Axumites XOOGED tf out of us

[The Macrobian]

According to the Monumentum Adulitanum AS WELL AS the periplus, the Axumites were in control of barbaria AKA somalia
Its over bros they've won

 

[novanova]

According to the Monumentum Adulitanum AS WELL AS the periplus, the Axumites were in control of barbaria AKA somalia
Its over bros they've won

Proof?

 

[The Macrobian]

Proof?

The periplus states that east Africa INCLUDING the land of barbaria was subject to Zoskales King of Axum and the Monumebtum Adulitanum details the conquest of the incense land of barbaria which is Somalia

 

[The Macrobian]

@Idilinaa @NidarNidar @Shimbiris @Som @The alchemist it’s over

 

[wonyluvr]

The periplus states that east Africa INCLUDING the land of barbaria was subject to Zoskales King of Axum and the Monumebtum Adulitanum details the conquest of the incense land of barbaria which is Somalia

Show us where it says that

 

[The Macrobian]

Show us where it says that

Hayye quruxley

 

[wonyluvr]

Hayye quruxley

this guy

 

[The Macrobian]

According to the Periplus of the Erythraean Sea, a 1st-century travelogue written by a Greek merchant based in Alexandria, Barbaria extended from the border of Egypt just south of Berenice Troglodytica to just north of Ptolemais Theron. From there to the Bab-el-Mandeb was the kingdom ruled by Zoskales(possibly Aksum), after which the "rest of Barbaria" extended to Opone. This second Barbaria was the location of the so-called "far-side" ports.[6][7]

 

[The Macrobian]

I fought against the Sesea who entrenched themselves on a very high and very inaccessible mountain; I surrounded them and forced them to come down and I seized for myself their young, women, children, virgins, and all their belongings. I subdued the Rauso who live in the midst of vast, waterless plains in the heart of a barbarous country, rich in incense; and the Solate whom I ordered to watch over the coasts of the sea.
Stuart Munro Hay, Bowersock and other historians identify the Barbies lands as Somalia

 

[EritreanPost_]

King Zoskales is Eritrean from Adulis, Eritrea

 

[The Macrobian]

King Zoskales is Eritrean from Adulis, Eritrea

Ye we get it pal

 

[The Macrobian]

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it’s ntd bro

 

[Idilinaa]

Y’all must be seriously bored to keep operating troll accounts and spamming these repetitive derailment threads in retaliation.

It’s become predictable at this point every single time Somalia or the Somali region of Ethiopia is compared to Ethiopia, or when Ethiopia is criticized even mildly, threads like these pop up right after. It’s like clockwork. It's either this or retaliation for me describing development/industry gains.

Pretty sure what I said here triggered this:

Ethiopia's population in 2025 is about 135 million

People are overestimating, the population of the Somali region is nowhere near 25 million. I would estimate it to be closer to 12 million.

www.somalispot.com

Here’s the context of what I actually said (before the selective outrage):

It’s always been that way , even in the medieval and early modern periods. Ethiopia fielded massive armies but still faced defeats when going up against smaller, better-organized Somali forces

Take the Battle of Shimbre Kure: Ahmed Gurey led just 15,000 troops and routed an Ethiopian army reportedly over 200,000 strong. That wasn’t just about numbers , it was strategy, coordination, and superior mobility.

Same logic applies today. Numbers alone don’t win conflicts , capability, cohesion, and resources do. That’s why you see countries like China surpassing nations like India in most metrics despite similar population sizes. It’s quality over quantity every time.

So the focus shouldn’t be on inflating population size, but on improving the socio-economic metrics of Somalis , like education, income levels, healthcare, and infrastructure. A smaller, more productive population with strong human capital is far more valuable than large numbers with limited opportunity

All I was doing was pointing out that obsession with population size , without reference to economic productivity or development outcomes , is a flawed and misleading metric.



As for the "Adulitum momentum" being framed as an Axumite conquest , that's just historically inaccurate.

This is filled with a lot assumptions and secondary aspersions. Because Axum is never mentioned in the inscription.

The Monumentum Adulitanum, was an ancient inscription depicting the military campaigns of an anonymous king. The original text was inscribed on a throne in Adulis. Although the inscription has never been discovered by archaeologists, it is known about through the copying of the inscription by Cosmas Indicopleustes, a 6th-century Greek traveler-monk. The text narrates the king's military campaigns in the African continent and in the Arabian peninsula.

It wasn't an Axumite state that pushed inland, but rather a campaign launched by an anonymous ruler based in Adulis, targeting Tigray, Danakil, and parts of southern Arabia. We've gone over this before.

If they traveled eastward, that would have brought them toward Southern Arabia.

The Rauso people were described as living between vast, waterless plains which corresponds to the Danakil Depression.

tAs for the 'Sesea' mentioned, they were most likely highlanders located around the Tigrayan/Tigrinya mountain regions. In fact, the conqueror’s reference to the conquest of the "Tigretes" is believed to be the earliest known mention of the Tigrayan/Tigrinya people.

Regarding the Solate, they are only mentioned once in the text. There's absolutely no solid connection between them and the Somali coast. In fact, none of the known ports or regions of ancient Somalia ,like Oponi, Mosyllon, or Avalites are mentioned anywhere in this inscription.

The tribes named here, like the Rauso and Solate, don't appear in any other historical records either.

Here’s a map that illustrates the actual campaign routes:

Here is a map of the conquest illustrated, the ruler sets out from Adulis to eventually comes back to Adulis, after his African campaign he even subjugates the Sabaeans and Himyarites in Yemen,

So yeah ,instead of nitpicking or spinning up threads full of irrelevant bait, try engaging with something substantive.


At least then the conversation might be worth reading. From where I’m standing, though, I’ll take the opportunity to drop something educational every time , so thanks for that, I guess.

 

[Cartan Boos]

Can these annoyin troll rest for day fuckkn retards

 

[Neptune]

This is what happens when you get your history from Facebook.

 

[Flightboi]

According to the Monumentum Adulitanum AS WELL AS the periplus, the Axumites were in control of barbaria AKA somalia
Its over bros they've won

This literally never happened at all except in your dreams. Stop acting delusional.

 

[The Macrobian]

Guys wallahi im not a troll tf. I tagged those accounts because I WANT someone to refute me as I dont want Somalis to have been conquered by Axumites

 

[Fit~Prince]

we need to ban these trolls. They bring down the quality of this forum.

 

[The Macrobian]

Y’all must be seriously bored to keep operating troll accounts and spamming these repetitive derailment threads in retaliation.

It’s become predictable at this point every single time Somalia or the Somali region of Ethiopia is compared to Ethiopia, or when Ethiopia is criticized even mildly, threads like these pop up right after. It’s like clockwork. It's either this or retaliation for me describing development/industry gains.

Pretty sure what I said here triggered this:

Ethiopia's population in 2025 is about 135 million

People are overestimating, the population of the Somali region is nowhere near 25 million. I would estimate it to be closer to 12 million.

www.somalispot.com

Here’s the context of what I actually said (before the selective outrage):


All I was doing was pointing out that obsession with population size , without reference to economic productivity or development outcomes , is a flawed and misleading metric.



As for the "Adulitum momentum" being framed as an Axumite conquest , that's just historically inaccurate.



It wasn't an Axumite state that pushed inland, but rather a campaign launched by an anonymous ruler based in Adulis, targeting Tigray, Danakil, and parts of southern Arabia. We've gone over this before.



Here’s a map that illustrates the actual campaign routes:


So yeah ,instead of nitpicking or spinning up threads full of irrelevant bait, try engaging with something substantive.


At least then the conversation might be worth reading. From where I’m standing, though, I’ll take the opportunity to drop something educational every time , so thanks for that, I guess.

This contradicts Munro-Hay, Bowersock, LP Kirwan and other archeaologists tho who do identify it as possibly being Hadhramout but SOmalia is best as it was also known as barbarous and is likely the point of reference by consensus

 

[Idilinaa]

This contradicts Munro-Hay, Bowersock, LP Kirwan and other archeaologists tho who do identify it as possibly being Hadhramout but SOmalia is best as it was also known as barbarous and is likely the point of reference by consensus

That's a complete fallacy

Argument from authority - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

If you spent more time critically reading instead of parroting selective claims to fit ethno-nationalist narratives, you might realize the scholarship is more nuanced and not a tool to score points in identity debate.