right from the horses mouth, yet you refuse to read about him. Why? Because you idolize him. You wouldn’t give anyone the benefit of the doubt especially when their are multiple videos of him saying stuff yet you blind yourself.

Are you comparing Malcolm X and Mohammed Ali (May Allah be pleased with them), to deadbeat gaalo criminals who convert for Somali malab,only to leave the women to raise the children on their own. After turning them into social outcast from their kin and community. Unbelievable!!

You’re unbelievable and a liar. There are no women in prison when people convert. So what so called malab is there? Can you not see how illogical and a liar you are?

I have never shown an ounce of affection let alone love for this man, you just making things up at this point.

Yes you have. By denying the truth despite doing 0 research and giving him the benefit of the about and by implying I’m a liar. You’re doing all that for a man who is a former pimp whose exploits are everywhere on the internet.

these are serious allegations do you have clear proof to back up your claims.

I have all the proof, sent it to @Bundasliga. One thing you need to know about me is that I rarely say things without being able to back it up

I love how you bring up Islam when it defends your claims, but go straight femi when it does not.

I’ve never said anything that is haram. Show me? You’re an immoral individual who says the most vilest of things but labels women ‘feminist’ when they don’t have your sick women hating ideologies. What have I said that goes against the deen? Point it out? Everyone here know how conservative I am and try to avoid takes that goes against Quran and Sunnah.

I’m beginning to realize that some of you men have a God complex and you actually arrogantly believe that you’re women hating corn addled ways are justified in the deen.

I never shared my personal opinion of the man with you, I only clarified the reasons why men in general admire him. If you want my perspective ask me instead of assuming, because that’s false witnessing and it’s haram.

No, you’ve done 0 research about him. Attack women who have issues with him, despite many practicing men being against him and called me a ‘feminist’ in defense of the former pimp. All that for what? Would I defend a person with a corn actress background who would be on TikTok saying the worst?

As I have told you before I’m a man of principle, I don’t follow people or trends. For you to know my actual believes you have to know me and you don’t.

No you’re not and seeing your comments and replies illustrates this. That is a laughable comment.

in your defense you’re very clinical and an excellent people reader, you figure them out by establishing their believes and by those they follow.

I am and i also do research before commenting and weigh things up. My comments about Tate isn’t based on my ‘feelings’ like it is from you and other disappointing men here. It is based on research. Videos and articles. Go to the post I sent @Bundasliga and have a good read.

Your tried that with me on several occasions with no success, so now you have resorted to false claims shaming language.

I haven’t tried anything. If I wanted I would be be able to drag you throughly. But the thing is, I’ve recognized that you’re a bit of a lost cause and delusional. Hence this will be the last time I’ll reply to you. Read the other post and that is it.

you’ve run out of ideas, so you’re throwing everything you can at me. To see what sticks.

I hate to see you so desperate my love, cause I know you’re better this.

Nope, this has nothing to do with ideas. It is your lack of integrity and your lies which speaks for itself.

-You lied that Somali women convert men that converted in Jail in which there are no women. The vast majority of Somali women only marry Faraxs and Somali women do not hype up criminal men, watching their videos and using them as a poster boys of masculinity.

-You accused me of lying about Tate or not having evidence, when all you had to do is research him and everything will come up. From videos to articles of what he has said. Yet you defend a man you ‘supposedly’ don’t know much about or do you?

this is the last I’m going back and forth with you. You’re not worth my time and energy. Because unless you actually fix up, you’re seriously a lost cause and it’s sad.

Genuinely wish you the best, you need it.

 

[Bundasliga]

Andrew Tate says women belong in the home, can’t drive, and are a man’s property.
He also thinks rape victims must “bear responsibility”


“It’s bang out the machete, boom in her face and grip her by the neck. Shut up ,” he says in one video, acting out how he’d attack a woman if she accused him of cheating.

Around the time UK police were investigating abuse allegations, Tate is understood to have left the UK for Romania. In one video explaining his reasons for the move he suggested it was because it would be easier to evade rape charges. This is “probably 40% of the reason” he moved there,

Inside the violent, misogynistic world of TikTok’s new star, Andrew Tate

Observer investigation reveals how the ex-kickboxer and Big Brother contestant from Luton has gone from obscurity to global internet fame in months

amp.theguardian.com

You should read less fake news media.
You said "he moved to Romania to be able to get away with rape " & I have not seen a single video of him saying that or someone providing evidence.

Those videos come up regarding the move to Romania

He has said this openly on video for years now, yet still you lot defend him and refuse to do research. Yet when it comes to Muslim women one comment that is suspicious is researched and analyzed. Like I said, I’m disappointed with you lot and actually scared for the men in our community.

It's not up to others to do the research, it's up to you to substantiate your claim. Which you didn't do . It should be easy to provide the video where he talks about rape & getting away with it ,but you can't even do that.

I was always critical of this guy & his shenanigans, but you women get so triggered & make up things its unbelievable. There are tons of points yall can attack ,but lying & twisting narratives makes only yall lool bad.

 

[Angelina]

You should read less fake news media.

What proof do you have that it is fake? Because it doesn’t align with what you want it to be? Why did Pierce Morgan ask him about that comment? Tate never denies it, he merely explains why he said it and obviously because he was on national TV, he is going to sanitize the reason why he said it.

Also, watch this video. Look at him advocating violence against women. You’ll defend that as well right?

TikTok - Make Your Day

vt.tiktok.com

You said "he moved to Romania to be able to get away with rape " & I have not seen a single video of him saying that or someone providing evidence.

Where did the guardian and the BBC get that claim? From thin air?

If the BBC and guardian are indeed always spreading fake news, then you need to take everything they say as fake. But you don’t. Next time you link a news article I will ask you why you think it’s true.

Those videos come up regarding the move to Romania

There are 100s of videos of him and people can move not just for one reason but multiple. Also it is fact that upon his move he was being looked into by the London met.

It's not up to others to do the research, it's up to you to substantiate your claim. Which you didn't do . It should be easy to provide the video where he talks about rape & getting away with it ,but you can't even do that.

Yes, I did. If that is fake then at least most of the news you read from The guardian and the BBC must be fake as well. Very selective you are.

LOL, they’ve removed 95% of videos off TikTok because of his crazy misogynistic views. Even you can’t find a TikTok video. You had go on YouTube to show me a freshnfit podcast. You’re so disingenuous, I don’t know where to begin.

I was always critical of this guy & his shenanigans, but you women get so triggered & make up things its unbelievable. There are tons of points yall can attack ,but lying & twisting narratives makes only yall lool bad.

I made things up? It’s from the guardian. Either the guardian and the BBC is lying. How can you say I’m making things up when it is from the news?! do you question when you read standard news from the guardian and the BBC?


No, you’re not. here are the facts

You’ll believe everything good about him.
He was a pimp which is a fact. Romania is a pimps haven which is a fact. There are enough articles and documentaries that talk about Romania’s issues with pimping and prostitution. Yet, you’ll still give him the benefit of the doubt and right now, even if I was to find a video of him saying it, you’ll come up with something else as your pride is on the line.

 

[Bundasliga]

What proof do you have that it is fake? Because it doesn’t align with what you want it to be? Why did Pierce Morgan ask him about that comment? Tate never denies it, he merely explains why he said it and obviously because he was on national TV, he is going to sanitize the reason why he said it.

Also, watch this video. Look at him advocating violence against women. You’ll defend that as well right?

TikTok - Make Your Day

vt.tiktok.com

Where did the guardian and the BBC get that claim? From thin air?

If the BBC and guardian are indeed always spreading fake news, then you need to take everything they say as fake. But you don’t. Next time you link a news article I will ask you why you think it’s true.

There are 100s of videos of him and people can move not just for one reason but multiple. Also it is fact that upon his move he was being looked into by the London met.

Yes, I did. If that is fake then at least most of the news you read from The guardian and the BBC must be fake as well. Very selective you are.

LOL, they’ve removed 95% of videos off TikTok because of his crazy misogynistic views. Even you can’t find a TikTok video. You had go on YouTube to show me a freshnfit podcast. You’re so disingenuous, I don’t know where to begin.


I made things up? It’s from the guardian. Either the guardian and the BBC is lying. How can you say I’m making things up when it is from the news?! do you question when you read standard news from the guardian and the BBC?


No, you’re not. here are the facts

You’ll believe everything good about him.
He was a pimp which is a fact. Romania is a pimps haven which is a fact. There are enough articles and documentaries that talk about Romania’s issues with pimping and prostitution. Yet, you’ll still give him the benefit of the doubt and right now, even if I was to find a video of him saying it, you’ll come up with something else as your pride is on the line.

There is no need for paragraphs of anything other than what I asked for ,you made a claim & cannot substantiate it your claim also differs from the one in the article.


"Tate is understood to have left the UK for Romania. In one video explaining his reasons for the move he suggested it was because it would be easier to evade rape charges. "

He left the UK as he said he likes the idea of being able to rape and get away with it.

Said he moved to Romania because he liked the idea of getting away with rape

When I asked for evidence I hoped for a video not an article of the fake news media .
I could find videos about all the accusations from the article besides your 2 specific claims I asked evidence for .
I hope you know those are serious accusations & spreading lies doesn't help the cause.

 

[Angelina]

There is no need for paragraphs of anything other than what I asked for ,you made a claim & cannot substantiate it your claim also differs from the one in the article.

I want to know since when major news articles like the BBC and Guardian all of a sudden become fake? Especially when those news outlets do not have a rep of fake news like Fox News or the daily mail. You’re a liar: I literally copied and pasted the article:

In one video explaining his reasons for the move he suggested it was because it would be easier to evade rape charges. This is “probably 40% of the reason” he moved there,


That is literally from the article and they quoted his 40% remark. Why lie and say I added extra when my initial post to you were just quotes I copied and pasted?

the lengths you will go to defend him is insane. I copied and pasted an article and that is what you do? Don’t embarrass yourself. I just know more will come out.

"Tate is understood to have left the UK for Romania. In one video explaining his reasons for the move he suggested it was because it would be easier to evade rape charges. "

He literally says that that is 40% why he moved. Pierce brings it up and he doesn’t deny he said it. This is the part you leave out. Conveniently:

In one video explaining his reasons for the move he suggested it was because it would be easier to evade rape charges. This is “probably 40% of the reason” he moved there,


why? Because you have an agenda.

When I asked for evidence I hoped for a video not an article of the fake news media .

Again, does the BBC and Guardian have a rep of spreading fake news. If they’re spreading fake news in regards to Tate, then a good potion of their news must be fake.

I could find videos about all the accusations from the article besides your 2 specific claims I asked evidence for .
I hope you know those are serious accusations & spreading lies doesn't help the cause.

I quoted the BBC and Guardian. So you believe they’re liars. Fascinating stuff wallahi.

 

[Bundasliga]

I want to know since when major news articles like the BBC and Guardian all of a sudden become fake? Especially when those news outlets do not have a rep of fake news like Fox News or the daily mail. You’re a liar: I literally copied and pasted the article:

In one video explaining his reasons for the move he suggested it was because it would be easier to evade rape charges. This is “probably 40% of the reason” he moved there,


That is literally from the article and they quoted his 40% remark. Why lie and say I added extra when my initial post to you were just quotes I copied and pasted?

the lengths you will go to defend him is insane. I copied and pasted an article and that is what you do? Don’t embarrass yourself. I just know more will come out.


He literally says that that is 40% why he moved. Pierce brings it up and he doesn’t deny he said it. This is the part you leave out. Conveniently:

In one video explaining his reasons for the move he suggested it was because it would be easier to evade rape charges. This is “probably 40% of the reason” he moved there,


why? Because you have an agenda.



Again, does the BBC and Guardian have a rep of spreading fake news. If they’re spreading fake news in regards to Tate, then a good potion of their news must be fake.

I quoted the BBC and Guardian. So you believe they’re liars. Fascinating stuff wallahi.

I'll do my own research & try to find it ,since you are unable and not willing to substantiate your claim.

The news article got all the information from the video clips he posted online as I said 90% are still online ,besides the one specific point I asked you to provide source for .bbc,guardian or fox news they're all the same bias & fake news.

I don't have an agenda neither do I have interest in defending a man like him & arguing senseless, I only call out extreme bullshit and want evidence for every claim . With that being said ,have a nice day.

 

[Angelina]

I'll do my own research & try to find it ,since you are unable and not willing to substantiate your claim.

My claim is from an actual article. Not something I made up from thin air. If you believe that the BBC is lying then fair enough. I just hope you have that attitude towards the news when it comes to most things, and I will call you out on it when you post any news.

The news article got all the information from the video clips he posted online as I said 90% are still online

Nope check TikTok, hardly anything these days. I’m serious I checked. Even the one about him talking about beating a woman up was hard for me to find but eventually I did.

,besides the one specific point I asked you to provide source for .bbc,guardian or fox news they're all the same bias & fake news.

BBC isn’t the same as Fox News. Everyone knows this mate. Not even competition. I wouldn’t take Fox News for any news btw, even the most basic. But the BBC is my go to and tends to have a good rep.

Obviously, news paper do indeed usually have agendas but there is nothing special about Tate apart from the fact he was able to aggressively market himself to such an extent he became a household name. In that regard he is a genius. He was banned because he become too well known and was sharing content of him ‘slapping b****’ which you can’t deny as you’ve seen the video with your own eyes.

I don't have an agenda neither do I have interest in defending a man like him & arguing senseless, I only call out extreme bullshit and want evidence for every claim . With that being said ,have a nice day.

 

[Kane]

i completely get where she's coming from. I wouldn't use the words she used but it legit just shows how doomed islam is if the biggest "islamic" youtube channels/people are celebrating this guy becoming muslim like it's some sort of a huge accomplishment or something. just sad, pathetic, cringy, and legit heartbreaking. Thanks to these idiots, islam comes off as this pathetic thing that seeks validation from legit anyone, even clowns like tate.

Her being emotional is one thing, but going as far as renouncing her faith if Tate converts is crazy.

Islam is not a trend on social media, the excitement of his conversion will die down soon, and things will get back to normal.

The actions of the Muslim women who put the sisterhood above Islam, has really changed the average Muslim man’s perception of them.

 

[Kane]

Some of these twitter bints are completely brain dead

I can’t believe I’m forced to quote a rapper, but as J cole once said “ Don’t save her she don’t want to be saved”.

 

[GuanYu]

That is seen as pimping in every society, every culture and every religion. There is no way you can justify this. Reread what you wrote, because it seems you've reached a new low.

Its one thing to defend Tate now as in after his conversation, but what you're not going to do is defend his previous immoral ways. It makes you the biggest hypocrite. You despise the West due to its immoral liberalism, but defend the old ways of a man who is the liberal poster boy.

Also, isn't it ironic that you defend a man that cheats lonely man and is a scammer and go as far as calling that respectable. How immoral are you?

The cam girls are from Romania, a place Tate moved to due to lax trafficking and rape laws. Romania isn't the West, it isn't the UK or America.

That is a blantant lie and you'll punished for such bold faced lies. Men often convert in jail in which they meet other Muslim men and usually have time to study the Quran. Mohammed Ali and Malcolm X both converted in jail. There are no women in jail, hence what you said was not only a lie but also one that lacks any form of intelligence. It's actually funny really.

Also, the issue isn't the conversation, it is the blatant love that some Muslim men like yourself have for Tate prior to his conversion.

He does not reside in a 'gynocentric system' he resides in Eastern Europe. He left the UK as he said he likes the idea of being able to rape and get away with it. So yes, he too knows he wouldn't be able to get away with it, hence his move.

Said he moved to Romania because he liked the idea of getting away with rape and he also made comments about rape being partially a woman's fault.

Yes, personal sins but according to scholars sins that have victims will still be punished.

There is nothing respectable about a man who advocated committing zina, calling women the B word, rape apology, mocking poor men and people in general and heightened arrogance.

Only the black hearted shaytan calls that respectable and May Allah curse those who advocated for such shatan antics.

Zina is haram. Pimps are cursed. Using women as objects haram. Islam is meant to protect women from that, but according to you, some Muslim men are drawn to that. Scary times to be a woman.

As muslims we're not arrogant or materialistic. We have a tradition of sahabas dying with nothing because they gave it all away to charity. You have Omar bin Khattab who was the Khalifa living such a humble and simple life. Those are our leaders.

When you read about most of the greatest men, they were dedicated to a cause and shunned the glory of petty money.

Swearing, using vile language is against the Sunnah and the Prophet s.a.w warned us that our tongue will take us to hell if we're not careful.

Haya is a trait that BOTH Muslim men and women are expected to adopt. According to our Islamic traditions the Prophet s.a.w had the most Haya.

Experienced in what? Zina? Pimping? Scamming people? Saying vile words? This experience you talk about goes against our Islamic values.

Network of rich and corrupt men like his brother who on top of pimping Romanian girls also run an only fans account.

I don't understand it as an individual who was raised in an Islamic environment. You've just illustrated that you're nafs is attached to the dunya to such an extent that you lack any form of morals or integrity. You're also a hypocrite.

i don't want to ever hear you talk about how Western women have no morals when you support a man who indulges in every form of sexual deviance. Remember the Prophet s.a.w cursed the pimp and the willing prostitute.


You're actually finished as an individual.

Please Link the source where he has said this, I personally don't watch his videos only few clips here and there and weren't even about women, so please do Link the source. I think we went over this topic before and won't go into again. Just for information please do tell me where you have seen this? Have not found it on Youtube.

 

[Kane]

I don’t think a Muslim would ever write something like that. No matter how much of a feminist you are, saying you will leave a religion because a person enters it makes no sense. You can’t deny a person to become a Muslim

The person who wrote this has to be gaal.

Most women are loyal to their emotions above all else and Islam is no exception.

That’s why pimps and players, master the art of female emotional manipulation. In order to gain their absolute loyalty and become their masters in this life.

Tate’s conversion was a blessing in disguise, because it exposed true female nature, to the sleeping masses.