alhamdulilah i consider Alshabab to murtaddiin

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  1. SomaliWadaniSoldier

    SomaliWadaniSoldier Ameer Siyad Barre rahmatullah aleyh

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    This is my 4th year with firm faith that Alshabab are murtaddiin.
    I believe their soldiers, elders, supporters and their womenfolk are all apostates
     
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  2. Iftiin

    Iftiin Dhulbahante Mujahid //Anti Qabilnimo// Pro Shariah

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    This is a serious accusation:

    What's your evidence for making takfeer? Provide clear daleel please.
     
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  3. SomaliWadaniSoldier

    SomaliWadaniSoldier Ameer Siyad Barre rahmatullah aleyh

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    my legitimate takfir against shababul murtaddiin is that they make blood of human halal which was made haram by Allah.
    Also they make suicide halal, Allah made it Haram.
    So because of making halal that which was made haram by Allah, they become disbelievers.

    Another reason for my honest takfiir is that they disobey the rulers. So they go against the command of Prophet pbuh thus they become disbelieversm
     
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  4. DeathWish

    DeathWish Hotep and Hebrew Israelite

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    They are not Muslims! Allah will punish those that commit suicide b*mb*ngs with hell forever.
    They promote taking the lives of other Muslims in Mogadishu and Southern Somalia. The Prophet (SAW) said that one of the worst things a Muslim could do is spill the blood of another Muslim. That is what they do on a day to day basis.

    These people never pray or read the Quran. A Christian who was captured by *S*S said that they never prayed or even touched the Quran during his months in confinement. Another Christian recited some verses of the Bible to escape from those hoodlums and they believed it was the Quran. So do not try to defend those evil infidels because I know if they attacked your family you would never forgive them.
     
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  5. SomaliWadaniSoldier

    SomaliWadaniSoldier Ameer Siyad Barre rahmatullah aleyh

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    Iam the first amongst Somalis who made takfiir against them alhamdulilah.
     
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  6. Iftiin

    Iftiin Dhulbahante Mujahid //Anti Qabilnimo// Pro Shariah

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    You've not met the conditions required to make legitimate takfeer & nobody of any knowledge has adopted your position:
    • They haven't contradicted the word of Allah by saying it's halal to kill someone without right (if they believed that all the Somalis in the regions they controlled for years would have been long killed). Rather they do not believe the sitting government & it's army to be Muslims but apostates (which can be killed as per the Shariah). Having said that, it doesn't matter if their takfeer is legitimate or not because they are not directly going against the word of Allah. The most you can say is that they are sinners, the same way a Muslim murderer is not considered an apostate but someone who did a major sin. (Funnily enough it was the Khawarij who use to make takfeer based on major sins and you seem to be following in their footsteps perfectly.)
    • Even the Scholars are in disagreement as to whether or not Suicide bombing is allowed (issue came up when Palestinians were resisting the Jews and that was their most effective method) and the scholars who differ on the matter do not make takfeer on each other because this is something open to ijtihad.
    • Again they do not view the current rulers as Muslims and there is no Islamic obligation to obey disbeliving rulers. As i said before it doesn't matter if their takfeer is legitimate or not because they are not directly going against the word of Allah.
    Further reading on that last point.

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  7. merka

    merka ʏᴍᴏʜɢɪ

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    What about their propaganda supporters Dalsoor? Will you also declare them murtadeen?
     
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  8. merka

    merka ʏᴍᴏʜɢɪ

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    You support suicide bombing? :cryinglaughsmiley:

    @AbdiJohnson call your csis friends
     
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  9. Arman

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    you're actually trying to defend them :faysalwtf:
     
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  10. Iftiin

    Iftiin Dhulbahante Mujahid //Anti Qabilnimo// Pro Shariah

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    Find me one scholar anywhere in the world who agrees with the OP and if you can not do so...

    Find me an Ustadh (teacher) anywhere in the world who agrees with him and if you still can not do so...

    Find me a single student who has even sniffed the fragrance of knowledge that agrees with this emotional child.
     
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    Arman

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    i'm going to dismiss you as a troll, at least that's my hope....:stopit:
     
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  12. Iftiin

    Iftiin Dhulbahante Mujahid //Anti Qabilnimo// Pro Shariah

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    Accepting defeat so soon? At least you still have a few brain cells left.

    Take it.
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  13. DeathWish

    DeathWish Hotep and Hebrew Israelite

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    Warya, are you crazy? If a Muslim commits suicide he will be in hell forever.
    What is the difference between a Muslim that does suicide and one that does not?
    The Muslim that has not ki11ed himself might enter Hell if he was not good but he will eventually enter paradise. A Muslim that commits suicide will never leave Hell because they wasted the Greatest Gift ALLAH has given them. Never leaving hell essentially makes you no different from a disbeliever.

    Stop defending these people because it doesn't make you a better Muslim it just makes you a failure as a human being. You are mocking the dead children that they manipulated using the beautiful words of Allah into ki11ing other children and innocent people. Teaching the young people to ki11 innocent civilians in the markets of Mogadishu through suicide is not only unIslamic but also inhumane. That is why as a Muslim I am happy knowing that hell awaits the people who have committed these atrocities!
     
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  14. shanqale

    shanqale Somali producer, entrepreneur, and philanthropist.

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    Hello I an Ustadh Khalid from Somalia.

    I declare All shabaab to be Apostate and should be killed.

    Jazakullah Khayr.
     
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    waraabe Your superior

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    :dead::dead1::deadrose::deadosama:
     
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