These ‘perverse’ isms you mention were not welcomed during the late 1800s, which also happens to be when colonization started. Therefore, that is why I’m saying you’re getting your dates mixed up. Women first got the right to vote in 1918. By that point Britain was colonizing Africa for at least 50 yrs. Also, do you think men wanting the right to fair payment perverse? That is how socialism first started out.Let me clarify again I'm not mixing history up here I'm just talking about the build up to what is now the feminist movement in short my point is that classical liberalism is the father of all these perversed institutions like colonisation/secularism/feminism without it none of these ideologies would have materialised and were did I say America colonised anything? I can't even have a convo with you because you keep reading into things that are not there or just jump over the point I'm trying to make without addressing it all together only to go on and nitpick a random point out of context.
Strawmen argument. The Victorians most definitely were staunch Christians. Even though Henry broke from the Rome and then adopted the Protestant faith, divorce wasn’t legal for the majority of the masses until the 1960s. Also, the branch of Christianity you talk about was also influenced by Martin Luther and is in fact Protestant form of Christianity which doesn’t make you any less religious than a Catholic which is what The UK was before the Tudor period.And the victorians aren't staunch Christians there whole branch of Christianity came about because king henry the 8th wanted to divorce his wife and he didn't want the pope to have anything to say about it. protestantism is literally a remixed edition of Christianity.
The point you made didn’t even make sense.
The vast majority of society was deeply Christian. A book about Victorian society would tell you this. Don’t argue over something you can easily google. The vast majority of people attended Church without fail and society was very much based on Christian values. This is my issue with you. You want to debate about a topic you have no clue about and the more you argue the more it is becoming clear.As for your Christian African countries point The best way to gain control over an area is to spread your ideology and belief and you don't have to be a firm beliver yourself to do that which is what they did when they spread Christianity. Which is also what America is doing right now with there freedom despite american women complaining about there own rights in America.
It didn’t lead to colonization. Colonization started in 1870. Trade unionism and the suffragettes started around the same time but later and the government was in fact fighting against it. It only legalized it AFTER they started colonization. So how is it linked walal? Colonization happened BEFORE any of these things become legalized.Your point about men asking for right and then women leads back to my point since classical liberalism lead to secularism which lead to colonisation
The Industrial revolution started 1 before colonization. The industrial revolution started in 1760s whilst colonization started in the 1870s with the scramble for Africa starting in 1880. You really don’t know what you’re talking about do you?!which lead to the industrial revolution since most of there goods to heavily
No industralisation started before colonization walal. Women were working in factories well before colonization. Factory work become the norm for the very poor in the early 1800s well before feminism entered the mainstream. Working class/poor women have always worked but in bad conditions. This is a basic fact which you could even google.industrialise was sourced from there empires which lead to the break up of the family and introducing women to the workforce just so the income of the country could be doubled which then lead to the women complaining for there rights like the men before them.
It is through industrialization in which Britain was able to colonize the world as they had access to steam engines and guns ect.
it’s frustrating to debate with you as you refuse to read, you don’t know when the industrial revolution started and falsely believe that the industrial revolution happened after colonization. You even believe the redpill lie that women didn’t work before feminism. I've been seeing that circulate all over social media and it just made me cringe and people simply refuse to read these days. Poor women have always worked and the poor have always made up the vast majority in society.The rest of the world didn't go threw this process which is why most of these things are basically non existant outside of the west and the ones that have it have it as a result of the west forcing them to adapt to it.
That is what I mean when I say you muddle time and context. Perfect example and you fell right into the trap. Just have a bit humility and actually read. I’ll give you a bit of homework. Read up on when
-The industrial revolution started
- when colonization started
-When feminism, socialism started and become mainstream.
I’m done with debating with you, as it isn’t going to go anywhere as you simply refuse to read a history book.
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