China could INVADE Taiwan by end of year warns US

Read the battle of Gallipoli and then come back to me.

Taking an area from one coast point is a suicide mission. China will find it difficult to cross the ocean and will get picked off by Taiwanese missiles/planes. Those that make it to shore will get battered by machine guns.
Whether China is successful or not is a different story, But China will sacrifice it all to get Taiwan, to them Taiwan is China, and USA aggresive relationship making it worse

It will happen in our lifetime very soon, denial or not, been planned already
 

Periplus

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Whether China is successful or not is a different story, But China will sacrifice it all to get Taiwan, to them Taiwan is China, and USA aggresive relationship making it worse

It will happen in our lifetime very soon, denial or not, been planned already

Maybe they will but the Chinese military will be embarrassed. Even if they eventually take Taiwan, they will be remembered for getting smoked by small Taiwan.
 
Taiwan is supported by Japan, as Japan has Islands just of the coast of Taiwan. Either ways I think China will invade Taiwan when the time is right.
 
You are talking like Taiwan doesn’t have world class missile defence systems.

China cannot afford to lose well trained soldiers by the hundreds of thousands when they have a massive border to defend and a population to keep in control.

Plus their demographics are declining massively, they can’t lose that many young men on a pointless conflict.
Everything you said of China is double true for Taiwan. They’d destroy that Island.

China spends about 25 times more on its military and has a clear conventional edge on everything from missiles and fighter jets to warships and troop level, not to mention its nuclear arsenal.

There is no scenario you can imagine or conjure up that won’t see Taiwan on its knees. I don’t see how this is even argument.
 

Periplus

Min Al-Nahr ila Al-Ba7r
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a billion people can’t lose tens of thousands :pachah1::mjlol:

Tens of thousands is a lowball estimate.

They will probably lose 100K of their best trained troops in the first month or two, according to some.

That’s more than 10% of their army. Plus if you look at the stats, China can’t afford to lose 10 people let alone 10K.
 

Periplus

Min Al-Nahr ila Al-Ba7r
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Everything you said of China is double true for Taiwan. They’d destroy that Island.

China spends about 25 times more on its military and has a clear conventional edge on everything from missiles and fighter jets to warships and troop level, not to mention its nuclear arsenal.

There is no scenario you can imagine or conjure up that won’t see Taiwan on its knees. I don’t see how this is even argument.

Listen closely.

Trying to do a ground invasion in Taiwan is like trying to get into a door.

Sounds easy?

Now imagine that door has an automatic machine gun that’s shooting at anyone that comes near it.

You will probably get through the door but you will lose a lot of people trying to do so.

If that example doesn’t work, imagine the glass bridge in Squid game.
 
Listen closely.

Trying to do a ground invasion in Taiwan is like trying to get into a door.

Sounds easy?

Now imagine that door has an automatic machine gun that’s shooting at anyone that comes near it.

You will probably get through the door but you will lose a lot of people trying to do so.

If that example doesn’t work, imagine the glass bridge in Squid game.
I get that. But when China make a move, they're going to do it in such a way that all the conditions are the most favorable to them.

Prior to them invading, cyber and electronic warfare units would target Taiwan’s financial system and key infrastructure. Chinese vessels would also fuxk up ships around Taiwan, restricting supplies of fuel and food.

Your right about 1 thing. It’s unlikely Beijing could quickly destroy all of Taiwan defensive weaponry. With thousands of surface to air missiles and anti-aircraft guns, Taiwan would inflict heavy losses on the Chinese invasion force before it even reached the main island.

But inevitably, China is way too strong.
 

Periplus

Min Al-Nahr ila Al-Ba7r
VIP
I get that. But when China make a move, they're going to do it in such a way that all the conditions are the most favorable to them.

Prior to them invading, cyber and electronic warfare units would target Taiwan’s financial system and key infrastructure. Chinese vessels would also fuxk up ships around Taiwan, restricting supplies of fuel and food.

Your right about 1 thing. It’s unlikely Beijing could quickly destroy all of Taiwan defensive weaponry. With thousands of surface to air missiles and anti-aircraft guns, Taiwan would inflict heavy losses on the Chinese invasion force before it even reached the main island.

But inevitably, China is way too strong.

China will eventually overcome the Taiwanese defences but the PR of the initial slaughter will ruin their military’s image.

Plus most Chinese families have one child, I’m not too sure parents will be happy sending them off to a war in which they’re getting slaughtered in.

So reinforcements will be difficult.
 
If an invasion does a occur by china. The americans will blow up all the business in taiwan that deals with semiconductors, and grant citizenship to the brains of the industry. Like they did to the gifted german in ww2.

Only then can china have taiwan, and by then it will be in ruins due to the ongoing conflict, and paid rebel movements.
 

Aurelian

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An island that is armoured and armed to its teeth and on top of that, they are the main source of high quality of microchip that the whole world including china relays on. China will face a huge defeat and will make herself a pariah to its western market by doing this stupid thing and for causing a big economic disaster to the whole world. This isn’t about china and Taiwan but about everyone in this planet. This will be our problem as well.

The EU is working on its addition on china, Russia open the eyes of the EU.
 
I get that. But when China make a move, they're going to do it in such a way that all the conditions are the most favorable to them.

Prior to them invading, cyber and electronic warfare units would target Taiwan’s financial system and key infrastructure. Chinese vessels would also fuxk up ships around Taiwan, restricting supplies of fuel and food.

Your right about 1 thing. It’s unlikely Beijing could quickly destroy all of Taiwan defensive weaponry. With thousands of surface to air missiles and anti-aircraft guns, Taiwan would inflict heavy losses on the Chinese invasion force before it even reached the main island.

But inevitably, China is way too strong.
 
China is not in a position to invade yet, winnie the pooh is going to ruin china's long standing plans made as early as deng xiopings and jiang zenin in the 90s.
The plan was always to move towards internal consumption instead of export oriented development by the mid 2000s they are late by over 20 years due to greed.


Taiwan would be dealt with by the 2040s when they would have secured the one belt one road , new silk road by the meaning secure energy ,minerals and critical food imports like animal feed which are fully vulnerable to US naval interdiction today.

Xi xing ping that moron looks like he will end the communist party of China when he loses spectacularly and mass starvation and collapse happens within 6 months of war.

All he had to do was stick with the plan made by people allot wiser and smarter the him , ego comes I to the picture.

A conflict today will show the qualitative advantage in training and experience of the US and allies against china's numbers and industrial capacity.

The US and allies are fragile however because the elite veterens cannot be replaced easily and new recruits into Nato, Japan and Taiwan will be as terrible as the Chinese recruits .

Morale problems will have different sources but lead to similar results for the Chinese and Western allies.

For the Chinese it's the little emperor syndrome, we have never seen an army of single children households.
There is every indication that they would be shit fighters. People need string family and community to make good soldiers that are willing to die.

For the West the next generation of recruits are already showing signs of being really really bad.
Experienced vetrens that you desperately need to retain so they can train the next generation and allow inheritance of military culture are right now leaving in droves due to hostile work environment.
The US armed forces are going woke 😆,
Europeans are further along the road to decay except for Poland which is still pretty much macho and has large manpower reserves of real men.

My predictions for the next 5 years is a disaster for China, collapse if they fight.
Even with victory it will be a Suez moment for the US and officially herald the end of super power status.
 
An island that is armoured and armed to its teeth and on top of that, they are the main source of high quality of microchip that the whole world including china relays on. China will face a huge defeat and will make herself a pariah to its western market by doing this stupid thing and for causing a big economic disaster to the whole world. This isn’t about china and Taiwan but about everyone in this planet. This will be our problem as well.

The EU is working on its addition on china, Russia open the eyes of the EU.
China will lose due to its deficiencies not Taiwan.
The US has been handicapping Taiwan for decades because of fears of double agents and mainland infiltration.
It prevented essential weapons exports to Taiwan and sabotaged Taiwanese defence industry that was 20 years ahead of South Korea and equal to Japan in quality during the 90s.

Todays Taiwanese military is in terrible shape and is worse trained than mainland Chinese..
 
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