Y full doesn't give TMRC anymore just snp's. Why is that?
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They will anytime from now. They were doing corrections for some months now.
They will anytime from now. They were doing corrections for some months now.
The Spanish T expert's prediction was amazing, especially only having limited Somali Strs data to
work with.
I'm closer to Reer Nur than the OP. They have done the test and are generally the same haplogroup as the other Samaroons. I can try and get some of them to do this specific full y test as well.
The Xeebjire results I saw so far were T1a not EV32.
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Almost identical yes, quite shocking
There seems to be a difference between the Gadabursi and Isaaq samples in some of the markers in the FTDNA.
See the highlight:
I already posted a Reer Nuur guy's results from 23andme a while ago. It was typical results of what you would expect:
Those are fast mutating STR's and not much use for analysis. Even some STR's are shared by the Samaron sample with only certain Isaaqs who do not share them with other Isaaqs.
The above sample and that of the Isaaqs are not that distantly related where it matters when contrasted with the Surre FTDNA sample. Your YFull result should confirm this.
Let the YFull lot do their work and all will become clear.
@Awbarre
Thanks for the guidance thread on how to upload. The Qubeys Surre sample is now also on 23andme. He and the other Surre (Cabdalla) sample only link up at Maha Dir according to clan folklore and are currently grouped together on the YFull tree. If the preliminary analysis is correct, then a new subclade will be created for the 2 Surre samples.
Does it tell you the timeline between the subclans ?
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Do we have any info on the T among Hawiyes? There was a study a while back where a Hawiye dude in Jabuuti completely stood out from the Isaaqs and Dirs with T:
Made me think he might have possessed a more native Horn form of T-L208 like what's found in Sudan and Ethiopia.
Do we have any info on the T among Hawiyes? There was a study a while back where a Hawiye dude in Jabuuti completely stood out from the Isaaqs and Dirs with T:
Made me think he might have possessed a more native Horn form of T-L208 like what's found in Sudan and Ethiopia.
No that's a surprising actually. I've never heard of a Hawiye getting a T result. I thought it only showed up in Dir and Isaaq.
No that's a surprising actually. I've never heard of a Hawiye getting a T result. I thought it only showed up in Dir and Isaaq.
No one knows the actual sub clan of Hawiye that was tested. There are some possible theories (1) he's a sheegada from a Dir group, (2) could be fiqishini who tend to inhabit Eastern Somaliland ( and who show up as T), (3) could be karanle (from Ethiopia which have not been widely tested), (4) perhaps some hawiye sub-clan with origins from the south that came as a part of an earlier migration (hence a much older T subclade than those found in the North). I know @anonimo will swear up and down that Hawiye's aren't tested enough to make any claims but my theory is most are EV32 which is what's in line with the results I've seen on 23andme so far.
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Do you think that there will be new subclades that emerge? How can we find out more about when the Isaaq-Gadabursi-Ciise split? Will there be more updates?
It would be good if an Ciise did the FullY aswell.
Wait, fiqishini have tested as T-M70?
There is a Fiqishini guy on 23andme who is T-M70.
A Samaron sample or two would probably highlight a split between the Isaaqs and Samarons. According to Esteban, the Ciise-Isaaq/Samaron split is not that great in comparison to the Surre sample he analysed.
Yes, it would be very useful to have an Ciise sample. If you know of any Ciise T's who are interested, please encourage them to take the test.
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