Absolute Hypocrisy! Why Are Open Haram Relationships Acceptable And Normalized But A Man With Multiple Wives Is Not?!

GemState

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The West's secularization is bullshit, there's no secular justification for allowing 2 men to sign a marriage contract but not allowing 1 man and 2 women
 
While these "open marriage" LGBTQ people are a minority in the West, they have a lot of social and even political clout. That's why even though there aren't many of them their views can be propagated.

It won't last long though, conservative and nationalist politics is gaining ground in the West. This will lead to its own problems though.
 
The alphabet community is literally 3% of the western population and yet they push their agenda down our throats day in and day out trying to force us to accept their degeneracy. These people will not be satisfied until you become like them and that’s why I always make it a point to call our their bs ideology.
 
My uncle has 18 kids to 5 different women because we allow polygamy; younger generations of Dinka-Nuer men & women have thoroughly rejected polygamy and I suspect that it will be completely gone as soon as we stabilise and grow economically.
 

sorevsa

@asveros
While these "open marriage" LGBTQ people are a minority in the West, they have a lot of social and even political clout. That's why even though there aren't many of them their views can be propagated.

It won't last long though, conservative and nationalist politics is gaining ground in the West. This will lead to its own problems though.
Open marriage is more common between straights

Nah, its only the boomer gen thats conservative, women and young people have been moving to the left over past few years. It will only

ethnic people are overwhelmingly democratic, so its just the old white guys in the bible belt voting for rep. When texas makes more stupid laws youll see democratic votes increase

 
Allah created men and women differently. Its natural men will desire more than 1 women no matter how beautiful or pious she is. We have followed the western culture in regards to monogamy being the most proper way. Yet the very same people that follow monogamy and preach monogamy are the same ones caught with prostitutes mistresses and women on the side
Don't be silly.

Polygamy is most definitely allowed in Islam, but to call monogamy 'Western' is dumb.

The Prophet s.a.w was both monogamous and polygamous in his lifetime, showing us both types of relationships are more than acceptable.

Also, through out history monogamous marriages were the norm as polygamy has always been a privilege for the men that not only have the time but the resources.

Funny, because in the Shafi Madhab imaam Shafi actually believed that monogamy is better, so saying that preferring monogamy is 'Western' is such a juvenile analysis that doesn't take context into account.

But I agree that the West are hypocrites. I've been seeing more and more content on polymory and other open form of relationships being shown in the media.
 
The woman have no say unless they make it a condition before marriage, if not then the man can marry without the knowledge of the first wife.
A man marrying without the knowledge of the 1st wife isn't recommended and isn't seen as good manners. Even scholars that say a man can do that legally, advise against it, so why advocate it?

I don't understand why some Muslim men have such a callous outlook towards marriage.
 

bidenkulaha

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There’s a reason for the restriction. A man can make pregnant multiple wives. A women can only carry the child of one man at any one time.

Society functions better when men have multiple wives and multiple children. You grow your population and economy.

Islam isn’t just a moral system but also a political. The more you see the moral and societal decay of the West you realise Islam is perfect.

Feminist equality destroys the family. Islam enlarges it
 
@HIBAQ123

"And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice]." (Surah 4:2)

You know the wording you used denies the Qur'an right (even if unintentional)?

Polygamy can be frustrating to rationalise for the modern brain (both men and women) - but watch what you say when discussing this topic.

Allah would never make halal anything that had even a scintilla of corruption - everything prescribed in it is objectively and universally good. There are of course conditions - focus on that.

 
You're not depriving children of love and attention they need from both parents if you're splitting your time between 2 wives and 2 sets of children. Parental involvement is critical for proper child development, in which a 50% father will not suffice. We've seen the effects absent dads have on communities, and it aint pretty, to say the least.

In these other relationships, children are mostly not involved. Not too hard to comprehend. :hillarybiz:
Wrong, a man does not need to see his children everyday to have a relationship with them and to have a fully functioning relationship
Unless you have studies to prove polgyny inhibits this devlopment in children and has a significant difference you are just spewing nonsense
Your getting one piece of data about absent fathers(not involved in childs life at all) and conflating it with a man in polgyny, who would see his children once every other day or every 2 days, which are 2 completely different situations, seems like ur bias agaisnt polgyny is forcing you to use faulty logic
 

sorevsa

@asveros
muslim women shouldn't really trip over polygamy, the guys that constantly talk bout it are single and even if they had a wife i would say vast majority of western muslim women won't even consider it and would just divorce. this is an outdated practice only people back home have a chance of doing. incredibly rare to see it in the west.
I don't understand why some Muslim men have such a callous outlook towards marriage.
Its easy to say such things when you aren't married/not in a relationship. e.g redpill/manosphere guys talking about 50/50 on dates when theyre single, but when they come across someone they really like they end up paying for almost/if not everything to impress them. hopefully they'll be more empathetic once they get married.
 
muslim women shouldn't really trip over polygamy, the guys that constantly talk bout it are single and even if they had a wife i would say vast majority of western muslim women won't even consider it and would just divorce. this is an outdated practice only people back home have a chance of doing. incredibly rare to see it in the west.

Its easy to say such things when you aren't married/not in a relationship. e.g redpill/manosphere guys talking about 50/50 on dates when theyre single, but when they come across someone they really like they end up paying for almost/if not everything to impress them. hopefully they'll be more empathetic once they get married.
Exactly … most of the men here are talking to a wall. No educated independent woman would agree to such a thing even if she is religious and pious. Chances are high if she is uneducated or poor, which most of us are not.
 
Exactly … most of the men here are talking to a wall. No educated independent woman would agree to such a thing even if she is religious and pious. Chances are high if she is uneducated or poor, which most of us are not.
Who wants an entitled, independent, African history graduate as a wife?
 

Mercury

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You're not depriving children of love and attention they need from both parents if you're splitting your time between 2 wives and 2 sets of children. Parental involvement is critical for proper child development, in which a 50% father will not suffice. We've seen the effects absent dads have on communities, and it aint pretty, to say the least.

In these other relationships, children are mostly not involved. Not too hard to comprehend. :hillarybiz:
One thing ive noticed with Polygamy is that people dont realize that the more wives you have the less time you gonna have for your kids

For example a man with 4 wives must spend equal time with all his wives 2 days each for all his wives which means he gonna only see his kids twice a week
 
One thing ive noticed with Polygamy is that people dont realize that the more wives you have the less time you gonna have for your kids

For example a man with 4 wives must spend equal time with all his wives 2 days each for all his wives which means he gonna only see his kids twice a week
You dont need to see your dad every day
 
Who is normalizing haram relationship? There is a difference between courting and haram dating .
Polygamy is not mandatory :kanyeshrug:
 

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