CIA: Israel participation in the Somali Civil war
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Also interesting from the file is how Ethiopia used SPDF force to target Somalis forces in the Galbeed.
"Yusuf's forces have been used by the Ethiopians in limited combat against Somali guerrillas--the Western Somali Liberation Front (WSLF)--in the Ogaden and have conducted minor harassment in the border area of northern Somalia."
PS: Please don't derail thread based.
"Yusuf's forces have been used by the Ethiopians in limited combat against Somali guerrillas--the Western Somali Liberation Front (WSLF)--in the Ogaden and have conducted minor harassment in the border area of northern Somalia."
PS: Please don't derail thread based.
Riftvalley
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Dirty black Zionists.
What about this post gave u the impression that heās āblaming others for our own failuresā?
CIA would have mention that, it's not so surprise for Somali opposition to have had connection and support from Israel, this is something that country is known for, they are involved in everywhere.There was no relationship with that nation. Ethiopia was receiving military assistance and millions in weapons from them. Ethiopia also provided some early support for rebel groups. This doesn't mean Somalis were directly getting help from.
This post was no way posted to blame Israel, but to acknowledge the support it gave to Somali opposition to the barre Era.
You're conflating different things. Ethiopia receiving weapons and support from them which in turn also helped Ethiopia support rebel groups does not mean there was a direct connection. You cannot find any actual link between them.
This is like conspiracy theory level, it doesn't even make sense for them to have any actual interest in Somalia to interfere.
"The participants at the Addis Ababa session will include longtime political exiles and military officers involved in the coup attempt against Siad last April. The political members of this group formed the core of the Somali Democratic Action Front, a political organization that has received limited support from Ethiopia and Israel."
I don't think you read the text, cause it clearly says Somali Democratic Action Front got support from both Ethiopia and Israel, meaning a direct connection between Somalis opposition and Israel.
Alliances, Ethiopia at the time was pro Soviet, and Israel needed a group that was willing to work with them in the Horn of Africa. Adding Somalia is part of the Arab league.
Idilinaa
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I wouldn't even call it a civil war, it was more accurately a proxy conflict. All those groups mentioned were proxies.
I already made thread on this how their support for Ethiopia and their destabilization efforts against Somalia is an extension of their Greater Isreal agenda and weakening arabi/muslim political unity
and here is an article that investigates Isreals involvement.
www.geeska.com
I already made thread on this how their support for Ethiopia and their destabilization efforts against Somalia is an extension of their Greater Isreal agenda and weakening arabi/muslim political unity
Greater Israel Explained: The Israeli Plan to Conquer the Arab World (Somalia ties into this i'll explain)
It was clear from the start but they are becoming more brazen. InshaAllah it backfires on them. Other times they had plausible deniability on their side , or claiming a letter is fake or what have you. But when you have top ministers within your government caught on camera openly professing...
www.somalispot.com
and here is an article that investigates Isreals involvement.
Israel, Ethiopia and the Somali question
Israel viewed Somali nationalism as a threat across the Horn of Africa and secretly collaborated with Ethiopia to contain it.
www.geeska.com
What is so hard about acknowledging this and how is it some conspiracies? If you can't trust a direct link documented by the CIA, i don't think you would trust anything.Believe what you want, I don't even care. You cannot find a direct link, just random assumptions and tinfoil hat conspiracies. Might as well go further, the whole world was involved too.
FYP: Israel is known to participate in different wars around the globe including in Africa, Asia and In the Americans.
"Since then, the list of countries Israel has supplied, trained and advised includes Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Colombia, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru and Venezuela."
Israelās Latin American trail of terror
āI learned an infinite amount of things in Israel, and to that country I owe part of my essence, my human and military achievementsā said Colombian paramilitary leader and indicted drug trafficker Carlos Castao in his ghostwritten autobiography, Mi Confesin.
Proxies kulaha. It's very dishonest to reduce groups fighting an authoritarian regime down to just being a proxy. For many there were legitimate grievances that inspired their fight. Just because they took foreign support does not just make them only a proxy. Every civil war has different actors with different motives.I wouldn't even call it a civil war, it was more accurately a proxy conflict. All those groups mentioned were proxies.
I already made thread on this how their support for Ethiopia and their destabilization efforts against Somalia is an extension of their Greater Isreal agenda and weakening arabi/muslim political unity
Greater Israel Explained: The Israeli Plan to Conquer the Arab World (Somalia ties into this i'll explain)
It was clear from the start but they are becoming more brazen. InshaAllah it backfires on them. Other times they had plausible deniability on their side , or claiming a letter is fake or what have you. But when you have top ministers within your government caught on camera openly professing...www.somalispot.com
and here is an article that investigates Isreals involvement.
Israel, Ethiopia and the Somali question
Israel viewed Somali nationalism as a threat across the Horn of Africa and secretly collaborated with Ethiopia to contain it.
We ?
Most people in this forum are qoxotis who only went back home once, and there's no "We", its never as simple as that
No he's right, Somalis need to move on. We are our own biggest enemies. The biggest contributing factor to the state of the country is our people.We ?
Most people in this forum are qoxotis who only went back home once, and there's no "We", its never as simple as that
Someone has to blame their mooryan adeer but it sure as hell aint me
Idilinaa
VIP
They were proxies. Ethiopia itself classified them as such in their military archives.
Ethiopian intelligence referred to the SNM and SSDF as Project 6A and Project 6B.
I broke all this down in a different thread.
This part here too:
The SSDF leadership itself was manipulated and restructured directly by Colonel Moges, an Ethiopian officer, who even removed Abdullahi Yusuf unilaterally. If you're supposedly leading a Somali liberation group and youāre being appointed and dismissed by Ethiopian colonels you are not a sovereign force, you're a client.
You can argue back and forth all day, but if it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck , itās a duck.
SSDF, SNM, etc. were proxy groups because they were created, trained, funded, and commanded by foreign powers. They didnāt just accept help , they were built to serve outside agendas.
āLegitimate grievances,ā kulaha.
Tell that to the choir . Iām sure theyāll be moved.
And seriously, what kind of civil war has an opposition thatās headquartered outside the country, fails to rally any serious domestic support, and functions entirely at the mercy of its foreign sponsors?
SNM was not created by Ethiopia beenta iska jooji
Did Ethiopia fund the SNM to destabilize Somalia ? Yes.
Did Ethiopia create it ? No.
There is a big difference, the relationship SNM had with Derg was that of mutual benefit.
During apartheid, the ANC received support and help from various nations. It had members and HQ in different countries. We're they also a proxy
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