Federal leaders to meet AGAIN

[GemState]

R/W Rooble Oo Shaaciyay Inay Shir Isugu Imaan Doonaan M/Goboleedyada - Radio Halgan

Ra’iisul Wasaaraha Xukuumadda Federaalka Soomaaliya Maxamed Xuseen Rooble ayaa khudbad ka jeediyay Shirka Somalia Partnership Forum ee Madaxda dowladda Federaalka, kuwa maamul Goboleedyada dalka iyo Beesha Caalamka uga socda Garoonka Aadan Cadde ee Magaalada Muqdisho. Ra’iisul Wasaare Rooble...

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[GemState]

of course, it gets deleted as I post it

Basically, the PM's official account tweeted he was going to Dhusamareb, Galkacyo, and Garowe next week and afterwards was going to hold a new FMS- FGS meeting in Xamar

 

[DR OSMAN]

@GemState the problem with villa is regardless of clan once someone gets in there, there is no 'real qadiyad' they just want to keep their job and influence, no matter what clan it is and they will be anti federal automatically so their position is maintained, it's crazy I know, it baffles me how we get around the problem as we know as federalist including yourself we don't want banadir model of federalism and prefer the PL model as that means the regions are not 'contained' power as it's separated and equal power thru the regions and we only unite when they attempt to make us 'banadir' level and u know u can't rely on every 4 years hoping your clan gets into power niyahow and that shaky place of casino gambling parliament, that's why GM is staying in their home-ground now and fighting for power to come back into the region without risking having a different clan one day in power who has huge portfolio of tasks when u know how they manage their current power like aid-army-foreign affairs which is totally tyrannical and power abuses constantly and then he wants to come to garowe n dhuso n baydhabo n kismayo and say 'war banadir modelkina qaata and be mayors n governors' that i nominate and u see at the same time he can't even manage to not abuse the small task he has now let alone giving him more which streghtens the federal regions into an alliance constantly to stop the centralist who only appear to be centralist cause they got kursi which isn't 'qadiyad' of theirs as their federalist the second their not in the kursi as you see with 'khayre' n shit. Sxb war waxani cayaartani ha layska daayo, lets not risk playing to much competition in hamar and just make it ceremoial and federal region has the power so at least it means 5 federal powers can sit down and work things out that will effect the whole nation rather then just 1 city tell the whole nation who their governor is, and mark my words when ur not in power as pm and another clan is, he will just rehash that revenge on your region and it's stupid cycle that goes nowhere as its just linked to power interests of someone in position

 

[Prime Minister]

of course, it gets deleted as I post it

Basically, the PM's official account tweeted he was going to Dhusamareb, Galkacyo, and Garowe next week and afterwards was going to hold a new FMS- FGS meeting in Xamar

He tweeted it before they accepted that’s why it’s deleted he’s talking about his intent to go there what’s wrong with these politicians why is al shabaab not given this attention.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@GemState even banadir is fed up with their status not defined as they want federal rights and I think deep down they should be given it, it's tyrannical that villa somalia decides their leader, but they can't become regional state since they are capital and different to the regions, they can have special federal territory or district status where they can elect their own banadir governor which is a good thing as it keep villa power so small that it just becomes 'face or ceremonial' place that no-one wants anymore and it satisfies international community since their concerns only is their isn't 5 different seats for somalis in the UN, so we need to work how our 1 seat can be divided multiple ways which is what federalism is, it's still 1 seat in the UN but not 1 govt inside the nation and that's perfectly fine in international law since the seat hasn't changed into multiple seats and our internal structures are our sovereign rights legally, so dont back the villa niyahow it's unreliable and shaky politics that keeps cycling thru so many different camps n clan that u won't know one day it cud be your 'ass' their after and he has too much power n wealth and will squash u and dont think he won't HSM proved what he did with his minimal power, farmajo is proving the same, so go right ahead and give him more power it's the end of you then and also me noone wins in hamar niyahow is something all somalis need to agree too

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Farmaajo is finished and so is his little ambitions for Gedo.

JL and PL are demanding that Gedo's control is handed over to President Madoobe.
PM Rooble will be visiting JL and PL, he is now officially the man that communicates with them.
HAG has morphed into USC part 2 and is prepping for war.

 

[Mr.Haggis]

We sound like a divided nation with a bunch of hoes in control.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

We sound like a divided nation with a bunch of ***s in control.

The only reason this is happening is because the federalisation process is always being sabotaged.

 

[Calaf]

The only reason this is happening is because the federalisation process is always being sabotaged.

Even when Farmajo leaves, whenever he does. Hasan Shiekh, Sharif Shiekh, they was all in the same position. Wouldn't we have the same story again. Let it be a Hawiye, a Darood or even a Issaq, Federalisation will never occur under a Somali 4.5 President.

 

[Recon Expert]

The only reason this is happening is because the federalisation process is always being sabotaged.

How is the federalisation process being sabotaged?

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

How is the federalisation process being sabotaged?

Farmaajo installs puppets as heads of federal states and even used violence (South-West State) to make it happen.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Even when Farmajo leaves, whenever he does. Hasan Shiekh, Sharif Shiekh, they was all in the same position. Wouldn't we have the same story again. Let it be a Hawiye, a Darood or even a Issaq, Federalisation will never occur under a Somali 4.5 President.

We will see.

HAG wants Benaadir State, they seem very enthused about the system lately.

 

[Recon Expert]

Farmaajo installs puppets as heads of federal states and even used violence (South-West State) to make it happen.

I am not sure what he gains from installing puppet heads but I don't think Farmaajo isn't against the federal system.

Even when Farmajo leaves, whenever he does. Hasan Shiekh, Sharif Shiekh, they was all in the same position. Wouldn't we have the same story again. Let it be a Hawiye, a Darood or even a Issaq, Federalisation will never occur under a Somali 4.5 President.

What do you mean federalisation will never occur under a Somali 4.5 president?

Aren't we a federal republic?

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

I am not sure what he gains from installing puppet heads but I don't think Farmaajo isn't against the federal system.

What do you mean federalisation will never occur under a Somali 4.5 president?

Aren't we a federal republic?

Farmaajo gains a lot from installing puppets, they will basically do his bidding and help him consolidate power. Thankfully for Somalis, he is outnumbered and running out of puppets (pawns)

 

[Calaf]

I am not sure what he gains from installing puppet heads but I don't think Farmaajo isn't against the federal system.

What do you mean federalisation will never occur under a Somali 4.5 president?

Aren't we a federal republic?

A Federal Republic by name

2 Independent States - Puntland and Somaliland
3 Under SFG Control (Puppets) - Galmudug, Hirshabelle, Koonfur
There is Jubbaland and its many issues

We was in this status quo for 10 years now. We are a Federal Republic by name, but in reality, a mess.

 

[DR OSMAN]

We will see.

HAG wants Benaadir State, they seem very enthused about the system lately.

Puntite we can play our cards safely, hybrid federation, hs/gm/banadir/sw under banadir model of federation, pl/jl full autonomy as strong as hong kong level, two systems one nation, we only attend ceremonial matters in hamar, while the rest sit there squabbling for their villa somalia as their regions r weak. Lets leave behind sade-hg-rahanwayn-abgal into langaab hell as we focus on our regions as pl/jl with our new status. Sade is about taking as many clans down into banadir model so their weak as gedo n abudwak, u know that is their strategy, we shud just cut hybrid deal n let him play with his langaabs and they go back n forth without effecting our regions as we sit with oil companies and business partners in pl/jl and not constantly join this shit fest for another 8 years with nothing delivered but a dead lock which is what some shady characters want so the world pulls out and back to 91 and horde heaven

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

@DR OSMAN

As long as HAG says "Unuka leh" and does not want to discuss a new capital in a neutral location, we must protect ourselves. Right now, we're in a system that allows HAG to control and to sabotage everything. Even Farmaajo was their puppet and now he's a headache they created.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@PuntiteQueen as for SL we can tell the world they have short-term alliance on somali hatred and my enemy is your enemy only leads to potential civil war as demonstrated in south sudan, eritrea n ethiopia, somalia n ethiopia. If u dont share a political outlook of what is to happen post somalia in somaliland and is convinceable to the world, it's basically a bloodbath in the making, so we can tell villa just keep SL in isolation status as unresolved, pl/jl full autonomy at the level of hong kong status, the rest of the nation under banadir model, amend that constitution as we answered everyone needs not trying to go back n forth on federal n central for another 10 years as the world is growing tired cuz its deadlock n time waste

 

[Mr.Haggis]

Somalia is a failed state. Period. You can't call it a functioning government. Farmaajo is a president by fashion just like halima aden. Good at showcasing.