Cyber Security

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  1. DR OSMAN

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    Anyone work in that area here or interested in? this far easier topic to discuss then diplomacy or politics, this doesn't talk about. Let's butt heads here, at least something will eventually come from it.

    It seems like u need the mind plus the know how with this like military no point having knowledge of shooting but no plan.
     
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    So let's place it out so it's easy to understand first of all. What the hell is involved here. The goal is to do something breach, defend and to get something(what that maybe may differ).

    Data seems to be center of all this which may come in many forms but data is like a pie you know the mince meat inside the pie imagine that as data and everything like the pastry is all the security to protect it. Mine meat can be any type of data or a mix. So what's the pastry?

    Security will happen at the hardware layer because you don't want some just walking in and gaining access or disrupting it there. It can happen at the operating system if it has bugs or exploits this where the data is hosted I guess you could see it as u know the floor foundation of a home? you got heaps of stuff on top of the floor don't you? well those are your apps(cushions, beds, sofas, fridge). These even need protecting as they can be designed badly or exploited.

    Network which is important also as it traffics data locally(switches) and globally(wan). It's like passing information between two people in a house(local) then to pass it across neighborhood(you could get attacked on the way to those houses or jumped). I guess secure connection think ensures you travel a route that is secured and they know the route or homes you need go thru are hardened and protected.

    But at the high level it's just hardware that translates electricity into hardware components and then hard drive has operating system and then it is networked to pass info over inside or outside. So it's main functions are hardware - software - network. Everything else falls underneath it or works across those areas in a criss cross fashion. You could put security at the high level also as it deals with all of them.
     
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    The operating system the foundation for apps, it has two faces. One needs to translate hardware electricity signals or else the apps and anything beyond such as networking won't even happen. The OS needs to be designed to talk to the hardware first and foremost(that's knowing how it works in electrical stage is critical). Once that is done now the OS can be designed to work and the apps just need to adapt itself to the OS, kinda like when you bring new furniture to your house, you need to make sure it adapts to the house, you not going to change the house for the furniture especially not some small app, maybe some big app but not the everyday stuff.

    Think about it, how can the operating system keep updating itself for 100 million apps? it would be unusuable, it needs to be stabilised and the apps told to adjust.

    I need to learn this stuff cause most of my field is heading big time towards here and it touches upon everything in IT. IT is like a car heaps of different functions but if u wanna secure a car u need to know it all. My field has evolved it aint innovation that is getting funds from govt or private industry, its security guys, they got a long career scope and if we dont adapt in IT we gonna be left behind. There isnt a huge focus to create new but secure existing stuff.

    I'd love if they dumped money into Innovation, that's ideas stuff which then gets handed to the doing guys to put together and it goes into production. That isn't what's happening in IT, they made it clear where their going the nation and it's security. Their dumping so much money into it, the investment outstrips the skills out there, CHING CHING CHING untill it gets full of again lol.

    Imagine how many grads being told do security and they gonna line up not many will get in for a while though or if they even do make it lol. Their only wanted when the skills arent available, they like to close the community where-ever the niche is so it isn't flooded with new supplies and keep the ching ching ching going.

    There no way your gonna convince any security guy to open the flood gates, it's just not gonna happen or any industry really where it's niche and short supply. It's not up for discussion. Keep it closed till we cant secure someone in the game and then go outside and get newbie.
     
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    If I get into security in the future, one of my objectives will to create security union or some body to unite the security guys and our policies, keep the flood gates closed looooooooool lets not jepordize our market niche with over supply.

    Always choose one of the boys(experience) looooooool keep it within the game, when he retires they will be short supply our dollar goes up. Yes corruption happens and it's a fact of life when interests or money or something valuable to people is on the line. We need plans to make security studies as hard as possible to get in.

    So security body of industries and govt we will talk about how we tell universities we want HIGH grade to get in so it shuts applicants away, high GPA or watever the grading score they use. Even if they do come thru, they will only get a job when it's at the bottom or something none of us want. We need to have some sort of communication line set up between us, once someone is kicked out we all update each other that he didnt ADAPT TO THE CULTURE.
     
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    Dont act like heros and saints, we all susceptible to corruption when it's in our interest, we just hate being on the receiving end lets be real about it. I would have no qualms having a body protecting my interest being formed to keep the game alive for us. So if u enter niche field somaliyay, remember to say how u believe in a tight knit community and being family and family comes first.

    Why u think trump has that pissed look on his face, he know the whole nation is corrupt and some worse then others. Meel ay dad ku kulman lagama waayo masuq ama is daba marin iyo waxasi si ay ilashada danahooda guud. It happens everywhere in the world dude, it's just more planned and detailed in the west not blatant like the 3rd world. U cant change humans.

    To keep an industry tight knight u need advisors in economics to know how to keep the supply low but replacing the boys who retire with the gold and in bahamas, cause you don't want them figuring out the game and fucking it up. At least when u have the steady pool(closed thru high gpa, closed thru high clearances, closed thru we need real experience not theory) u keep adding loop holes that wont be detected while u and the boys high five how u gonna keep being paid 200-300k a contract. U just the teach the new ones who come in, we have a culture here and we like to be tight knight, security guys first and foremost, adapt and adjust dont open up to new comers or break the bond. If he dont adjust sxb or is one of those fuckwits, he aint rising to the top and will make life hard for him to leave and update the body keep him out.

    Most jobs go to trusted ppl already in workplace who will recommend family, friend, etc who they will adjust into the culture, it's safer bet cause their friends and will adjust to the culture. Most of the shit in organizations are office politics, it's far off the visions and values of what was intended cause humans are humans and wont change.

    So Somalis adapt if I were you and stop the useless black lives matter or the human right cries of the left(who are the worst to do this) the right at least wont fuck around with value cause they wanna ensure they the bang for their buck, its the left who is corrupt as FUCKKKKKKKKK and all based on these stealth tactics and why I say their so fuckin dangerous.

    I used to think I was left wing untill I started working in the govt departments and their packed full(giving back to the community, hate profit types) it doesnt get more toxic then liberal workplaces. I am now not aligned to politics anymore but just results regardless of idealogy.
     
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    Conservatism its soul is just give me back something for my money, the rest is them reaching out to segments of people like the religious, nationalists, and other sub groups who hate liberals its only to boost their chance to win elections thru cross appeal but their soul is economics. Liberal soul is high values on paper but once u go in their industries it's very toxic and highly corrupt thru sophistication and PC and using the right words society like but their doing wild shit behind the scenes. No wonder why sxb most socialist govts or communist govt where the most dictatorships and rotten workplaces. In other words sxb these ppl are the smiling covert types.
     
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    Oh here we go again
     
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    Trump is like YEY bro, their open and sincere they may be rotten like we all are inside but they dont CONCEAL IT sxb, the left does or else tell me why their workplaces where they dominate is filth and toxic as hell?
     
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    yaanyuur nimankan liberalka lagu yirahdo waa sida hawiyaha oo ku oranayo 'somalinimo, midnimo, jecel, diinta ilaliya, somali lama taban karo, qawiil neceb, uuuuuuuf waa uraysa' loooooooool but their actions ' loot somali property, always plan policies to make mogadishu great and subjectate, keep somalis out of hamar so hawiye is strong and the govt, capital capital capital, invite shabab and let bakaraha give taxes so they keep up the fight so no somali tribe comes and eliminates them from bakaraha and takes the customers'. Always send a stooge with hawiye backing and qatari cash to install new leaders who support hawiyenimo and then talk about dasturka(2019 december) after PL election looooooool. Why? we wanna make mogadishu great again but they will hide in SOMALINIMO, FEDERAL DIID, SOMALI LAMA KALA GOYN KARO' ALLA QABIILKA NAGA DAAYA IYO ABAADKA..DAMN LIBERAL
     
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    Do you do cyber security for a living?
     
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    No but I studied IT and worked in it, didn't really do much cyber stuff just the usual operation keep the systems ticking over but we need to adjust the new realities, govts, private industries are dumping cash towards this side of IT and it's where the growth is till of course all the grads start studying IT and create a huge supply to kill it. IT evolves like any industry.

    IT ain't going anywhere bro it's just the supply labor needs to be managed especially around niche areas, let them go around the shitty oversupplied areas like programming, operations, and stuff.
     
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    IT sucks it is so boring. I am a software engineer at least i get to create something. I won't be sitting in a corner have people call me the IT guy.
     
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    Cyber security sounds boring, cyber warfare is much more enticing.
     
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