Debunking that Yusuf bin Ahmad al-Kawneyn brought Islam in the Maldives

killerxsmoke

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so as many of you know Yusuf bin Ahmad al-Kawneyn is known for bringing Islam to Maldives in Somali history, but it looks like they aren't the same person. both Moroccans and Somalis both claim him, but it looks like Yusuf isn't from either of their countries but he is from none other than Iran. let me show you some evidence:

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as you can see here, it looks like ibn Battuta lied. the guy is known for lying sometimes in his travels this isn't really surprising.


now here below is the evidence that he is from Iran



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Yusuf bin Ahmad al-Kawneyn was never ever called tabrizi.

if you guys want more evidence look right here

this is the grave of yusuf tabrizi


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and this is Yusuf bin Ahmad al-Kawneyn grave, they are 2 diffrent people


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i hope this thread can stop people claiming Yusuf bin Ahmad al-Kawneyn for bringing islam to maldives when he didnt
 

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so as many of you know Yusuf bin Ahmad al-Kawneyn is known for bringing Islam to Maldives in Somali history, but it looks like they aren't the same person. both Moroccans and Somalis both claim him, but it looks like Yusuf isn't from either of their countries but he is from none other than Iran. let me show you some evidence:

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as you can see here, it looks like ibn Battuta lied. the guy is known for lying sometimes in his travels this isn't really surprising.


now here below is the evidence that he is from Iran



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Yusuf bin Ahmad al-Kawneyn was never ever called tabrizi.

if you guys want more evidence look right here

this is the grave of yusuf tabrizi


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and this is Yusuf bin Ahmad al-Kawneyn grave, they are 2 diffrent people


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i hope this thread can stop people claiming Yusuf bin Ahmad al-Kawneyn for bringing islam to maldives when he didnt
First of all Abu barakat al barbari was the name used by Ibn battuta, barbari was a term for Somali even though some people say he was Moroccan Berber which is less likely considering the closer proximity of Somalia to the Maldives.
Anyway why would Ibn battuta lie? I wouldn't say he lied, maybe we misunderstood him.
 

killerxsmoke

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First of all Abu barakat al barbari was the name used by Ibn battuta, barbari was a term for Somali even though some people say he was Moroccan Berber which is less likely considering the closer proximity of Somalia to the Maldives.
Anyway why would Ibn battuta lie? I wouldn't say he lied, maybe we misunderstood him.
bruh there are liteally 2 tombs of them, so basically 2 people :ohdamn:
 

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bruh there are liteally 2 tombs of them, so basically 2 people :ohdamn:
I know but tombs can be misleading we don't know who is burried there, there are many saints in Christianity who were actual historical figures that have many different tombs cause everyone claims to have the body of the saint in their home country.
 

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Somalis are the only ones with history on that island. I watched a tiktok like a year ago where a maldivean said in history class they are taught SOMALIS brought Islam to them. Also maldvies is Shafi Islam, Morocco is Hanbali and they have ZERO influence in the Indian ocean and have nothing to do with the Maldives. Iran is Shia, Maldives doesn’t even let you have citizenship if you aren’t Sunni Muslim. Berberi’s other name is “Aw Barkhadle”, that man is 100% somali. I read up on him before and he is from Zeila, I don’t remember what his clan was exactly but he was a northerner. I think Dir, I need to double check.

Stop trying to discredit somalis you langaab.
:camby:
 
Maghrebi Berbers also had a presence in Somalia it seems. E-M81 is one of the main lineages of the Sheekhaal clan who, coincidentally, were also known for spreading Islam throughout Somali territory.
 

ZBR

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Iranis are known to fabricate history and claim other people achievements in almost every field
 
Somalis are the only ones with history on that island. I watched a tiktok like a year ago where a maldivean said in history class they are taught SOMALIS brought Islam to them. Also maldvies is Shafi Islam, Morocco is Hanbali and they have ZERO influence in the Indian ocean and have nothing to do with the Maldives. Iran is Shia, Maldives doesn’t even let you have citizenship if you aren’t Sunni Muslim. Berberi’s other name is “Aw Barkhadle”, that man is 100% somali. I read up on him before and he is from Zeila, I don’t remember what his clan was exactly but he was a northerner. I think Dir, I need to double check.

Stop trying to discredit somalis you langaab.
:camby:
Morroco and North Africa (apart from Egypt) are not Hanbalis, they’re predominantly Malikis. Hanbalis are only found in the Arabian peninsula (Saudi and Qatar for example are Hanbalis) and maybe some parts of Syria if i’m not mistaken.
 

Qeelbax

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Morroco and North Africa (apart from Egypt) are not Hanbalis, they’re predominantly Malikis. Hanbalis are only found in the Arabian peninsula (Saudi and Qatar for example are Hanbalis) and maybe some parts of Syria if i’m not mistaken.
You’re right. Wrong one, still not shafi.
 
You’re right. Wrong one, still not shafi.
Just because they are Shafii does not mean that it was the Somali that introduced Islam to them. It is more likely that it was yemeni traders from Hadramaut and other southern regions, with whom the Maldives used to trade for thousands of years, introduced Shafii Islam to them the same way they did to Somalia. Also the idea that somehow one man introduced a for them foreign religion like Islam to the Islands, converted their king and thats how the country became islamic is not plausible. It is more likely that as more and more traders visited the Islands it was probably the merchants and elites that first converted to the new religion and then in the 12th century after a gradual Islamization process a sizeable percentage of the population already was muslim and with that the buddhist king accepted Islam.
 

killerxsmoke

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Iranian lol, what bullshit gtfo,

Dont know why Somalis love discrediting thier history and figures
Nigga I showed you proof, while u didnt.

Yusuf kawneyn was never known for introducing Islam to Maldives until people read ibn Battutas travels
 

killerxsmoke

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you guys need to accept that he aint somali, before ibn battuta travels was translated yusuf wasnt known for spreading islam to maldives.

if you guys want to debunk me bring me proof instead of speaking through your emotions
 

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Somalis are the only ones with history on that island. I watched a tiktok like a year ago where a maldivean said in history class they are taught SOMALIS brought Islam to them. Also maldvies is Shafi Islam, Morocco is Hanbali and they have ZERO influence in the Indian ocean and have nothing to do with the Maldives. Iran is Shia, Maldives doesn’t even let you have citizenship if you aren’t Sunni Muslim. Berberi’s other name is “Aw Barkhadle”, that man is 100% somali. I read up on him before and he is from Zeila, I don’t remember what his clan was exactly but he was a northerner. I think Dir, I need to double check.

Stop trying to discredit somalis you langaab.
:camby:
Wallahi it is so frustrating, this is exactly the same case with idiots giving credits to Yemenis for our own unique spice mix, like c’mon and have some balls!!! We have our own history for gods sake that is rich and beautiful on its own :bell:
 

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