In my last thread I feel I was wildly misunderstood by many people. I'm gonna clarify myself here and then end this gender topic forever. It's kinda long but i know the people whose opinion I care about will read it all.
So from the last thread I learned that
Some people will misconstrue objective analysis for personal frustration
Despite what you're saying being an objective macro-level analysis of societal phenomena, many people will automatically personalize it and assume ur writing a manifesto inspired by your personal frustrations lol. I can't count how many people in the other thread assumed I have trouble getting a Somali girl. I think it's because some people can’t fathom someone having an interest in and exerting so much energy in expounding upon a problem that does not affect them on a personal level. If an affluent business owner reads up on the evils of unfettered capitalism and then goes on an anonymous forum and starts writing about how immoral the wealth gap has become, many people would assume he was some working class schlub who is bitter about his lot in life. Just because they themselves are selfish they assume others are as well and thus can’t imagine a well-to-do man advocating on behalf of those less fortunate. It’s classic projection. So the people telling me I must be bitter because I can’t bag a Somali girl are the same ones who don’t give a shit about our community, for them as long as they’re personally good then to hell with the collective.
Some Clarifications
I wasn’t putting Somali women on a pedestal
I don’t believe Somali girls in the West are doing better than Somali guys. I can only speak definitively about Canada, and over here they have the same lifestyles and habits as the guys. We have some that are respectable girls who conduct themselves with class and some who are the opposite, the same goes for the boys. The only difference is more Somali women are getting degrees and finding white collar employment than the guys. I didn’t bring this fact up in the other thread to praise Somali girls (most of their education is nothing but feminist/leftist brainwashing anyway), I brought it up because this imbalance will create compatibility issues when it comes to marriage since women will expect the guy to ideally be at least on the same level as her credentials/career wise.
Why was I addressing Somali men and not Somali women if the women aren’t doing any better?
I was addressing Somali guys for two reasons. First reason is because women are not loyal to the in-group, while most men are. So it’s only logical to address the gender whose interested in stopping the other gender from marrying out, that being the men. The reason women don’t have an innate sense of loyalty to the in-group is because they’ve evolved (or been designed) to be able to quickly switch allegiances and join enemy tribes and ethnicities when their men are vanquished during war. For a relatively recent example read up on French women and German soldiers after the Nazis conquered France during WW2 which @supz brought up in the other thread. Men are vanquished by other men in many different ways, not just on the battle field, and unfortunately for men the hind-brain of women can’t tell the difference, and that’s how you get things like the East Asian woman-White man phenomenon. East Asian men have been defeated symbolically by White men.
I think the reason men hate it when their women marry out is because they understand on a subconscious level that women are more valuable than men from a reproductive point of view. If a village has all of its men killed off except one, that one man can hypothetically impregnate all of the young women and the village would be repopulated. If a village has all of its women killed except one, then the village people will be close to extinction within some decades since there are only so many kids one woman can have. This is why men are expendable and can be sent off to war to be killed in the thousands or millions, while women are always kept safe and far from danger. Losing a female to another group necessarily entails a loss of population potential for you own group, while a male venturing out is inconsequential because another male can easily take on his reproductive burden.
The second reason why I addressed Somali guys and not the girls is because women are the selectors in the mating game. Since they have inherent worth due to their precious eggs women don’t need to do or achieve anything for them to be sought after by men. In fact it’s what they don’t do (like being promiscuous) that matters and allows them to retain their value. But because men don’t have this inherent value, since sperm is so cheap, they have to compete with other men and achieve things to earn value and be selected by women. So it would only make sense that I would address the gender that has to actually do things to get what they want instead of the gender who can get it by just existing.
Concluding remarks
Of course not all of our girls hold us in low esteem and only a minority of them marry out. But we can’t deny that there is a problem, at least in my country of Canada, and if it isn’t addressed things can only get worse. The issues I mentioned in the other thread like the death of patriarchy, the degree/career imbalance between Somali girl and guys, the increasing importance of male looks as a result of women’s financial independence, globalization and social media exposing women to men of many different ethnicities from which they can choose and the impact of media in creating appeal only for certain groups of men at the expense of others all play a major role in the choices of women, including Somali women. This is just a birds-eye view of the situation in my view, and we as Somali men in the West should try and improve in the areas we can control so we can move up in the social and dominance hierarchies. We should repudiate crime and gang-banging, hit the gym, dress well, do well in school, get careers, create businesses etc.
So from the last thread I learned that
Some people will misconstrue objective analysis for personal frustration
Despite what you're saying being an objective macro-level analysis of societal phenomena, many people will automatically personalize it and assume ur writing a manifesto inspired by your personal frustrations lol. I can't count how many people in the other thread assumed I have trouble getting a Somali girl. I think it's because some people can’t fathom someone having an interest in and exerting so much energy in expounding upon a problem that does not affect them on a personal level. If an affluent business owner reads up on the evils of unfettered capitalism and then goes on an anonymous forum and starts writing about how immoral the wealth gap has become, many people would assume he was some working class schlub who is bitter about his lot in life. Just because they themselves are selfish they assume others are as well and thus can’t imagine a well-to-do man advocating on behalf of those less fortunate. It’s classic projection. So the people telling me I must be bitter because I can’t bag a Somali girl are the same ones who don’t give a shit about our community, for them as long as they’re personally good then to hell with the collective.
Some Clarifications
I wasn’t putting Somali women on a pedestal
I don’t believe Somali girls in the West are doing better than Somali guys. I can only speak definitively about Canada, and over here they have the same lifestyles and habits as the guys. We have some that are respectable girls who conduct themselves with class and some who are the opposite, the same goes for the boys. The only difference is more Somali women are getting degrees and finding white collar employment than the guys. I didn’t bring this fact up in the other thread to praise Somali girls (most of their education is nothing but feminist/leftist brainwashing anyway), I brought it up because this imbalance will create compatibility issues when it comes to marriage since women will expect the guy to ideally be at least on the same level as her credentials/career wise.
Why was I addressing Somali men and not Somali women if the women aren’t doing any better?
I was addressing Somali guys for two reasons. First reason is because women are not loyal to the in-group, while most men are. So it’s only logical to address the gender whose interested in stopping the other gender from marrying out, that being the men. The reason women don’t have an innate sense of loyalty to the in-group is because they’ve evolved (or been designed) to be able to quickly switch allegiances and join enemy tribes and ethnicities when their men are vanquished during war. For a relatively recent example read up on French women and German soldiers after the Nazis conquered France during WW2 which @supz brought up in the other thread. Men are vanquished by other men in many different ways, not just on the battle field, and unfortunately for men the hind-brain of women can’t tell the difference, and that’s how you get things like the East Asian woman-White man phenomenon. East Asian men have been defeated symbolically by White men.
I think the reason men hate it when their women marry out is because they understand on a subconscious level that women are more valuable than men from a reproductive point of view. If a village has all of its men killed off except one, that one man can hypothetically impregnate all of the young women and the village would be repopulated. If a village has all of its women killed except one, then the village people will be close to extinction within some decades since there are only so many kids one woman can have. This is why men are expendable and can be sent off to war to be killed in the thousands or millions, while women are always kept safe and far from danger. Losing a female to another group necessarily entails a loss of population potential for you own group, while a male venturing out is inconsequential because another male can easily take on his reproductive burden.
The second reason why I addressed Somali guys and not the girls is because women are the selectors in the mating game. Since they have inherent worth due to their precious eggs women don’t need to do or achieve anything for them to be sought after by men. In fact it’s what they don’t do (like being promiscuous) that matters and allows them to retain their value. But because men don’t have this inherent value, since sperm is so cheap, they have to compete with other men and achieve things to earn value and be selected by women. So it would only make sense that I would address the gender that has to actually do things to get what they want instead of the gender who can get it by just existing.
Concluding remarks
Of course not all of our girls hold us in low esteem and only a minority of them marry out. But we can’t deny that there is a problem, at least in my country of Canada, and if it isn’t addressed things can only get worse. The issues I mentioned in the other thread like the death of patriarchy, the degree/career imbalance between Somali girl and guys, the increasing importance of male looks as a result of women’s financial independence, globalization and social media exposing women to men of many different ethnicities from which they can choose and the impact of media in creating appeal only for certain groups of men at the expense of others all play a major role in the choices of women, including Somali women. This is just a birds-eye view of the situation in my view, and we as Somali men in the West should try and improve in the areas we can control so we can move up in the social and dominance hierarchies. We should repudiate crime and gang-banging, hit the gym, dress well, do well in school, get careers, create businesses etc.
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I especially liked the part about the British class system. Rageedi.
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