Brutal Dr Osman Podcast On Somali Politics
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They wouldn’t be fond upon his atheism to be honest but maybe some day it could be since anything is possible
He said he’s in 30s and most presidents were in their 60s when they served. You never know Somalia could be more secular 30 years from now.
I hope Somalia is more secular and disregards people's personal religions, wax laysku hukumi karo ma aha qof raba inu illahi diido isn't society business, as long as everyone freedom is left alone, free will was given to 'adam' and his children to believe n disbelieve, it didn't say you 'must' believe in order to get rights like Somalis try to manipulate the quran or religion. I don't have to believe if I don't want too and my freedom must be respected as equally as another muslim. I think things will change in 30 years as media and forums and information is spreading fast in Somalia with everyone having a cell phone and internet access, their no longer in the dark about different people and different ideas anymore which leads to liberation of the mind and tolerance age to begin. Something noteworthy to mention is the somali diaspora in the western world to come in 30 years when we are 60 are very 'secular' so we will definitely shift somalia towards it. The only ones I worry about is the second generation diaspora as those ones are in al qaeda and shit but luckily they can't come to power till our generation sets the nation into secular path. We came in the 80s to the west, religious activity wasn't a major issue in our time growing up as kids. 80s and 90s generation are not religious generation, but the osama generation after 2000 yes they are I have to admit.
f*ck Mellenials that is 2000 and after generation, i can't connect with most of them, I am generation Y just before mellenials from 80s to 90s. Look at the rap music these mellenials develop today, they made rap go from philosophy like tupac and biggy to mumbo jumbo da da ba ba rap
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I am not an atheist but you can call me one. I already made it clear it's impossible to describe 'zero' which is nothingness, if u can't describe it, how does nothingness exist, so this is enuff proof there is beginning and there is an end or a first and a last, alpha and omega or whatever u wanna call it. But the difference is I do believe in all religions and I have personal closeness to religions that remained 'pure' and not infilitrated thru administrations and empires like islam n christianity went thru, So I am closer to 'animist' religion as 'nature' is a real and philosophies around it is what I believe like 'waaqism' or 'aboriginal religion' and stuff like that.
U will see me accepting jesus christ as my saviour and that he did indeed die on the cross but his 'spirit' didn't as that was lifted to god, muhammed as my messenger especially how 'deeqsi' he was cuz he reserved 1/5 of the islamic wealth towards the 'poor' so anyone who claims to be dynasty of muhammad thru ali as the shia wish for will not get power or money as they will get 1/5 of the islamic power n wealth in order to help the poor like muhammad did especially the orphans who have unfair advantage of having no parents, I love moses and story the most out of all prophets as that nigga remained true to beeshisa israael when he cud of just joined pharoahs and had nice life. I love abraham story about how he was going to sacrifice ishmael for god and god then turned that into miracle for 'sarah' an old woman in her late ages and past the child birth age and he gave her son too 'ishaakh' kkkkkkkk notice the hikma behind it, it's amazing shit how god works. But I hold great suspicions on major religion becuz they are 'corporations' now and 'political' especially ISLAM N CHRISTIANITY N JUDAISM.
I respect them all and follow them all and I don't believe one religion has the answers to all of them either, but personally I connect more with nature type religions as I am an evolution believer so I am an 'animist' I believe in predator n prey and that we are all forms of animals.
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So you believe there is a higher being just not sure what religion is the ONE
No I believe in all religions, i will attend a church and 'mass', I will attend a mosque, I will attend only 'pure synagogue' of 'mosaic' tradition not the 'babylonian' one as that is intended for 'jews' only, I won't take upon the burden of another nation for myself, they have to live by 600 laws, I have to live by the 10 laws of moses as that is what he was coming to teach the pharoahs and the hamitic world only and I accept those 10 laws of moses and aaron thru the 'earliest' jews the ethiopian jews only not the later jews as they have other laws that is unique to their 'crimes'. Sxb having 'laws' indicated your bad society in god eyes, it means you commited crimes, the less laws the better, jesus said u only need two laws love your neighbor and love god and that is it, which I also accept. But read what I say 'carefully' and stop writing back one line nonsense I hate corporate religion like islam/christianity/judaism today as it has become political and commercialized. I seek now wisdom thru aboriginal dream time stories and also 'waaqist' followers only as they have remained pure about their 1 god and they explain nature to us which is what we science believers love as nature is real, mother nature and father is god
@486th President I am definitely an atheist if u mean if I believe in mainstream/political/commercialized religions like islam/judaism/christianity, then yes I am an atheist but I never denied there is higher being then us as I know scientifically zero or nothingness isn't a 'state' that exist, so to argue there is no creator is essentially saying 'zero' is true state when we know it's an 'absence' of true state and we know it didn't start with an absence as 'time' existed which religion call the 'hour' kkkkkk. Plus we know energy isn't 'created or destroyed' so it always existed. So Time/energy existed before the universe began. The universe began with 'gravity' which is a 'law' and thru gravity did planets n stars form is well known in primary school science
Saaxiib your agnostic not atheist
@486th President look at an example of this 'gravitational' law just within our world which I think the quran speaks about 'Somalia' when it mentions the 'two seas aan is dhexgalin' where there is gravational law applied on the red sea and indian ocean, u see this in real life if u visit PL which allah gave this miracle so we can create 'gravity' before isaac newton but we didn't as we wasted our times in somalinimo and muslimnimo which is all commercialized and political shit anyways and not even based on god but they use god as a means to an end for power and domination of the world.
Saaxiib your agnostic not atheist
Yes agnostic is the best term for me when it comes to which religion would I follow if I had to choose one but I am an 'animist or cawaan believer' by 'choice' if I had to make a choice for a religion, cuz that hasn't been stained thru commercial or political agendas of empires for 2000 years in christian world or 1400 years in islamic world and has remained isolated and thus purer forms of worship.
@486th President we could've said 'gravitational' isn't just up n down like isaac newton proposed but added gravitation is 'horizontal' also as the red sea and indian ocean show that they are stable in two bodies that do not cross into each other as the quran said which is a form of gravitational field which the europeans cracked due to our ignorance of wasting time in jihad of ahmed gurey the silly ass turk when isaac newton was alive then and looking at why everything falls down, why wasn't ottomans coming to somalia to investigate this miracle of god and learn that its not just up n down laws but we could've argued scientifically that gravity can have horizontal stabilizer and point to the universe and planets and show how they sit side by side horizontally like the red sea and indian oceaan does. This wud of meant we cud create devices that have horizontal alignment. This wud of kept the islamic world in power of the globe if the ottomans just stopped the war games and embraced the islamic world into an 'age of learning' like the arabs did before them in baghdad.
Now we have erdogan who wants to re-live ottoman empire of 'war games' and we going to lose another 400 years of opportunities of learning. If it wasn't for Isaac newton waryaa and his gravitatonal discovery, the west wouldn't of been able to develop 'flight' and therefore their army wouldn't have had jet fighters or helicopters and wars would've remained similar to how it was then on the ground and 'sea' only.
Now we have erdogan who wants to re-live ottoman empire of 'war games' and we going to lose another 400 years of opportunities of learning. If it wasn't for Isaac newton waryaa and his gravitatonal discovery, the west wouldn't of been able to develop 'flight' and therefore their army wouldn't have had jet fighters or helicopters and wars would've remained similar to how it was then on the ground and 'sea' only.
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