Benaadir State with or without the capital city? VOTE

Discussion in 'Somali Politics' started by Finesse, May 17, 2019.

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  1. WITH the capital city

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  1. Finesse

    Finesse

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    Would you accept Benaadir State to be created


    1. WITH Mogadishu as the capital city; with all the financial and political benefits that comes with it, this would anger the other federal states and rightfully so.

    2. WITHOUT the capital city, as in, there is another capital city built in another location in Somalia. Alternatively, we could have a rotating capital city situation where each federal state capital hosts the federal government every few months.


    VOTE please.
     
  2. kobe

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    Mogadishu is the only city worthy to be the capital of this country. It's the finest city in East Africa in terms of prestige and beauty.

    Benaadir State is going to happen and Mogadishu will still be the capital of the country. Mogadishu will continue to get foreign aid pumped into the city and it will belong to the locals Alhamdullilah. Don't blame yourself, blame your ancestors for fighting over tuulos like Buuhoodle while my ancestor acquired the big prize. :wow:
     
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  3. Finesse

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    This kind of attitude is why people want to have independent countries.

    Teeda kale, who said your land is better than ours? Alhamdulilah, we are grateful for Buuhoodle ilaa Gaalkacyo. Cagaar, Abaar etc.

    You may have watermelons but we have petrol.. :banderas:
     
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  4. whitehartlane

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    Capital city is independent of qabiil...case closed..

    Do reer hawiye want a benaadir state ..ok no problem but the capital status will change to another city that belongs to all Somalis and that all Somalis can invest in..

    I can assure you no one other than hawiye iyo jareer will be left in that city..

    There are dozens of cities that can handle tht title..

    It doesn't take long for a new capital city to shine..
     
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  5. Mehmet

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    Never gonna happen or the rest of the country will be minicountries
     
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  6. Mehmet

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    Only a week especially if it is safe
     
  7. TheSayid

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    to be a state you need atleast two regions will they be joining hirashabeele?
     
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  8. diaby

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    Balkanise the country and end this nightmare
     
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  9. EDsomali

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    No Banaadir state.

    No federalism.

    Somali federalism = Qabiil federalism
     
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  10. Mehmet

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    Great idea
     
  11. Finesse

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    What is the other solution? Wait for a messiah to rise in Mogadishu that will cater to Somalia from Zeylac to Raaskaambooni?

    Dissolve the federal states and allow AlShabab and Isis to fill the power vacuum?

    I don't know what thought process you centralists are using. :gucciwhat:
     
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  12. EDsomali

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    Somalia has been federal since 1991 pretty much.

    Worse than ever in every statistic measurable and still worsening making no progress.

    How about, stopping the pointless interclan fighting, federal states disputes and move towards a centralised democratic state that takes the aspirations of all citizens to account.

    Federalist are just masked qabilists, who argue for qabyaalad under the guise of federalism.

    Somalia was better than under the crazy ICU than it is under federalism,

    the answer is clear

    its either centralisation or poverty and under-development.
     
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  13. GBTarmy

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    how will they become a federal state? lol as somone said you need 2 regions even galnus is fake because its 1 and half, banadir can join hirshabelle and let go of the capital status. but tbh balkanization is the only way, Somalia project is donezo/finito.
     
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  14. Finesse

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    LOL

    The only state that has behaved as a federal or autonomous state is Puntland and by all measures, it is doing much better than the states that were languishing, waiting for a central government. It is also the only region with ethnic soldiers guarding the land; how can this be called a failure?

    I believe you are the one harbouring qabyaalad, don't project onto us.
     
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  15. EDsomali

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    Nope.

    Puntland has gotten worse since 2006.

    HDI fell from 0.445 in 2006 to 0.441 2017 in Bari

    And 0.410 to 0.365 over the same period.

    Puntland is a shithole just like the rest of Somalia, but some people on this forum will make it out to be different. The delusion of grandeur at its finest.

    Federalism will not work in Somalia.

    Eventually, people will see that.
     
  16. Finesse

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    Source? Whilst you're at it, pull up stats about the state of the non-federalised regions/recently federalised regions and let's compare shall we?

    The difference between us and you is that we believe in our land and are working to improve it, whilst you sit around, insulting Somalia and waiting for a magic superhero to fix it with "centralism".

    No part of Somalia is a "shithole", it just needs time and pragmatic patriots, not negative energy.
     
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  17. PuntiteQueen

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    Finese

    These people don't want to do anything but whine about the state of Somalia. They are allergic to building anything in their home regions and want Sugar Daddies from Turkey and Qatar to build everything for them. They want to force us to walk around with begging bowls in Mogadishu whilst they suck up all the national money.

    PIM
    PIM
    PIIIIIM

    Centralist means ANARCHIST aka LAZY TUUG aka misery loves company.


    "JOIN US IN GAAJO AND RAFAAD AND AMISOM OCCUPATION OTHERWISE YOU ARE UNPATRIOTIC, NIIIIC " :hillarybiz:
     
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  18. EDsomali

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    https://globaldatalab.org/shdi/shdi/

    No, you advocate for the same system that destroyed the country in the first place.

    Qabyaalad under the guise of federalism. That's what Somali federalism is, just qabiil politics. Each federal state is where a tribe is a majority. That's why you advocate for it.

    Federalism is making Somalia worse off. Because it's not a federal system in the first place. Its a collection of corrupt clan states incapable of providing basic services for their populations.

    Somalia collectively is a shithole.

    Its the least developed and poorest country in the world by far.

    The outlook is not good either as the country is regressing in all fields. Somalia needs a revolution, something big to change it because, at its current trajection, Somalia has no hope.
     
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  19. PuntiteQueen

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    :liberaltears:


    Yes. Please, let's conjure up Somali patriotic jinnis through Mingis and wish all our problems away. Excuse me whilst we live in reality and build our SECOND PORT AND THIRD INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT.
     
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  20. Finesse

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    I advocate for a realistic solution instead of dreaming about alternative solutions?

    I would rather live in the now and work with what I have: Puntland. Good luck with whatever you wish to see happen because I know Puntites have made up their mind. Whatever you call our state, we love it and we will keep it.

    Finally; stop with the "shithole" insults. Ever heard of the self-fulfilling prophesy. This negative outlook is un-islamic and unhelpful.
     
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