Are we wired from birth as far as what value we like?

[Basra]

I mean, one thing i know for sure is Personalities are made from birth. It comes with the soul. And since our Personality is wired from birth, then we have no choice.


Like for example right now i am reading about two English Aristocratic women who lived in the 18th century. One is Conservative, and the other is Liberal. Literally is in a time of modern days Western Political system was birthed.

Both women are highly intelligent. Both women very well born, money, title, family etc etc

Personality wise I will call the Conservative woman C & the Liberal Woman L.


Here are their qualities according to my own definition.


C

Connected to God, likes class distinction, hangs out with like minded only , Moral police



L

Not Connected to God, Doesn't care about Class distinction, in fact respect brains and individual worth than birth worth, hangs with everybody, Immoral,




Now i like both women, but i am conflicted as if i had to choose, i feel guilty choosing the immoral liberal woman? Why tho? Why am i so. easy to be lenient, so much that i am ready to say its ok for Abortion, in the name of choice? Why can't i be harsh, moralistic, and very dogmatic?


The liberal woman is so loving, so humanistic, charming and really over the moon. While the Conservative woman is very intelligent, reminds me of my mom. I see her as an authority figure. I love the human that she is, and totally understand her harsh moral stand. But given that i consider myself, religious- my choice should be easy? Is my liberal stand an infectious disease?

 

[Basra]

@repo is a dilemma or a conundrum?

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

Liberal people are nicer more tolerant, respectful, and easier to live with. Conservative Christians will be racist to you and hate preach against you while liberal Christians would let you use his parking lot when the Mosques parking lot is full.

We Somalis live in Minnesota and survived here because of the liberals, our representatives, and congressmen who've done a great job for us are liberals, the ones who want to deport us, close our daycares, businesses, and blow up the apartments many Somalis live in are conservatives.

Being liberal and a Somali for me is a flex. #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

 

[Basra]

Liberal people are nicer more tolerant, respectful, and easier to live with. Conservative Christians will be racist to you and hate preach against you while liberal Christians would let you use his parking lot when the Mosques parking lot is full.

We Somalis live in Minnesota and survived here because of the liberals, our representatives, and congressmen who've done a great job for us are liberals, the ones who want to deport us, close our daycares, businesses, and blow up the apartments many Somalis live in are conservatives.

Being liberal and a Somali for me is a flex. #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Excellent answer. I think Liberals are better humans than Conservatives. I hate to be judgy and perfect

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

Excellent answer. I think Liberals are better humans than Conservatives. I hate to judgy and perfect

My belief is that conservatives live in the past and are scared of moving towards the future. Why do you care if Someone is a different religion than you or practices the religion differently than you? To them they see it as a threat to their way of life.

Why do you care if someone if a girl choses to wear a hijab or not? To them they want to control women. Why do you care if a person Identifies as gay or some other ciyaalsuuqnimo? This is the end times and you can't make everyone a wadaad or maybe their insecure of their "wadaadnimo".

 

[Bundasliga]

Excellent answer. I think Liberals are better humans than Conservatives. I hate to be judgy and perfect

It depends liberals ,white liberals in particular impose their ideology & worldview onto everybody sometimes even with force .

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

It depends liberals ,white liberals in particular impose their ideology & worldview onto everybody sometimes even with force .

They should by force because Conservatives like you would do the same. Girls aren't even allowed to jog in the street in Somaliland because of Fatwas of conservative sheikhs living in the bronze age.

 

[Basra]

My belief is that conservatives live in the past and are scared of moving towards the future. Why do you care if Someone is a different religion than you or practices the religion differently than you? To them they see it as a threat to their way of life.

Why do you care if someone if a girl choses to wear a hijab or not? To them they want to control women. Why do you care if a person Identifies as gay or some other ciyaalsuuqnimo? This is the end times and you can't make everyone a wadaad or maybe their insecure of their "wadaadnimo".

Wow. your rationale is really the work of dangerous business. but i see your point

 

[Basra]

It depends liberals ,white liberals in particular impose their ideology & worldview onto everybody sometimes even with force .

I don't think White liberals impose their world view on people, it is just the Conservative are reading that and are in amber alert. Projecting their evangelical nature on poor immoral misguided people who just want to be accepted

 

[Bundasliga]

They should by force because Conservatives like you would do the same. Girls aren't even allowed to jog in the street in Somaliland because of Fatwas of conservative sheikhs living in the bronze age.

"They should do by force" kulaha

The open minded tolerant liberal in a nutshell

 

[Bundasliga]

I don't think White liberals impose their world view on people, it is just the Conservative are reading that and are in amber alert. Projecting their evangelical nature on poor immoral misguided people who just want to be accepted

Feminism, LGBT, human rights ,secularism etc. The list goes on & on .

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

"They should do by force" kulaha

The open minded tolerant liberal in a nutshell

Yes I'm open minded and we should fight close minded folks

 

[Bundasliga]

Yes I'm open minded and we should fight close minded folks

Don't they have the choice to stay "close minded" ?

 

[Basra]

My belief is that conservatives live in the past and are scared of moving towards the future. Why do you care if Someone is a different religion than you or practices the religion differently than you? To them they see it as a threat to their way of life.

Why do you care if someone if a girl choses to wear a hijab or not? To them they want to control women. Why do you care if a person Identifies as gay or some other ciyaalsuuqnimo? This is the end times and you can't make everyone a wadaad or maybe their insecure of their "wadaadnimo".

But is moving to future means liberalism? I mean, i see the point of Conservatism being religious. We know Religion is the answer. But you can't discount what the liberals have, which is abundance of tolerance and love.


for example the two woman i read about-- the conservative woman's children were happy and while the liberal woman's children lived a miserable life.

So Religion and conservatism has very real appealing results. I have the privilege thanks to Allaah swt that i can read about these women in a historical context. Truly, i believe the conservatism children living a good life is because of their good mother's Christian upbringing. She would force her servants to go to church too. She refused one proposal for one of her daughter from a rich liberal aristocratic family, she said NO-- because they don't go to church and belonged to the liberal party..


My point is-- both are very appealing to me. I see them as human beings, but if i had a choice to be stuck in a lone island with one of them- i will choose the liberal aristocratic woman over the conservative woman


Am i a heathen? looooo.l

 

[Bundasliga]

But is moving to future means liberalism? I mean, i see the point of Conservatism being religious. We know Religion is the answer. But you can't discount what the liberals have, which is abundance of tolerance and love.


for example the two woman i read about-- the conservative woman's children were happy and while the liberal woman's children lived a miserable life.

So Religion and conservatism has very real appealing results. I have the privilege thanks to Allaah swt that i can read about these women in a historical context. Truly, i believe the conservatism children living a good life is because of their good mother's Christian upbringing. She would force her servants to go to church too. She refused one proposal for one of her daughter from a rich liberal aristocratic family, she said NO-- because they don't go to church and belonged to the liberal party..


My point is-- both are very appealing to me. I see them as human beings, but if i had a choice to be stuck in a lone island with one of them- i will choose the liberal aristocratic woman over the conservative woman


Am i a heathen? looooo.l

Stay woke

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

Stay woke

Brow go to the conservative south and see how it's like. He's saying that whites are hypocrites when it comes to blacks regardless but the conservative is open with his lies.

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

But is moving to future means liberalism? I mean, i see the point of Conservatism being religious. We know Religion is the answer. But you can't discount what the liberals have, which is abundance of tolerance and love.


for example the two woman i read about-- the conservative woman's children were happy and while the liberal woman's children lived a miserable life.

So Religion and conservatism has very real appealing results. I have the privilege thanks to Allaah swt that i can read about these women in a historical context. Truly, i believe the conservatism children living a good life is because of their good mother's Christian upbringing. She would force her servants to go to church too. She refused one proposal for one of her daughter from a rich liberal aristocratic family, she said NO-- because they don't go to church and belonged to the liberal party..


My point is-- both are very appealing to me. I see them as human beings, but if i had a choice to be stuck in a lone island with one of them- i will choose the liberal aristocratic woman over the conservative woman


Am i a heathen? looooo.l

I am Muslim too who isn't a conservative right wing nut bob lol.

 

[Bundasliga]

Brow go to the conservative south and see how it's like. He's saying that whites are hypocrites when it comes to blacks regardless but the conservative is open with his lies.

Liberalism still worse

I am Muslim too who isn't a conservative right wing nut bob lol.

Muslim who defends liberalism more than Islam