Contribution of Anime to Racial friction

[xLibaxsenderx]

Anime contributes to discriminatory mindset that melanated humans face and bolsters an attempt to revive racial discriminatory practices such as apartheid and segregation. It is overwhelmingly fairskinned characters depicted all across the spectrum of different genres, with no attention to historical accuracy, except ofcourse when it comes to the darker skinned representation. such obvious disregard for unity should be condemned and representation of all skin colour, hair colour and hair texture should be re-enforced.

 

[Nilotic]

Fikrad ayaan hayaa... why don't we create our own anime?

 

[Omar del Sur]

representation of all skin colour, hair colour and hair texture should be re-enforced.

so you want Japanese animators putting words into the mouths of black characters? dictating their words, thoughts and actions? and having them use black characters sort of like their puppets.... that would open up a whole new can of worms. and it isn't just black characters. Arabs, Latin Americans, Pakistanis.... I think it would be a problem for all sorts of cultures if Japanese started putting words, thoughts and actions into these characters. no thinking person from these cultures would be comfortable with it. I don't think it's appropriate for example that a Pakistani character should be in the domain of Japanese animators (at least not normally... it might be funny every now and then but that kind of stuff would be weird as a normal thing). and are we turn the anime companies into some sort of UN?

for example, wouldn't people here find it weird if they came out with an anime about Somalis and everyone behind the anime is Japanese? the main character is a Somali woman from Mogadishu and nobody who worked on the anime knows anything about Somalis or about Islam.

or we forcibly turn the Japanese anime industry into a UN? either way it gets weird.

It isn't exactly very social justicey that Japanese animators often go with European looking characters instead even of Asian looking characters..... but it's their product.... they can draw European looking characters if they want

 

[xLibaxsenderx]

so you want Japanese animators putting words into the mouths of black characters? dictating their words, thoughts and actions? and having them use black characters sort of like their puppets.... that would open up a whole new can of worms. and it isn't just black characters. Arabs, Latin Americans, Pakistanis.... I think it would be a problem for all sorts of cultures if Japanese started putting words, thoughts and actions into these characters. no thinking person from these cultures would be comfortable with it. I don't think it's appropriate for example that a Pakistani character should be in the domain of Japanese animators (at least not normally... it might be funny every now and then but that kind of stuff would be weird as a normal thing). and are we turn the anime companies into some sort of UN?

for example, wouldn't people here find it weird if they came out with an anime about Somalis and everyone behind the anime is Japanese? the main character is a Somali woman from Mogadishu and nobody who worked on the anime knows anything about Somalis or about Islam.

or we forcibly turn the Japanese anime industry into a UN? either way it gets weird.

It isn't exactly very social justicey that Japanese animators often go with European looking characters instead even of Asian looking characters..... but it's their product.... they can draw European looking characters if they want

I understand where you're coming from, but here's my rebuttal
If the japanese animators have no qualms in "puppeteering" characters of European appearance I simply want equality in doing the same for western population of Latinos, and blacks. What type of message does it send to kids when there watching an anime set in the future and the entirety of the characters are whiteskinned with coloured hair. Remember they are catering to a international audience and it should reflect that.

 

[Omar del Sur]

I understand where you're coming from, but here's my rebuttal
If the japanese animators have no qualms in "puppeteering" characters of European appearance I simply want equality in doing the same for western population of Latinos, and blacks. What type of message does it send to kids when there watching an anime set in the future and the entirety of the characters are whiteskinned with coloured hair. Remember they are catering to a international audience and it should reflect that.

Europeans allow drag queen story time in their children's schools. They are at the forefront of that kind of thing. They are not very concerned with preserving a particular culture and it seems questionable whether they really even have a culture. If some Japanese animators from Tokyo decide to make some wildly inaccurate anime about my culture.... I might find it hilarious and a bit flattering. But if it goes on consistently, I am bound to find it weird and inappropriate.

There would be a sort of parallel to blackface if we're talking about black characters. Blackface was whites portraying black characters. This would be similar just from Japanese.

I think the whole mentality is wrong. If you want cartoons to represent African culture, Latin culture, Arab culture, etc..... people from those cultures are perfectly capable of making their own cartoons. It seems self-abasing to expect Japanese to do it for them.

 

[Nilotic]

I understand where you're coming from, but here's my rebuttal
If the japanese animators have no qualms in "puppeteering" characters of European appearance I simply want equality in doing the same for western population of Latinos, and blacks. What type of message does it send to kids when there watching an anime set in the future and the entirety of the characters are whiteskinned with coloured hair. Remember they are catering to a international audience and it should reflect that.

Here's the difference... the Europeans elevated themselves economically, politically and scientifically-technologically, so it's somewhat understandable that they're being represented and valorised by others.

..We can do the same thing for ourselves, so the Japanese are not needed in this regard.

 

[Omar del Sur]

also if you really want to "nationalize" anime, just dub it in your language. by speaking your language, the characters can appear as proud representatives of whatever culture you want represented. maybe even change the dialogue a little to reflect your culture.

 

[xLibaxsenderx]

Europeans allow drag queen story time in their children's schools. They are at the forefront of that kind of thing. They are not very concerned with preserving a particular culture and it seems questionable whether they really even have a culture. If some Japanese animators from Tokyo decide to make some wildly inaccurate anime about my culture.... I might find it hilarious and a bit flattering. But if it goes on consistently, I am bound to find it weird and inappropriate.

There would be a sort of parallel to blackface if we're talking about black characters. Blackface was whites portraying black characters. This would be similar just from Japanese.

I think the whole mentality is wrong. If you want cartoons to represent African culture, Latin culture, Arab culture, etc..... people from those cultures are perfectly capable of making their own cartoons. It seems self-abasing to expect Japanese to do it for them.

I just wanna see consistency, if the japanese animators won't depict racially japanese characters for all their main characters, black hair and all, then dont even bother getting other races involved especially if your work is not confined to the borders of your country. Because this has an obvious affect on race relations in countries like america where its a melting pot and not one race, religion, history dominated.

 

[Okoj]

I used to have those exact thoughts too but I discovered a YouTube video and I don't see it that way anymore. They don't actually draw 'fair skinned' characters they are actually Japanese in their eyes.

 

[Omar del Sur]

I just wanna see consistency, if the japanese animators won't depict racially japanese characters for all their main characters, black hair and all, then dont even bother getting other races involved especially if your work is not confined to the borders of your country. Because this has an obvious affect on race relations in countries like america where it is one race.

I am not criticizing anyone or anything like that.... but he had a point in the sense of teaching self-reliance. If anime is really important to you, the aim should be to make your own anime- not to expect the Japanese to do it for you. It is inconsistent with having pride and confidence in your own culture to expect the Japanese to do it for you. The Arabs would never ask such a thing from the Japanese. Even Mexicans wouldn't ask for such a thing. Mexico historically had one of the biggest film industries in the world and Mexicans are proud of their own film industry.

 

[Nilotic]

I just wanna see consistency, if the japanese animators won't depict racially japanese characters for all their main characters, black hair and all, then dont even bother getting other races involved especially if your work is not confined to the borders of your country. Because this has an obvious affect on race relations in countries like america where its a melting pot and not one race, religion, history dominated.

You don't seem to understand that the world isn't equal but it is fair; if we were as strong as the West (in material terms), we would undoubtedly be better off in regards to representation.

I just don't see the need for other men to elevate our image when we're right here.

 

[xLibaxsenderx]

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I am not criticizing anyone or anything like that.... but he had a point in the sense of teaching self-reliance. If anime is really important to you, the aim should be to make your own anime- not to expect the Japanese to do it for you. It is inconsistent with having pride and confidence in your own culture to expect the Japanese to do it for you. The Arabs would never ask such a thing from the Japanese. Even Mexicans wouldn't ask for such a thing. Mexico historically had one of the biggest film industries in the world and Mexicans are proud of their own film industry.

You don't seem to understand that the world isn't equal but it is fair; if we were as strong as the West (in material terms), we would undoubtedly be better off in regards to representation.

I just don't see the need for other men to elevate our image when we're right here.

I personally don't find pleasure in anime anymore, I'm just calling out blatant conformity to white supremacy. Remember that a non white can be a greater advocate for white supremacy than some white people themselves

 

[Omar del Sur]

I personally don't find pleasure in anime anymore, I'm just calling out blatant conformity to white supremacy. Remember that a non white can be a greater advocate for white supremacy than some white people themselves

I don't talk about it a lot but I have cultural confidence. My culture has its own film industry. I don't even like it when white people make movies about my culture. We have our own film industry and we have plenty of our own movies. I have zero need to ask Japanese to do it for us and I would feel that it is an affront to my dignity to ask.

Now personally I don't watch movies and I'm frankly anti-movie. But if you're concerned about lack of Africans or blacks in movies, why don't you support African and black movies? Why not Nollywood movies for example or the movies from Ghana? There are lots of movies that have been made by African film-makers and tons from African-Americans if you want that viewpoint.

 

[xLibaxsenderx]

There more green and pink haired characters in anime then there are dark skinned characters

 

[NordicSomali]

The Japanese really like white features thats why you find pretty much all anime characters looking white.

But it's not all black = bad, hxh has lots of cool black characters, same with Naruto

 

[xLibaxsenderx]

The Japanese really like white features thats why you find pretty much all anime characters looking white.

But it's not all black = bad, hxh has lots of cool black characters, same with Naruto

I have noticed an attempt to diversify the characters, but the gap is far and wide from being closed.

 

[NordicSomali]

I have noticed an attempt to diversify the characters, but the gap is far and wide from being closed.

I think it's pretty difficult for a Manga artist to be successful internationally if they don't care about these things. They can't be negligent these days.

 

[Cosmo]

Fikrad ayaan hayaa... why don't we create our own anime?

Watch the Boondocks. Best black anime ever. Other afronime like Cannon Busters and Yasuke are dogshit tho. Thing is, it’s cool to want to make a series that represents your people, but if the writing is shit then what’s the point? That’s the issue with Cannon Busters and Yasuke, they have poor writing across the board

 

[Sophisticate]

Anime contributes to discriminatory mindset that melanated humans face and bolsters an attempt to revive racial discriminatory practices such as apartheid and segregation. It is overwhelmingly fairskinned characters depicted all across the spectrum of different genres, with no attention to historical accuracy, except ofcourse when it comes to the darker skinned representation. such obvious disregard for unity should be condemned and representation of all skin colour, hair colour and hair texture should be re-enforced.

No human has eyes that wide, naturally teal, blue, green, purple, or pink hair, or a nearly non-existent triangle nose and a poreless face. There is nothing true to life about Anime so who cares. Rarely do the creators look like their characters and neither do cadaans (who wished they did) and egotistically assume anime characters bear their likeness.