Debunking the Myth “Democracy” In Somaliland(Informative Article)

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Debunking “Democracy” In Somaliland​

Modern democracy has been called the “rule by the people, for the people” and, as it is widely accepted, implies freedoms and rights for the people to assemble, participate, speak and choose their own leaders.

This system involves consent of the governed, rights and freedoms protected by law and equality before the law. It also requires state institutions, accountability and security that safeguard and facilitate those rights and freedoms.

For western countries, democracy elevated to the rank of sacred pedestal has become another tool to put pressure on African countries and keep them in perpetual dependence as long as it fulfills their interests.

In most African nations, and particularly in disarticulated Somalia, democracy is conflated with elections, multiparty system or as a sign of political maturity. Myths about democracy abound everywhere, however.

Understanding Somaliland​

In northern Somali regions, or Somaliland, which organized early after the central government collapse in 1991, there is a persistent belief that people from the North have inherent democratic values which doesn’t exist in the South (from Bari to Lower Jubba).

A colonial propagandist once called it “pastoral democracy” to put this twin deficit clan based system in equal footing with the western model of good governance and open society. Of course, this myth doesn’t do justice to the truth about what Somali culture whether in Borama, Burao, Bosaso, Beledweyn or Barawe.

The Somali Xeer-based system was used for centuries to manage people and resources until the colonial system relegated it to an inferior level, thus destabilizing the harmony that existed in the region.

When former president Mohamed Siyad Barre fled the country in turmoil in January 1991 and the central government collapsed, the Somali National Movement (SNM) rebel militia made Hargeisa the political centre of the newly secessionist northern regions.

After the self-proclamation of the “Republic of Somaliland” whose territory is supposed to encompass the former “British Somaliland” area, the “central clan”, a term used to designate the clan where the whole system revolves, namely the Isaq clan, made sure a semblance of agreement is obtained from other clans residing in that region.

Out of the five northern Somali regions (Sool, Sanaag, Togdheer, Waqooyi Galbeed and Awdal), the “central clan” are the majority in two regions (Togdheer and Northwest) which are located in the middle of the northern regions map.

Following the power vacuum left by the fall of the central government and their access to abandoned arms depots, SNM militiamen carried out a murderous chain of massacres against clans that did not support their rebellion.

To stop the cycle of reprisals and the continuation of violence, the SNM called on all other clans to strike a deal and meet in Burao in May 1991 where, unexpectedly, the secession of the northern regions was announced.

Clan supremacy-based democracy​

The significance of the centrality and dominance of the “Central clan” is not more about the number of its population (no census has ever been done or planned) or their location but has more to do with its political organization which stems from its militancy against the Barre regime.

The primacy of the “central clan” transcended successive Somaliland presidents and was protected by the Hargeisa elite. The system was initiated by the SNM and Mohamed Ibrahim Igal, the first Somaliland president, who had a rocky relationship with militant SNM, didn’t oppose it, as himself was a privileged member of that clan.

His vice-president and successor, Dahir Rayale Kahin, who came from Awdal, benefitted from tensions within the Central clan to cling to power and did not touch the system he inherited. He was finally ousted by the SNM old guard once they found common ground.

If we compare to other “democratic” societies, Somaliland would be closely related to other exclusionary democracies like Israel, South Africa under Apartheid and even the Ancient Greece.
The exclusivist ideology of the SNM that President Igal wanted to dilute resurfaced more militant than ever during the campaign to remove Kahin from the presidency.

We could compare it to the hateful campaign the Union of Presidential Candidates unleashed on President Mohamed Abdullahi Farmajo the last few months.
Among the terms used against President Kahin was he was “foreign” to the Hargeisa region, he was from a “lesser caste”, he didn’t participate in the “jihad” against Siyad Barre, he was a “dictator” like his former boss in reference of his position as the head of the National Security Service (NSS) in the Barre regime. Hateful rhetoric and the use of the media as a propaganda machine were common to remove him.

Somaliland clan-supremacy democracy is not the kind of democratic system that will bring Somalis together but rather a step for the next civil war. The monopoly of the “central clan” in Hargeisa, as in the duopoly in the federal, will only weaken the Somali nation and corrupt those who feel entitled to lead the general population.

Somaliland political parties​

In 2010, when the SNM old guard, united under the Kulmiye party led by Ahmed Silanyo, unseated president Kahin, the first action the new president did was to undermine Kahin’s UDUB party until he replaced it by the Wadani party to Hargeisa’s jubilation.

UDUB party’s appeal to politicians from diverse backgrounds and especially Rayale Kahin influence in Hargeisa politics were unbearable to Silanyo and his Kulmiye party. He conceived the idea of temporarily opening the closed multiparty system to pluck UDUB of its promising leaders who formed their own parties for the 2011 municipal elections.

Some will say democracy is about multiparty system. In Somaliland, only three political parties, hailing from the same dominant clan, are allowed. Numerous demands and protests to allow other parties to register and stand for election have fallen on deaf ears.
Serious or not, the current president, Musa Bihi, reportedly considered letting other parties run for the next elections, but the other two political parties refused. Imagine that.

The difference of the three official parties is more on the form than on the substance but also more on sub-clans’ politics and access to more cash for their corrupt leaders. All candidates MUST be registered under either of these parties, whether or not they agree with their platform as no independent candidate is allowed.

It is a cruel fate to see candidates from Awdal, Sol and Sanag running for Faysal Ali Warabe’s party known to regularly badmouth their communities.

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Not so free or fair elections​

As in any half-baked democracy, voters suppression reigns supreme in Somaliland. For example, in areas the Central clan wants a certain outcome, especially in Sol, Sanag and Awdal, riding are redrawn at will after each elections, ballots stuffing are widespread, ballot boxes are placed in hard to access rural areas which leave in a country where infrastructure is inexistent and people live on meagre resources.

In Somaliland, until recently, one person-one vote system was only theory as in fact one person could vote 10 times. One nice lady in Burao was once complaining she didn’t vote as much time as she wanted for Ahmed Silanyo compare to her neighbour who voted 8 times against him. Also, dead people or children could vote.

This year, some areas like the densely populated Borama were given three days to register for the elections. However, residents who still believe that defective democracy is better than no democracy said they had to wait up to eight hours to get their voting card.

They said National Electoral Commission workers had struggled with the biometric registration system or had no internet connection which made delay the registration and prevented many to register. In a poverty-stricken country like Somalia, people have to fetch for food instead of waiting in line for hours to assert their civic duties.

There are many voter suppression tactics used by the Hargeisa administration either to shut down polling sites because they call it “disputed site” (i.e. the Six Sites between Gabiley District-Awdal) without even trying to resolve the “dispute”.

Also, truckloads of people from Djibouti and Ethiopia are moved to area the administration wants to tamper with the outcome of the elections. There’s a lot of money involved in this huge movement of people. Once they have obtained their voters’ cards, they go back to where they were from and someone within the system make sure their ballots are casted.

In Somaliland, corruption and Hargeisa’s focus to uphold the central clan’s preeminence trump on freedom to field your own candidate or rights to vote in your place of residence.

Restrictions are put in place sometimes and in some areas you don’t even have to prove your residency, your age or “citizenship” (this last concept being inexistent in the whole Somalia). In well-established democratic societies, proofs of age, citizenship and residency are important to participate in national elections, not in Somaliland.

 

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Regional proportional representation​

Hargeisa’s house of representatives, Golaha Wakiilada, is designed in a way that the “central clan” will keep 80% of the 82 seats. The allocation of seats conveniently uses the colonial era legislative council representation model which at that time was 33 seats.

This percentage is arbitrary and doesn’t reflect the population ratio. The Central clan decided they are the majority like it or not. Attempt by other clans to change that unfair treatment was frustrated either by postponing the decision on that issue to after the 2005 legislative elections.

On that question, President Kahin convinced protesting clans, including his native Awdal region, to be patient as the election law passed in 2005 inserted a sunset clause that makes the next legislative election impossible unless a census is conducted and a true representation is reflected on the assembly.

Of the numerous concerns raised by diverse parties of the 2005 election law, only those raised by the Central clan was addressed with the February 2020 and July 2020 agreements between Kulmiye, the ruling part, and the two opposition parties, Wadani and UCID. Fair representation of northern regions communities was not part of the deal.

For that to happen a majority vote is needed and there’s no chance that it will ever happen. At one point, during the amendment of the 2005 election law, Sol, Sanag and Awdal representatives walked out of the Golaha Wakiilada proceedings in protest but the Central clan members didn’t budge as their absence wouldn’t affect the quorum and the outcome.

The matter was submitted to the President Musa Bihi’s consideration as this can only be done by executive decision but he dodged the question by petitioning the Hargeisa-based Supreme court headed by a relative who without much deliberation dismissed the 2005 ruling on the sunset clause.

Youth in Awdal, echoed by the Sol and Sanag youth, spearheaded a movement pressuring their representatives and elders to do something against their lack of representation. This momentum was cut short when once again the police state used abusive tactics by criminalizing their peaceful movement.

The Hargeisa system is not only chauvinistic in nature but it is also inauspicious to women in politics as the Central clan leadership is a boys club deeply suspicious of women overstepping their traditional roles. This is a long way from the 30% and more sought by female MPs at the federal level.

In Somaliland elections, routinely praised and funded by foreign countries, no matter how many voters (millions or just one hundred) come out in Sol, Sanag and Awdal, it will not make any difference because the number of their representative proportionality will not change.

 

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As things stand now​

Despite the fact that Somaliland has declared itself independent and boasts of its so-called democratic values, the Central Clan’s main ideologues and leaders, Musa Bihi himself leading the pack, are staunch supporters of the Union of Presidential Candidates in Mogadishu.

In addition, their lobbying effort in favor of the position of Jubaland and Puntland in pushing for a weak central government has been felt recently in Mogadishu. Hargeisa leadership had a cordial relationship with Hassan Sheikh when he was president until Farmajo’s nationalist agenda upended this honeymoon.

However, the general population in the North is attracted to the more diverse Mogadishu democracy, even if they despise the 4.5 system arrangement or the duopoly in Villa Somalia. They still believe, with a truly patriotic leader at the helm of the nation, this unequal representation could be corrected and accountability restore hope to millions of Somalis in the country.

Many in the northern regions, whether they are from the disenfranchised communities or from even the most privileged Central clan members, follow closely the news from the electoral talks in Mogadishu and are looking forward to see a united Somalia and a strong central government.

While in the federal system, a consensus is necessary to satisfy all the political stakeholders, good or bad, in Hargeisa only parties within the Central clan have to be on board and doesn’t have to convince or listen concerns arising from Awdal, Sol, Sanag communities, minorities groups or women regardless of their clan.

There’s a campaign circulating on the opposition side praising the “democracy” and “stability” in Somaliland. If there’s a democracy, it could be compared to the model used in Israel where only Jews can enjoy the benefits of it while delegitimizing the Arabs with every abuses that comes with it.

In Short, this is NOT the kind of democracy we need in a federal Somalia and any attempt to copy Somaliland’s “democracy” is doomed to failure. What we need is the Universal Suffrage so everyone knows the more we vote, the more the chance of electing the best candidate. An arbitrarily set percentage assigned to any particular clan would only set us back.

Debunking “Democracy” In Somaliland

Using historical facts, we will be debunking democracy in Somaliland where myths on its exceptionalism abound.

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[SomaliRealist]

Somaliland democracy is no different to anyone else democracy in 1st world. The majority will always have larger number returns than minorities it simple numbers. In the west whites always have larger outcomes and dominate the political scene. Somaliland already proved their democracy works by electing a minority as president 2003-2010 through 1m1v showing it’s not always based on clan. A 1st world example would be Ilhan Omar’s district which is majority white voters and democrat electing her. Sometimes majority chooses minority


Historically it’s always been the same. 1960 elections the majority isaaq parties won while the minorities gained just 22% of the vote through 2 parties. Larger population matters in 1m1v. If Somalia implemented 1m1v today the major winners would be Hawiye and Raxanweyne

 

[Manafesto]

Somaliland democracy is no different to anyone else democracy in 1st world. The majority will always have larger number returns than minorities it simple numbers. In the west whites always have larger outcomes and dominate the political scene. Somaliland already proved their democracy works by electing a minority as president 2003-2010 through 1m1v showing it’s not always based on clan. A 1st world example would be Ilhan Omar’s district which is majority white voters and democrat electing her. Sometimes majority chooses minority

Don't forget that 17% of Minnesotans are MJs which is large number of votes Ihan wouldn't have won with MN Puntites, Waryaa, we are not a minority there, quit lying, Minnesota is basically a Puntland North American colony, there is reason the MN Twin cities are sisters with Garowe and not Xaargeysa or Bombdish lol.

Historically it’s always been the same. 1960 elections the majority isaaq parties won while the minorities gained just 22% of the vote through 2 parties. Larger population matters in 1m1v. If Somalia implemented 1m1v today the major winners would be Hawiye and Raxanweyne View attachment 219262

Don't derail my thread with your dhulbahante obsession, let us talk like civilized citizens of Nothern Somalia, is there part of anything you dont agree with on this article.

 

[SomaliRealist]

Don't forget that 17% of Minnesotans are MJs which is large number of votes Ihan wouldn't have won with MN Puntites, Waryaa, we are not a minority there, quit lying, Minnesota is basically a Puntland North American colony, there is reason the MN Twin cities are sisters with Garowe and not Xaargeysa or Bombdish lol.


Don't derail my thread with your dhulbahante obsession, let us talk like civilized citizens of Nothern Somalia, is there part of anything you dont agree with on this article.

You clearly don’t understand politics. Ilhans district is 67% white. MJs live elsewhere. White people elected Ilhan not MJs.



Plus I didn’t derail your thread. I used 1960 data to back up my point that Somaliland has 1m1v elections today and used data from 1960 that correlates with today. That’s called context. I didn’t mention any clans you did. Your whole thread is about Somaliland so how can I derail it with Somaliland voting related material? Stay on topic.

I mean yeah there’s a lot to disagree with in the article as most of what you quoted is largely irrelevant. Somalilands democratic voting model is the best in East Africa. The little pilot run Puntland did last year isn’t true democracy as you reserved some seats for women as a quota. Thats very 4.5ish of you. That’s not real democracy that’s giving them an option that the government presented them of who to choose from, not who they really want. That’s not how democracy works it’s all about the power of the voters and who they choose.

 

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You clearly don’t understand politics. Ilhans district is 67% white. MJs live elsewhere. White people elected Ilhan not MJs.



Plus I didn’t derail your thread. I used 1960 data to back up my point that Somaliland has 1m1v elections today and used data from 1960 that correlates with today. That’s called context. I didn’t mention any clans you did. Your whole thread is about Somaliland so how can I derail it with Somaliland voting related material? Stay on topic.

I mean yeah there’s a lot to disagree with in the article as most of what you quoted is largely irrelevant. Somalilands democratic voting model is the best in East Africa. The little pilot run Puntland did last year isn’t true democracy as you reserved some seats for women as a quota. Thats very 4.5ish of you. That’s not real democracy that’s giving them an option that the government presented them of who to choose from, not who they really want. That’s not how democracy works it’s all about the power of the voters and who they choose.

Somaliland failed to achieve anything remamrkble even though SL has been enjoying 30 years of stablity, heck even Mogadishu looks much cleaner and better on each and everyway.

I mean,let me actually agree with you and say SL has fair and feee election system in place, how would that help the hungry Edoor in the Burco slums,the answer is wouldn't, if a government doesn't have basic services like free school,hospitals and free housing for unemployed and seniors then it should be called a government and that is what SL is.

 

[SomaliRealist]

Somaliland failed to achieve anything remamrkble even though SL has been enjoying 30 years of stablity, heck even Mogadishu looks much cleaner and better on each and everyway.

I mean,let me actually agree with you and say SL has fair and feee election system in place, how would that help the hungry Edoor in the Burco slums,the answer is wouldn't, if a government doesn't have basic services like free school,hospitals and free housing for unemployed and seniors then it should be called a government and that is what SL is.

Your first point is off topic and has nothing to do with the thread but If Somaliland has failed to achieve anything why then do you copy it at every turn?


And your second point is also completely irrelevant to the theme of the thread which is only about Somaliland democracy. I could ask the same question about your poor people but that’s going off topic.

Stay on topic kid I see you have a hard time when your low IQ thread was destroyed easily

If you want to talk about which one is a real government that’s a totally other topic. Open another thread I will school you in there

 

[Manafesto]

Your first point is off topic and has nothing to do with the thread but If Somaliland has failed to achieve anything why then do you copy it at every turn?


And your second point is also completely irrelevant to the theme of the thread which is only about Somaliland democracy. I could ask the same question about your poor people but that’s going off topic.

Stay on topic kid I see you have a hard time when your low IQ thread was destroyed easily

If you want to talk about which one is a real government that’s a totally other topic. Open another thread I will school you in there

Waryaa walaahi you sound like @Gantaal,but anyway if there such thing as a free and fair bases election in Somaliland how come a majority tribe like GX are constantly subjaguted or even allowed to win VIlla Hargeisa seat?

And seriously if it is fair as claim then why 70% of SL's presidential winners are SNM, you don't think the same group that founded the traingle administration in the first place and continues to control can vote for themselves, elections can be rigged easily even here in the West.

 

[SomaliRealist]

Waryaa walaahi you sound like @Gantaal,but anyway if there such thing as a free and fair bases election in Somaliland how come a majority tribe like GX are constantly subjaguted or even allowed to win VIlla Hargeisa seat?

And seriously if it is fair as claim then why 70% of SL's presidential winners are SNM, you don't think the same group that founded the traingle administration in the first place and continues to control can vote for themselves, elections can be rigged easily even here in the West.

If I sound like @Gantaal which I’m not wallahi it’s probably because he engages in facts.

For your first question I see you are struggling to comprehend simple maths. GX lost past elections because their vote was split between Wadani and UCID (but not as much UCID). There’s 2 GX parties. The Kulmiye voting block had more NUMBERS which matters in 1m1v I can see how you wouldn’t understand this since 1m1v is foreign to you. You even failed at that by inserting 4.5 woman quota lol.

The main reason Riyaale (samaroon) became president 2003 is because most Garxajis voted for UDUB along with samaroon clan and even some HA. Whoever comes with the larger numbers will always win. This isn’t rocket science 1+1 still equals 2

Only 2 of Somalilands presidents who came through 1m1v election were SNM (Siilaanyo and Biixi) Egal and Riyaale were not SNM. So in the era of 1m1v former SNM only won 50% of the vote not 70%. I know facts hurt your people a lot

Why don’t we talk about how only maxamuud saleeban gets to be president of PL? Where’s Ali Saleeban, reer bicidyahan, dhishishe, Leelkase , Warsangeli , dhulbahante ??? Don’t throw stones from a glass house kid

I think the biggest problem with you and explains your love for misinformation is that you are allergic to facts. Just look how you quickly changed the subject of the thread 3 times already LOL

 

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If I sound like @Gantaal which I’m not wallahi it’s probably because he engages in facts.

For your first question I see you are struggling to comprehend simple maths. GX lost past elections because their vote was split between Wadani and UCID (but not as much UCID). There’s 2 GX parties. The Kulmiye voting block had more NUMBERS which matters in 1m1v I can see how you wouldn’t understand this since 1m1v is foreign to you. You even failed at that by inserting 4.5 woman quota lol.

The main reason Riyaale (samaroon) became president 2003 is because most Garxajis voted for UDUB along with samaroon clan and even some HA. Whoever comes with the larger numbers will always win. This isn’t rocket science 1+1 still equals 2

Only 2 of Somalilands presidents who came through 1m1v election were SNM (Siilaanyo and Biixi) Egal and Riyaale were not SNM. So in the era of 1m1v former SNM only won 50% of the vote not 70%. I know facts hurt your people a lot

Why don’t we talk about how only maxamuud saleeban gets to be president of PL? Where’s Ali Saleeban, reer bicidyahan, dhishishe, Leelkase , Warsangeli , dhulbahante ??? Don’t throw stones from a glass house kid

I think the biggest problem with you and explains your love for misinformation is that you are allergic to facts. Just look how you quickly changed the subject of the thread 3 times already LOL

So,are you seriously saying with a straight phase that SNM elites in charge of the SL project wouldn't rig the election results?

I mean, there are solid evidence indicating massive voter registration fruad in SL, voters with multiple cards voting from different districts,SL is one of the poorest and most corrupt unrecognied region in the world, it is stupid for you think such things wouldn't happen there.

 

[SomaliRealist]

So,are you seriously saying with a straight phase that SNM elites in charge of the SL project wouldn't rig the election results?

I mean, there are solid evidence indicating massive voter registration fruad in SL, voters with multiple cards voting from different districts,SL is one of the poorest and most corrupt unrecognied region in the world, it is stupid for you think such things wouldn't happen there.

So this is what you’re falling back on? You know Faysal Cali Waraabe and Abdirahman Cirro are not SNM either right ?

the Somaliland elections were deemed free and fair by the number of international observers who attended. It’s funny you’re even trying to call the credibility of Somaliland elections into question when your little state Puntlands failed election pilot Was fraudulent according to Garowe Online


You can’t even hold local elections in just 3 district right. Couldn’t handle just 3 districts?

Beerka you couldn’t even hold a quota (fake) election with just 37k registered voters you should copy Somaliland some more till you get it right

 

[Manafesto]

So this is what you’re falling back on? You know Faysal Cali Waraabe and Abdirahman Cirro are not SNM either right ?

the Somaliland elections were deemed free and fair by the number of international observers who attended. It’s funny you’re even trying to call the credibility of Somaliland elections into question when your little state Puntlands failed election pilot Was fraudulent according to Garowe Online


You can’t even hold local elections in just 3 district right. Couldn’t handle just 3 districts? Maybe you should copy Somaliland some more till you get it right

Most countries in the world deal with election voting frauds,errors and irregularities, countries like USA stills deals with these election fraud even though the been adminstrying elections for a century and you think PL FIET can make a mistake?

It even happens in SL all the time, this is why all the candidates that lost in SL presidential elections called out that the election was rigged and was fraud one, isku xishoo ciyaal baad tahay aan wax ba u war hayn.

 

[SomaliRealist]

Most countries in the world deal with election voting frauds,errors and irregularities, countries like USA stills deals with these election fraud even though the been adminstrying elections for a century and you think PL FIET can make a mistake?

It even happens in SL all the time, this is why all the candidates that lost in SL presidential elections called out that the election was rigged and was fraud one, isku xishoo ciyaal baad tahay aan wax ba u war hayn.

Actually according to the international election observes the Somaliland election was free and fair

Unlike Puntland which had no observers and was called out by everyone besides the ruling party as fake election. You couldn’t even handle 37K registered voters and you dare compare yourself with Somaliland which has over 1.3 million registered voters ? Sit down and isku xishood

Somaliland free and fair elections is a main reason why it’s rated so differently than your Somalia

Your inability to hold a real election with just 37k voters in 3 districts is a an example of one of the reason why. MS is against 1m1v in Puntland. They could never imagine a Ali Saleeban, Wabeeneye, reer bicidyahan, Leelkase, dhshishe, Warsangeli , or dhulbahante to ever become Pres of PL which is less than a triangle as your own government got trounced in Bosaso recently you are just a maamul for Garowe and half of galkacyo

 

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Thread backfire

 

[Manafesto]

Actually according to the international election observes the Somaliland election was free and fair

Unlike Puntland which had no observers and was called out by everyone besides the ruling party as fake election. You couldn’t even handle 37K registered voters and you dare compare yourself with Somaliland which has over 1 million registered voters ? Sit down and isku xishood

You are quite jumping around the question I am asking, what makes you think these low salaried Somaliland Election committees fellas wouldn't take a bribe? This is Somaliland man ,C'mon, an isolated desert NW region of Somalia.

A simple Google search on somaliland's history of election fraud was reported by all kind of international media, but I guess I should take the word of an anonymous user instead, waay kaa waalantahay boowe.

httpss://allafrica.com/stories/201711170342.html

https://www.garoweonline.com/en/news/somaliland/somalia-5-dead-in-somaliland-protests-over-election-fraud-claim

Somaliland police seize fake ballots

Police in Hargeysa, the capital of the self-declared republic of Somaliland, seized fake ballot papers at the territory's main airport on Thursday as authorities expanded their crackdown on reported fraud in the run-up to legislative elections slated for 29 September. "Following a tip-off from...

www.thenewhumanitarian.org

 

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So this is what you’re falling back on? You know Faysal Cali Waraabe and Abdirahman Cirro are not SNM either right ?

the Somaliland elections were deemed free and fair by the number of international observers who attended. It’s funny you’re even trying to call the credibility of Somaliland elections into question when your little state Puntlands failed election pilot Was fraudulent according to Garowe Online


You can’t even hold local elections in just 3 district right. Couldn’t handle just 3 districts?

Beerka you couldn’t even hold a quota (fake) election with just 37k registered voters you should copy Somaliland some more till you get it right

Make a thread on this.

 

[SomaliRealist]

You are quite jumping around the question I am asking, what makes you think these low salaried Somaliland Election committees fellas wouldn't take a bribe? This is Somaliland man ,C'mon, an isolated desert NW region of Somalia.

View attachment 219275

A simple Google search on somaliland's history of election fraud was reported by all kind of international media, but I guess I should take the word of an anonymous user instead, waay kaa waalantahay boowe.

httpss://allafrica.com/stories/201711170342.html

https://www.garoweonline.com/en/news/somaliland/somalia-5-dead-in-somaliland-protests-over-election-fraud-claim

Somaliland police seize fake ballots

Police in Hargeysa, the capital of the self-declared republic of Somaliland, seized fake ballot papers at the territory's main airport on Thursday as authorities expanded their crackdown on reported fraud in the run-up to legislative elections slated for 29 September. "Following a tip-off from...

www.thenewhumanitarian.org

All of your delusions are simply sour grapes. The international community verified the Somaliland elections were free and fair. Of course losers will make all types of claims to explain away their loss but that’s not true Somaliland tradition

Like 2003 for example when Silaanyo lost by 80 votes to Riyaale. He didn’t claim fraud even though the margin was just 80 votes He simply came back 2010 and won.

Nothing changes the fact the international observers graded the Somaliland election free and fair

International media even said you guys could learn a thing or two from us

But I think your state already knows it can learn things from us since it copies us left and right even going as far to steal somalilands election laws word for word LOL #CopyPasteLand

 

[Manafesto]

Waryaa @SomaliRealist ,are you telling me these low salaried Somaliland Election committe wouldn't take bribe,you are dallusional walahi if you think there is such thing called free and fair election in an unrecognized desert region in Somalia.

Let me remind you also that the average Somalilanders earns a dollar a day, besides, you really think SNM elites and Jeegaans wouldn't rig the election to themselves, they have committed crimes against humanity during their rebalions.

Eveyronr knows that SNM rebel commanders run the show in the traingle region and they sure would never ever let a someone else beside their friends win, SNM didnt just commit geniocided Awdalians for someone else to take their made up republic.