Centralism could maybe work under capitalism?

Espaa_

Ku sali nabiga {scw}
Guys my brain is totally fried but its hella creative so I tried to personalise what a centralised government would look like without pissing anybody off (im not for centralism/federalism nor am I against, im just looking for alternative possibilities).

anyway this involves ai cuz i couldnt be asked to write it out. I think this makes more sense for our people honestly.

firstly i looked at the qualities of our people. We are hardworking, very business and tech savvy and natural entrepreneurs and capitalists at heart. So I looked into what we do best, COMPANIES! We are so good at it, anywhere we place companies it does well no matter what industry it is in. So why are we still trying to copy western style governments that dont reflect our reality? To counter this, I proposed this method.

I believe we should create a new governance model where trusted somali owned companies — like WorldRemit or Hormuud— take on government roles. Instead of politicians and tribal rivalries, we’d have companies running key sectors: finance, health, education, etc. Each company would be democratically chosen by the people via 1m1v, held accountable, and focused on results, not politics.

This model would create jobs, eliminate tribalism, and bring global expertise into local governance. No more fake embassies or endless corruption — just efficient service for the people.

It’s not about privatizing everything — it’s about designing a system that actually fits our people. What do you think

What do yall genuinely think? I dont see any reason why this wouldnt work. Argue with this though I want good criticisms to free me from my delusions
 

Espaa_

Ku sali nabiga {scw}
BTW These companies would also be subject to frequent audits by an independent auditing company, preferably local journalists from somali media outlets could do this? Pair this with independent financial audits and this is good

term limits would stay the same a good 4 years or so before they get dashed out of parliament.

also, those companies that are looking to become the new government must give up a total of 20% of company wealth and give it to the economy once in power.
 
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Espaa_

Ku sali nabiga {scw}
Hormuud imports equipment from the Iranians and has ties to AS. Idk much about Worldremit.
Hormuud is a no no I should’ve included they are aligned with AS. The point still stands though Somali companies big ones like Worldremit, Somtel and the likes of them

just companies in general which have general standing. What do you think though? Its a way centralism could work. Also instead of a capital, the capital could be based on where those companies headquarters are located in Somalia. Idk though its just all ideas


Why wouldnt this work?
 
Its a thought mr oponian guild. I thought something different might be nice to say everyday tribe tribe tribe i cant be asked.

It’s a fresh lense and honestly the system we have rn is shit. One day a crazy thought like mine could be reality in Somalia.
I think Somalis could be more safe and prosperous under three states. Somalia died in 91 and it was being bludgeoned for over 21 years. The issue isn’t necessarily the system. It’s the people.
 
Hormuud is a no no I should’ve included they are aligned with AS. The point still stands though Somali companies big ones like Worldremit, Somtel and the likes of them

just companies in general which have general standing. What do you think though? Its a way centralism could work. Also instead of a capital, the capital could be based on where those companies headquarters are located in Somalia. Idk though its just all ideas


Why wouldnt this work?
Because you build a state on religion, ideals, community, and a shared sense of purpose. Economic models don’t come to the fore/become ruling ideology in any country in the world.
 

Espaa_

Ku sali nabiga {scw}
Because you build a state on religion, ideals, community, and a shared sense of purpose. Economic models don’t come to the fore/become ruling ideology in any country in the world.
Somalia wasnt built on religion or ideals or community though. It was built via colonialism with man made borders

adal was built on those 3 hence the fact it was successful. Somalis as you said its the people, they cannot unite under that and as you said its better for 3 states to come to life

For the diverse south i think an economic model would make sense. Democracy doesnt make sense with somalis everyone would just vote for their qabiil. An economic democracy is radical but could save us
 

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Ku sali nabiga {scw}
guys this is clearly extremely radical for anyone that sees this its just a thought im hella bored and came up with a very very very different plan
 
Somalia wasnt built on religion or ideals or community though.

adal was built on those 3 hence the fact it was successful. Somalis as you said its the people, they cannot unite under that and as you said its better for 3 states to come to life

For the diverse south i think an economic model would make sense. Democracy doesnt make sense with somalis everyone would just vote for their qabiil. An economic democracy is radical but could save us
It literally was, look at the SYL charter, my grandfather and uncles thought Somalis were one people with one language and one religion. Now the religion part is true but the rest doesn’t really hold up in the face of scrutiny.

In an ideal world, I think Qabil shouldn’t be something to be shunned but brought on as a marker of somaliness, Why shouldn’t we have Qabil parties? Or parties that represent different regions and sub ethnic groups like the Reewin or Bantu. All should be encouraged to take part and take pride in their own origins. That’s how we remove the toxicity of Somali politics.

But I don’t think Somalia will ever reach that point simply due to the fact that the FGS has become dominated by one clan grouping which seeks to rule all. This puts us on a road towards conflict.
 

Espaa_

Ku sali nabiga {scw}
It literally was, look at the SYL charter, my grandfather and uncles thought Somalis were one people with one language and one religion. Now the religion part is true but the rest doesn’t really hold up in the face of scrutiny.

In an ideal world, I think Qabil shouldn’t be something to be shunned but brought on as a marker of somaliness, Why shouldn’t we have Qabil parties? Or parties that represent different regions and sub ethnic groups like the Reewin or Bantu. All should be encouraged to take part and take pride in their own origins. That’s how we remove the toxicity of Somali politics.

But I don’t think Somalia will ever reach that point simply due to the fact that the FGS has become dominated by one clan grouping which seeks to rule all. This puts us on a road towards conflict.
Thats the thing. Qabiil is a neutral thing. It isnt something bad or something evil. But somalis as a people use it as a weapon especially when it comes to politics

thing is as you said in an “ideal world” where it wasnt problematic, theres only so much you can do with it. Lowkey I prefer picking people based on skillset and not clans. I have no problem with qabiil but can you imahine I heard my aunt saying:

“Aniga waxaan rabaa inaan vote garaayo XSM waa qabiilkay”

i said so you will just disregard the setbacks he has made in favour of qabiil?

sorry for my horrid somali im a say wallahi as you can tell. But yeah it would work if our people had brains outside of qabiil.

its also to do with clan population numbers as well.

I have a very western mindview. My view is that if rishi sunak can become PM of the UK despite being hindi and Obama despite being biracial, why not somalia with a random ass politician? Not based off his lineage but based off skillset and qualifications

personally idc about qabiil. If theres an MJ guy and he graduated from cambridge and he studied IR and Politics and has experience in the labour party in the UK and he was a councillor for many years, id vote him over an Abgaal which only has clan support and no credibility. Not to bash my clan but just to give you a flavour and make it relatable since your MJ
 
Reminds me of some of the stuff that one guy Curtis Yarvin pushes. He wants a techno-monarchy where the government operates like a corporation. Very dystopian when you think about it.
 

Espaa_

Ku sali nabiga {scw}
Reminds me of some of the stuff that one guy Curtis Yarvin pushes. He wants a techno-monarchy where the government operates like a corporation. Very dystopian when you think about it.
Isnt our country rn not dystopian? Also ffs someone has the same idea as me i thought i was bloody original😭😭😭

this makes sense genuinely. Dahabshiil vs hormuud vs somtel vs all these other somali born companies in government would be good instead of 1 person
 
Thats the thing. Qabiil is a neutral thing. It isnt something bad or something evil. But somalis as a people use it as a weapon especially when it comes to politics

thing is as you said in an “ideal world” where it wasnt problematic, theres only so much you can do with it. Lowkey I prefer picking people based on skillset and not clans. I have no problem with qabiil but can you imahine I heard my aunt saying:

“Aniga waxaan rabaa inaan vote garaayo XSM waa qabiilkay”

i said so you will just disregard the setbacks he has made in favour of qabiil?

sorry for my horrid somali im a say wallahi as you can tell. But yeah it would work if our people had brains outside of qabiil.

its also to do with population as well.
The thing is, Qabil in the south is dominant in all aspects of life but when you ask someone “qabyalada ma taageerda?” They’ll say “no qabil! Kuligeena o dhan somali baan nahay!”

whereas in the north you have Qabil football teams, Qabil cafes, Qabil everything, but at the same time that doesn’t affect your prospects in life. People openly faan about their reers and can be civil at the same time.
 

Espaa_

Ku sali nabiga {scw}
The thing is, Qabil in the south is dominant in all aspects of life but when you ask someone “qabyalada ma taageerda?” They’ll say “no qabil! Kuligeena o dhan somali baan nahay!”

whereas in the north you have Qabil football teams, Qabil cafes, Qabil everything, but at the same time that doesn’t affect your prospects in life. People openly faan about their reers and can be civil at the same time.
Then i have an even better idea that incorporates your idea. In the north the system of governance under qabiil and 1m1v would work. In the south its too diverse i think my idea would work. We would all be federal but the south would be under economic rule.

everyone wins its a win win situation
 
Isnt our country rn not dystopian? Also ffs someone has the same idea as me i thought i was bloody original😭😭😭

this makes sense genuinely. Dahabshiil vs hormuud vs somtel vs all these other somali born companies in government would be good instead of 1 person
The question is, how can a for profit company with profit aims represent the ordinary man? Even HSM government is run like a top down corporation where he has the final say on everything, you ask for a capitalist/corporatist gov, I say you have one right now!
 

Espaa_

Ku sali nabiga {scw}
The question is, how can a for profit company with profit aims represent the ordinary man? Even HSM government is run like a top down corporation where he has the final say on everything, you ask for a capitalist/corporatist gov, I say you have one right now!
Thing is with a company its a team effort with many many many people making choices and the top educated people gives votes on the law. Its similar to UK law. This is where technology comes into play. One of the seats will be given to a government formulated AI where it will be given a vote of yes or no just to limit bias.

boss just to reiterate this sounds mad but its something completely new😭
 
Then i have an even better idea that incorporates your idea. In the north the system of governance under qabiil and 1m1v would work. In the south its too diverse i think my idea would work. We would all be federal but the south would be under economic rule.

everyone wins its a win win situation
That diversity isn’t an obstacle, it has always been diverse. There was a time not long ago, where you could drive from xamar to jowhar to beledweyne to baydhabo and not encounter any issues. Law and order/fair representation is the solution.
 

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