Demographics of old Mogadishu


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This thread was originally a response to the “who built old shingaani” thread but I put way too much time into this for it to just be a comment :banderas:

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Since some of you are too insecure to acknowledge your own history but instead pass it onto arabs and Persians, I’ll break it down for you. The most accurate early clan counting in Mogadishu we have is by the Italians. Everything else is broad and just travellers who may have only visited a single neighbourhood saying what they think they saw.

It’s also necessary to point out that this census is just old Mogadishu which is just shingani and Xamar weyne and possibly a few neighbourhoods in xamar jajab. For context this is old mog compared to the rest of the city

It’s also important to note that this small box is the only ancestral homeland of the cad cads, outside of this box they have no claim to as this land was always settled by local nomadic groups before it urbanised (specifically mudulood and some murusade/sheekhaal nomads).

Another thing to note before reading on is that benadiri and cadcad are not the same thing. Benadiris break down into gibil cad (cadcads) and gibil madow (natives). Benadiri is just any clan who are native to the benadiri coast, at times clans like abgaal and tunni are considered benadiri. All cadcads are benadiri but not all benadiris are cadcad

This is the results of the italian census:
The first group are the Jacub e Bafadal. Jacub is yacqub which is a harti abgaal subclan. Yacqub we’re the sultans of the hiraab sultanate which is sometimes called the yacqubi immate. Yacqub are to this day still the heads of not only mudulood but hiraab as a whole although they’re today pretty small. The second group, Bafadal are “indigenous priests” according to the Italians who are small in numbers and dependant on the yacqub

we can conclude that the 580 Jacub e Bafadal count are indigenous Somalis, specifically hawiye

Next group are the Asharaf who are explicitly mentioned as being gibil cad by the Italians.
For the sake of this census, I’ll count them as cad cads although the asharaf of today look just as somali as any other clan and claim to be a rahanweyn subclan. This could easily be a case of a somali clan claiming to be from arabia to up their status which is common throughout the country. So far that’s 600 for cadcads

Next group are the amudi who are most definitely a gibil cad tribe and not somali in origin. The amudi in Somalia come from the al-amoudi clan of the hadhrami tribe in Yemen, this is apparent in both their claimed lineage and looks. This puts the cad cad numbers at 1270

Next group is reer seek a sedda ghedi (reer sheik and sadex gheedi). Reer shayk origins are not explicitly pointed out but they’re said to be small in numbers which means we can take the origins of the saddex ghedi as the main bulk of the population of this confederacy.

Saddex gheddi are said to be as follows:

So we can conclude that the 650 for saddex ghedi are also indigenous somalis specifically hawiye.

So far the numbers are 1,230 for hawiye, 1,270 for cadcads

Next group are reer mango (reer maanyo). The Italians describe them as such:

They’re origins are not specifically mentioned however they are separated from the “indigenous people” so I’ll take them as cadcads. This boosts cadcads to 1,825

Next group are reer fakhi (reer fiqi) are mentioned as Arabs so I’ll take them as cadcads. This puts cadcads at 2,165
Next group is dabaruena e scansia (Dhabarweyne and Shanshiyo). Shanshiyo are the most Typical cadcads so no need to get into them. Dhabarweyne however are gibil madow and are xawadle in origin

Since we don’t know how the Dhabarweyne-Shanshiyo confederacy breaks down, let’s break it down by half and add to each part. This puts cadcads at 2,733 and hawiye at 1,798

Next 2 are Morscia and iscasciat (Morsho and iskashato). Iskashato is a subclan of Morsho and Morsho are ajuran in origin. They are also the earliest settlers in xamar and are consistently called the true natives.

Together these put the hawiye number at 3,403

Next clan is mursola (murusade). This puts the hawiye number at 4,133

Next clan is bandabow e guzmani (bandabow). This clan is silcis in origin (gorgarte hawiye).

This puts the hawiye number at 5,383

Next clan is gesira (jazeera). They are sheekhaal in origin. This puts hawiye at 5,635

Next clan is somali immigranti. This is most likely local nomadic tribes that settled in over time. The local nomads of the Mogadishu area are a variety of hawiye clans most notably reer mataan wacbudhan abgaal

This puts the hawiye number at 7,065

The next two groups, arabi and indiani, are foreign Arabs and Indians. Their combined numbers are 1,160

The final group (Truppe indigene) are indigenous troops. For argument sake, I won’t count them in any group since this is only about the settled populous.

Finally the conclusion.

Somali (hawiye): 7,065
Cadcads: 2733
Total settled population: 10,958

64.5% somali (specifically hawiye)
24.9% cadcad
10.6% foreigners

An argument insecure folk use is that the hawiye/ethnic somalis started moving in after the cadcads had already built the city.

As Mogadishu expanded much deeper into hawiye tribal territory, the percentage count of hawiye has also drastically increased and is probably somwhere around the region of 80-85% now. The percentage of ethnic Somalis has also increased drastically since the formation of Somalia with mog at its capital and is probably over 90-95% now.

The cadcad share in even old Mogadishu is probably less than the 25% they had when the Italians arrived due to people from all over Somalia moving in. They’re numbers outside of old Mogadishu aren’t even worth mentioning

In conclusion:

Old Mogadishu and new Mogadishu are both ethnic Somali urban areas in ethnic Somali territory. Cadcad folk are not native to either and were invited to the city by ethnic Somalis (specifically hawiye clans)
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