DFS/SFG Minister Xaashi lashes out on Puntland, says they are against Development and Peace.

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

Last I checked, puntland wasn't a first world country. You can act superior all you want but I don't see puntland on a different tier. By all means I hope the chinese workers can build you guys out of the third world until then keep wasting your time spending on flights to addis ababa

the point is we are trying to become different while you peddle the horseshit they fed you. Im off I have some blueprints I need to finish.

 

[Tucking_Fypo]

A lie Somalis like to tell one another is that all of their politicians are the same. It is not true. Politicians from Puntland always put the interest of Puntland first, even if it goes againt the interest of all other regions. Polticians from Puntland cannot be bought to go directly against the interests of Puntland, it is what makes us different. My politicians will be corrupt, but will never sell me out. They will go that extra mile to further my interest. Your politicians will be corrupt and will sell you out. I don't stay awake at night worrying that Faroole will be bought to undermine Puntland, I know he is incorruptible in that respect.

This is the leg up Puntland has on the rest of Koonfur, and it is what drives Hawiye like you raving mad.

Well said and i agree Xeerka 1aad ee mandaqada is to always put our people and their interest first

 

[TSP]

Any form of power sharing equals to ictiraaf according to their peanut sized brains. The sad thing is that @TSP is among the most reasonable of them and that says alot

I may have went overboard with anti-puntland comments but I still stand by original position. I said spoiler because they were the only holdouts among the puppet states and if they feel the pittance they give to the SFG is too much then they should go to the independence route

 

[Lord Flacko]

The problem was not Puntland issuing permits, but the FGS double issuing permits for the same exact zones around Xaafun. The Ministry of Fisheries in Mogadishu was handing out illegal permits to the Chinese, Iranians, Taiwanese etc... without ever consulting Garowe and without their being any law regarding resource sharing at the federal level.

The Federal Government doesn't hand out licenses for fishing in Puntland at all.

All the licenses were sold by Puntland, or by corrupt Puntland officials to private businessmen who sell them in Dubai.

 

[TSP]

the point is we are trying to become different while you peddle the horseshit they fed you. Im off I have some blueprints I need to finish.

Pretty sure these guys

don't employ you as an engineer. You're going to be redirected to the security detail when they make your tuulo fantastic inshallah

 

[Abdalla]

I may have went overboard with anti-puntland comments but I still stand by original position. I said spoiler because they were the only holdouts among the puppet states and if they feel the pittance they give to the SFG is too much then they should go to the independence route

You're quite reasonable, and I think you're deliberately trying to act ignorant, but that's on you.

 

[Lord Flacko]

You're quite reasonable, and I think you're deliberately trying to act ignorant, but that's on you.

Word for word (almost) on what you are.



Self awareness is the first step towards self help.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

Any form of power sharing equals to ictiraaf according to their peanut sized brains. The sad thing is that @TSP is among the most reasonable of them and that says alot

When a Reer Bicidyahan is now referred to as an "other"

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

The Federal Government doesn't hand out licenses for fishing in Puntland at all.

All the licenses were sold by Puntland, or by corrupt Puntland officials to private businessmen who sell them in Dubai.

Categorically false, PMPF has stopped many trawlers and they often have valid licenses from the Ministry of Fisheries in Mogadishu to fish in Puntland's waters. Puntland's biggest problem is not internal corruption but Mogadishu and blatant illegal fishing by foreign countries.

 

[TSP]

You're quite reasonable, and I think you're deliberately trying to act ignorant, but that's on you.

I'll concede to @Cotton Eyed Joe when I interjected independence in our back and forth on this resource sharing issue. That was uncalled for on my part and reer puntland is part of the somalia regardless how unfavorably I view their current leaders. However, all I see recently is spats between two sides and it's in human nature to choose a side. Every word I say will be held accountable to in yawm al qiyamah and Allah swt knows who is ignorant in this case. You have to remember we digest this stuff from news media, we are not privy to what goes behind close doors.

 

[Abdalla]

Word for word (almost) on what you are.



Self awareness is the first step towards self help.

Why are you always emotional? You use to be cool as discontinuous, but you went through some kind of transformation. I let it slide when you called me a liar earlier on because I have an opposing view, and now this nonsense. Debate the topic at hand and leave personal attacks.

When a Reer Bicidyahan is now referred to as an "other"

TSP is not even an MJ. I am a good judgement of character and TSP is a reasonable forumer, the fact that he said that he went a bit overbaord in his opposition is a testimony to that. Weak attempt at whatever you're trying

 

[Yonis]

Supposedly, we should ignore all the atrocities they have committed, continue to commit and forget all about their evil plots because "Somalia".
They're too weak to assert full control over us so they want to trick us into "Somalinimo" so that they can try to ethnically cleanse us again.
The saddest thing is that NONE of them can keep up the pretense properly. One minute it's "Somalia hanoolaato", the next it's "Puntland ha burburto".


One thing we are not, is naive, HAG. Go work your juju on the others.
If HAG was strong enough, they wouldn't have to pretend and behave like munaafaq mental patients like inquisitive and his groupies.

Lidwien Kapteijins is actually my habayar. She is the wife of my grand uncle she speaks fluent somali and lives in America.

Oh no ppl might guess who i am now

 

[Lord Flacko]

Lidwien Kapteijins is actually my habayar. She is the wife of my grand uncle she speaks fluent somali and lives in America.

Oh no ppl might guess who i am now

 

[Lord Flacko]

Why are you always emotional? You use to be cool as discontinuous, but you went through some kind of transformation. I let it slide when you called me a liar earlier on because I have an opposing view, and now this nonsense. Debate the topic at hand and leave personal attacks.

There is no topic at hand. This thread is a cesspool of shit like most other

 

[Abdalla]

I'll concede to @Cotton Eyed Joe when I interjected independence in our back and forth on this resource sharing issue. That was uncalled for on my part and reer puntland is part of the somalia regardless how unfavorably I view their current leaders. However, all I see recently is spats between two sides and it's in human nature to choose a side. Every word I say will be held accountable to in yawm al qiyamah and Allah swt knows who is ignorant in this case. You have to remember we digest this stuff from news media, we are not privy to what goes behind close doors.

We shouldn't make the jobs of these politicians easier. I believe if the said minister of fishery can't cut a deal with the federal states, then he should resign and hand it to someone who can get the job done. There's no right or wrong answers but it's very weak of a politician to blame other parties that have their own interests.

 

[Lord Flacko]

Categorically false, PMPF has stopped many trawlers and they often have valid licenses from the Ministry of Fisheries in Mogadishu to fish in Puntland's waters. Puntland's biggest problem is not internal corruption but Mogadishu and blatant illegal fishing by foreign countries.

Lies.

Even the UN blasted Puntland over license corruption. And it was Mogadishu that discovered this, after an Iranian boat came to Mogadishu Port with a Puntland License.

1. Upon entering Mogadishu harbour, the Al Amal was inspected by the Mogadishu port authority. The ship’s crew produced a one-year Puntland fishing license that ostensibly authorised it to fish in Somalia’s EEZ from 1 September 2014 until 1 September 2015. FGS officials subsequently contacted the Puntland Ministry of Fisheries and Marine Resources, which responded with a letter (available in annex 2.2.b) on 15 January 2015 to the FGS, declaring the license to be a forgery. The letter stated that Puntland only issues licenses for 45-day periods, and requested that the FGS hold the vessel so that Puntland authorities could take punitive action against it.

2. The agent listed on the license is “Cabdi Nuur”. “Cabdi Nuur”, also known as Abdinor, is based in Bosaso and is a “point man” of a network supplying licenses to Korean fishing vessels.[1] “According to An Hyun Soo, fishing licenses for five of his vessels were purchased from this Dubai network, at prices ranging from USD 15,000 to USD 20,000 each.[2]


1. The Monitoring Group has obtained a copy of the Puntland fishing license the Al Amal was carrying at the time it ran aground, reproduced in annex 2.2.c. Similar to the license produced by Al Amal’s crew upon inspection at Mogadishu port, this document was forged, with the fields containing the length of its validly, dates, and nationality of the vessel noticeably altered by computer. The dates on the license purport it to be valid from 25 November 2014 to 25 November 2015; however, the license is signed and stamped by former Puntland Minister of Fisheries Mohamed Farah Adan, who had left his post by February 2014.

1. The Monitoring Group is highly concerned that that the granting of exclusive fishing rights to a foreign company may cause resentment among local fishermen and coastal communities. As in other regions of Somalia – particularly Puntland – such resentment has the potential to lead to the outbreak of violence between foreign fishing crews and local residents, and even to acts of piracy.

this is just a small bit.

 

[Ridig Rabah]

Lies.

Even the UN blasted Puntland over license corruption. And it was Mogadishu that discovered this, after an Iranian boat came to Mogadishu Port with a Puntland License.

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this is just a small bit.

What the , is that the teletubby boat drawing on the fishing license???



the fakery of these folks puntland is amusing to say the least, they couldn't even print a proper fake license at best!