Family and money

Fratello

Fratello

Desert Flower said:
Mom (yes).
Dad (wajib, but if he didn't to anything for you then...)
Grandparents (yes; they're old and are miskeen)
Siblings (depends on the relationship and mood)
Poor, needy people (yes).
Relatives that I'm close with and love and care about (yes: I'm talking about those that need the most help and assistance)

Everyone else: Nope. Its hard for me to forget those who have done me wrong.
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Dad: wajib so always yes
Siblings: ofc you should give to your siblings
 
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MuslimManMe

Even if your dad is a drunk deadbeat, youre obligate to give him lacaag if he asks for it.
Imam ibn Abi Zaid said in his risala that even if ones parents are kaffirs, the son must give them expenses to go attend their worship and festivals. For example, you have to give uber fare to your christian mother to go to church or give her money if she is about to prepare a christmas meal because of the obligation of kindness to the parents.

Its deep wallahi.
Anyone who serves his or her parents, mankind will serve them. Whoever is apathetic towards them, mankind will do the same.
 
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jabsveg276

MuslimManMe said:
Even if your dad is a drunk deadbeat, youre obligate to give him lacaag if he asks for it.
Imam ibn Abi Zaid said in his risala that even if ones parents are kaffirs, the son must give them expenses to go attend their worship and festivals. For example, you have to give uber fare to your christian mother to go to church or give her money if she is about to prepare a christmas meal because of the obligation of kindness to the parents.

Its deep wallahi.
Anyone who serves his or her parents, mankind will serve them. Whoever is apathetic towards them, mankind will do the same.
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What??? If your dad is a dead-beat drunkie you shouldn't give him jack shit. Maybe basic needs such as shelter, food, water, clothing and emergancy stuff. However outside of that, why?
 
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MuslimManMe

ogmomo said:
What??? If your dad is a dead-beat drunkie you shouldn't give him jack shit. Maybe basic needs such as shelter, food, water, clothing and emergancy stuff. However outside of that, why?
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If you're Muslim and wealthy, its OBLIGATORY for you to give them all their basic needs. It is highly reccomended to make their life comfortable, so getting them a car, good appliances, a maid and the like.

If you're not a Muslim or if you are intent on leaving a miserable life when you become elderly, then disregard my advice.
 
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jabsveg276

MuslimManMe said:
If you're Muslim and wealthy, its OBLIGATORY for you to give them all their basic needs. It is highly reccomended to make their life comfortable, so getting them a car, good appliances, a maid and the like.

If you're not a Muslim or if you are intent on leaving a miserable life when you become elderly, then disregard my advice.
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Luckily I have a good father, mother and family. Laakin if they were not good people who supported me on my journey, I would give them the basics. Laakin I was generous with most of my family.
 
Fratello

Fratello

MuslimManMe said:
If you're Muslim and wealthy, its OBLIGATORY for you to give them all their basic needs. It is highly reccomended to make their life comfortable, so getting them a car, good appliances, a maid and the like.

If you're not a Muslim or if you are intent on leaving a miserable life when you become elderly, then disregard my advice.
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So lets say someone has a shit father who left them very early on and never even contacted them. Do they still have to help him out? Since the father did nothing but make a woman pregnant
 
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MuslimManMe

Fratello said:
So lets say someone has a shit father who left them very early on and never even contacted them. Do they still have to help him out? Since the father did nothing but make a woman pregnant
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If he asks and you have the means, yeah.

blood is very powerful. and Allah has put baraka in maintaining its ties so long as its not harming you in a way that is excessive.
 
karkaar

karkaar

MuslimManMe said:
still wajib. no dots necessary

and siblings is higher than poor needy people.

They ask you what they should spend. Say, "Whatever you spend of good is [to be] for parents and relatives and orphans and the needy and the traveler. And whatever you do of good - indeed, Allah is Knowing of it."

Al Baqara, 215

For a man, his family's spending is wajib so Allah does not include it. For a woman, its her children. After that, the only wajib person to be spent on is one's parents. From there, relatives in order of closeness. Siblings, Grandparents, unces/aunts, cousins in that order with the only factor that could change them being one being poorer than the other.

And THEN you focus on the masakin near you and immediate in need and THEN distant masakin.
But to foresake your own siblings (not saying you do that) for random poor people is an eediat ting adn contrary to teh sunnah
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if ur parents ask for a ridiculous amount do u still have to give it.
 
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MuslimManMe

karkaar said:
if ur parents ask for a ridiculous amount do u still have to give it.
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Read the ayah that I posted before, Surah Isra, 29.

Ridiculous is subjective and based on necessity and means.
I have uncles that will pay their rent, pay their expenses, stash a bit to build houses back home and then spend the excess on their parents. Their parents will use that money to feed the village.
So you can give a large sum, it may even be a sum that you love, and not have it considered ridiculous.

Never will you attain the good until you spend from that which you love. And whatever you spend - indeed, Allah is Knowing of it.

Al E Imran, 92
 
cawaale

cawaale

You will actually lose friends by lending money cause Somalis don’t pay back, I have several niggas hiding from me
 
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Desert Flower

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MuslimManMe said:
still wajib. no dots necessary

and siblings is higher than poor needy people.

They ask you what they should spend. Say, "Whatever you spend of good is [to be] for parents and relatives and orphans and the needy and the traveler. And whatever you do of good - indeed, Allah is Knowing of it."

Al Baqara, 215

For a man, his family's spending is wajib so Allah does not include it. For a woman, its her children. After that, the only wajib person to be spent on is one's parents. From there, relatives in order of closeness. Siblings, Grandparents, unces/aunts, cousins in that order with the only factor that could change them being one being poorer than the other.

And THEN you focus on the masakin near you and immediate in need and THEN distant masakin.
But to foresake your own siblings (not saying you do that) for random poor people is an eediat ting adn contrary to teh sunnah
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You lack nuance and adab. Fix up for your own sake.
 
Emily

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Your, siblings, friends and relatives need to find jobs . You can help out your parents since they brought you to this world and raised you .
You keep giving money to siblings or relatives you are handicapping them. And don’t be friends with broke people.When you give people money or buy them coffee or food they think you are dumb. There was a coworker/friend who used to take advantage of my generosity.One day I told her b1tch you make money buy your own food and coffee.
 
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Desert Flower

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Fratello said:
Dad: wajib so always yes
Siblings: ofc you should give to your siblings
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Siblings: they can take care of themselves. Ofc they can count on me if they’re desperate.

This topic is complex because everyone is talking about their own experiences. It’s not a one size fits all situation.
 
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