Citizenship 101 for the armchair politicians

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Some of you falsely think that being a "patriot" involves sticking your nose in the affairs of Federal States which are thousands of KMs away from your local village/town/city.

Some of you think that the "President" of the country or a Federal state is responsible for every minutiae of Governance.

You may not realise it but that is largely a part of why corruption runs rampant in Somalia; pure ignorance of how a Government actually operates.

PARLIAMENT

Your IMMEDIATE "leader" or "representative" is an MP, who is handpicked by your clan elder. Do you know his or her name? Do you realise that this person takes a salary every month and makes decisions WITHOUT consulting their constituents? Do you realise that your people are actually being dictated to by a clan elder who has power handed to him due to his lineage and NOT his competence? Does it scare you that he chooses an MP WITHOUT consulting his clan constituents?

LOCAL COUNCILS

Your other "immediate" overlord is your city district's representative, this person is usually either selected by the Clan elder, again or selected by other city/town district representatives.
Again, this person takes a salary which is supplied by the taxes collected from locals. This person along with his/her colleagues are responsible for ensuring the town/city is governed appropriately.

DO YOU KNOW WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE?

Do you actually know what your citizenship duties consist of?

1) Learn what citizenship actually means
2) Stay informed of the issues affecting your IMMEDIATE community.
3) Participate in your IMMEDIATE community.
4) Pay taxes, if you're in the diaspora, send back remittances.



Or you can sit online googling information about a Federal State which you are not a member of whilst your poor relatives are robbed blind by the clan leader, the local leaders, the MP etc. Google images of your ancestral village and then tell me if you still feel like NOT minding your own business.

 

[Inquisitive_]

Tell us since your the self anointed champion of federalism and citizenry, an example of the following happening anywhere in the world regarding federal states.


1) Federal state leader being summoned by foreign countries in defiance of the federal government like lowly puppeteers to reveal state secrets under the guise of supposed bilateral trade, cite an example anywhere this happens in the world.


2) Federal state that publicly lambasts every national government that has ever come about (except founder C/Yusuf), show me anywhere else in the world this happens, were a lowly federal leader repeatedly comes out against every national government.


3) Federal state leader opposed to the formation of national border guards in defiance of SFG and want to delegate this matter to a foreign government and arch enemy Ethiopia instead.


4) Federal state whom claims in it's dastuur absolute sovereignty for 8 gobols, 2 of which are made up and 4 for which she doesn't rule, cite me any example of any federal state in the world were this type of lunacy happens.


5) Federal state leader selling strategic national assets built for by the taxes of all the people, to a foreign government without any SFG oversight or even federal parliament oversight, cite me any examples were this happened anywhere in this world.



I will stop there for now, but can easily continue beyond the 1000 mark, but I doubt you have the intellectual acumen or fortitude to even answer them.

The reason your leadership is singled out by virtually every Somali up and down the country is the depth of treachery, the gross conflict of interest in your elites circles which just as Ethiopia/Kenya see's a strong united Somali state as an antipathy and threat to their very existence, and in your unique case a threat to the profitable coffers that are drying up fast hence the intensity of the calaacal lately.

Your choices are simple! You either come out against it, or become a useful idiot dupe and support this hence face the wrath of the people.

 

[DrippinglyWet]

Me and 15 million+ other Somalis did not choose for federalism, a referendum should be held about federalism and the whole constitution. How can old elders dictate how a country where the majority is under 25 be run?

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

If you were a sentient being, you would understand that local affairs are far more important and relevant to your existence and the future of the constituents of Galmudug.

What is the name of your village/town's MP? Does he actually consult the locals when he votes? Just recently, the parliament voted against the proposal for the Somali Army. Do you even know if your LOCAL MP voted yes or no?

Who pays for the education of your village's school children? Do you even know how taxes are being spent?

Do you know anything relevant pertaining Galmudug or Bandiiradley or whatever village you hail from?

Those in the advanced world, are ahead of us, because they actually care about the things that matter.
Meanwhile... "Gaas... Bermuda Triangle... Russia".

 

[Inquisitive_]

Me and 15 million+ other Somali did not choice for federalism, a referendum should be held about federalism and the whole constitution. How can old elders dictate how a country where the majority is under 25 be run?

Federalism was brought to the country courtesy of Ethiopia and the greatest champion for this project was Puntland leadership, they have managed to literally force it down the throat of others.

The problem was that Ethiopia and the P/land leadership had different goals with this federalism project, Ethiopia's goal was to simply ensure status quo was never removed and simply play off one state against the other to keep Somalia forever from uniting.

Puntland leadership supported this because they believed that through this and by playing the Daroodism card they could catapult themselves towards leadership, I wouldn't have even mind this if there was a genuine untainted nationalist candidate presented, but none was, its impossible in such an environment!

This dangerous game almost revived the whole sickening qabyaalad disease that laid dormant but it was from the mercy of Allah that it began to backfire, Madoobe rejected them, so did the people of Caabudwaaq/Gedo and Sool, hence the elitist switched back to plan B which is the destruction of Somalia.

The issue here is not qabiilism, but conflict of interest which is 1000x more dangerous then the former, an elitist parasite group was born on the backs of the suffering off the entire nation and on the backs of national strategic state assets.

A strong Somali state will make all equal which they don't want, I posted a thread about this were Gaas literally said "how dare you make us equal' regarding foreign aid allocations, hence their interests are the same as Kenya/Ethiopia, this is why I relentlessly attack these elites for it.

The only person whom took those cards out of their hands was the equally corrupt HSM, seeing how he was check-mated early on, he did an Erdogan against the Kemalist, when Erdogan first came to power he played a great game to isolate the kemalist by becoming more pro EU then the secular Kemalist themselves and when the time was ripe, slowly got rid of them one-by-one.

Hence HSM pupeteered for Ethiopia harder then Puntland and in the end come out on top in this battle, they even moved shabab to P/land to silence CC UAE puppeteering and openly campaigned for his election, this prompted P/land vice president and several ministers to come out speaking against Ethiopia, especially Gabre after he beat them to the punch.

There is only two ways to beat people like this, you either take the HSM/Erdogan approach and wrestle in the mud with them and become more pro Ethiopia then they are to isolate them completely then slowly destroy them, or you take the more risky Farmaajo direct approach by appealing to the people and nationalism.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

^
See. He doesn't know anything relevant that pertains to local governance of Galmudug, let alone his ancestral village.
He thinks that REAL development; waste management, education, road maintenance, paying police salaries on time etc. etc. are NOT relevant.

What's more important is ranting and raving about a system that was voted in by his OWN MP. Fariid, halkaa ka wad.

Or maybe he thinks that President Gaas is his MP.

 

[Gilgamesh]

Somalia currently state mimics the infancy of the USA when it was ruled under the Articles of Confederation. The early founders of the USA realised the problems this system created and quickly rewrote the Constitution to give the central government more powers. Over the following centuries it continued to gain more power over the states. All countries naturally gravitate towards centralisation and Somalia is no exception. The current setup in Somalia is unsustainable in the long run in running a modern nation and the Somali Federal government will be forced to exert ultimate supremacy over the federal states. It's only a question of, if it will happen peacefully or through force.

 

[Mumin]

Women should not be in politics they would not stay on the budget everytime there would be deficit in the budget.

Males are naturally born leaders that can close billion dollars worth of deals and make surplus on the budget.

Women stay home and raise your children this is mans world.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Women should not be in politics they would not stay on the budget everytime there would be deficit in the budget.

Males are naturally born leaders that can close billion dollars worth of deals and make surplus on the budget.

Women stay home and raise your children this is mans world.

Leaders do not attack each other like baboons, as is displayed in this very topic. The Somali male is truly an awe-inspiring alpha!

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

@PuntiteQueen Iska ilow, these people would rather stalk Gaas then worry about the real issues. Where did Gaas go? Where did he shit this morning? what did he eat last night? Who holds these corrupt MPs accountable who just refused the formation of an army? They rather have Bantu Amison soldiers then a Somali federal army. How about Shabaab, Corruption, Droughts, Poverty etc and the many other problems we got? Waxaan waa imtaxaan I urge more puntite to join the growing PIM and be done with these people

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

@PuntiteQueen Iska ilow, these people would rather stalk Gaas then worry about the real issues. Where did Gaas go? Where did he shit this morning? what did he eat last night? Who holds these corrupt MPs accountable who just refused the formation of an army? They rather have Bantu Amison soldiers then a Somali federal army. How about Shabaab, Corruption, Droughts, Poverty etc and the many other problems we got? Waxaan waa imtaxaan I urge more puntite to join the growing PIM and be done with these people

They know the MPs and the clan elders are the root problem but their hate for Puntland is more important.
PIM will be necessary if this deranged trend continues;

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

Me and 15 million+ other Somalis did not choose for federalism, a referendum should be held about federalism and the whole constitution. How can old elders dictate how a country where the majority is under 25 be run?

Sxb, if Erdogan could destroy the Anti-Islam system created by Mustafa Kamel, then it will only be a matter of time when we will destroy this federalism facade forced upon Somalis without their consultation.

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

They know the MPs and the clan elders are the root problem but their hate for Puntland is more important.
PIM will be necessary if this deranged trend continues;

It will continue, i say let them have their beloved central system and we go our separate ways. After all, midnimada umaada somaliyeed is not a verse in the Quran

 

[Mumin]

Leaders do not attack each other like baboons, as is displayed in this very topic. The Somali male is truly an awe-inspiring alpha!

 

[Gambar]

^
See. He doesn't know anything relevant that pertains to local governance of Galmudug, let alone his ancestral village.
He thinks that REAL development; waste management, education, road maintenance, paying police salaries on time etc. etc. are NOT relevant.

What's more important is ranting and raving about a system that was voted in by his OWN MP. Fariid, halkaa ka wad.

Or maybe he thinks that President Gaas is his MP.

Actually let's just call it what it is, he's obsessed with Majerteen and specifically Mohamoud Saleeban. He's convinced himself it's an obsession because apparently he has family members from that subclan and apparently Hawiye men intermarry a lot with MS men (he's hoping to find one for himself). So he thinks he has inside info on MS. He's just an obsessed fan.

 

[Lord Flacko]

@PuntiteQueen

Does people discussing politics and such related to Somalia really hurt you that much? Does people disliking Gaas really boil your blood?


But let it be. Since your logic is that I everybody should mind their business and only care about their own tuulo, I'm looking forward to seeing you and everybody that liked your post never talk about anything that isn't your own business. As for you Puntland Ictiiraf folks, that includes the Federal Government.


So no more Isaaq, Hawiye, Darood or FG calacaal from @PuntiteQueen @Abdalla @Boqor Quark Boqor Cisman @Gambar etc. Wonderful

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Actually let's just call it what it is, he's obsessed with Majerteen and specifically Mohamoud Saleeban. He's convinced himself it's an obsession because apparently he has family members from that subclan and apparently Hawiye men intermarry a lot with MS men (he's hoping to find one for himself). So he thinks he has inside info on MS. He's just an obsessed fan.

& He has an army of boys following him around this forum who can't formulate an original thought between them.
Thankfully I have them on ignore so I can't see their gibberish.
I honestly tried to instigate a discussion about the real issues in Somalia, which is mostly affected by corruption within local governance and the parliament, but NO! They'd rather focus on Puntland and other nonsense.

Oh well.

 

[DrippinglyWet]

& He has an army of boys following him around this forum who can't formulate an original thought between them.
Thankfully I have them on ignore so I can't see their gibberish.
I honestly tried to instigate some honest discussion about the real issues in Somalia, which is mostly affected by corruption within local governance and the parliament but NO. They'd rather focus on Puntland and other nonsense.

Oh well.

You're to afraid of a discussion that would debunk all your crazy accusation.

Pic related is you.

 

[TooMacaan]

I feel so lost. Don't know who I agree with yet; I need to keep up with the diff. perspectives.

 

[Abdalla]

The talks between folks in Galmudug and Ahlu Sunnah failed miserably due to some petty stuff as what name should they get if they fused.


Their people can't agree on what name they should get and yet are obsessed about what others are doing