Abraha and the army of elephants

[CaliSomali]

Yaquub

Speaking of the elephants fairytale, how come these birds never showed up when the first Alqaeda terrorists invaded and captured Mecca and soon after the Haj 1979, they massacred hundreds of pilgrims, only for American and French special forces to enter the Ka3ba and liberate it from the terrorists? Maybe they are all dead and couldn’t be revived.

@Steamdevolopment

Americans and French liberating people? You mean more like massacring them.

 

[AussieHustler]

Americans and French liberating people? You mean more like massacring them.

Cali

Lest you forget. Have you ever heard of a Saudi bloke called Juhayman Al Otaybi? Probably not. he was the first modern Binladen. Did you hear of the Mecca seizure in 1979 and how a bunch of French special forces liberated pilgrims caught in the Ka3ba seizure? Do you know hundreds of pilgrims died in that seizure? Probably not.

Edited Version. Read the whole article on;

https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/how-1979-siege-mecca-haunts-house-saud

How the 1979 Siege of Mecca Haunts the House of Saud.

Saudi Arabia is in a familiar, if unpleasant, position. On June 23, security forces in the kingdom disrupted an impending attack on the Grand Mosque in Mecca, according to Saudi Arabia's Interior Ministry. The event triggered an avalanche of international commentary about the terrorist plot, which reportedly involved three cells ready to attack security forces and worshippers at the mosque. And though the Interior Ministry's statement did not allude to it, the foiled conspiracy doubtless brought back uncomfortable memories for the Saudi royal family of the siege of the Grand Mosque in November 1979.

Despite the incident's gravity and its lingering influence on Islamist terrorism, the Grand Mosque's siege is a historical footnote nearly 40 years later. Saudi Arabia quickly shut down its communication channels to the outside world as the event unfolded. Since then, it has had no desire to discuss the most destabilizing and embarrassing moment in its history, when militants seized and held Islam's holiest shrine for 15 days, and Riyadh had to rely on clandestine members of the French special forces to regain control. But as the recent plot and the kingdom's enduring fight against radicalism underscore, the legacy of the 1979 Grand Mosque siege lives on.

On Nov. 20, 1979, al-Otaibi and his followers made their way into the mosque's inner sanctum, well-armed. Before any of the thousands of pilgrims there could comprehend what had happened, the rebel leader took control of the microphones at the front of the mosque, announcing that his brother-in-law was the Mahdi. (Interviews with survivors of the siege indicate that the brother-in-law bore several physical traits that the Mahdi supposedly would have.) Some Islamic scholars trapped inside the holy site then dialed their superiors for help as the rebels closed the Grand Mosque's massive gates and snipers took up defensive positions in several of its minarets. Mecca police responded hours later, only to be repelled by successive rounds of fire from militants hiding in the upper reaches of the Grand Mosque.

France to the Rescue

As former head of the GIGN Paul Barril tells it, the ill-equipped Saudi military needed to disrupt the rebels from a distance to avoid another bloodbath. The French operatives settled on using a gas that caused vomiting and temporary blindness to incapacitate the militants, allowing Saudi security forces and a contingent of Pakistani commandos to penetrate the Grand Mosque. Many of the rebels retreated into the recesses underneath the structure, and from there, a brutal battle erupted. Saudi forces indiscriminately threw grenades, killing untold numbers of pilgrims, military personnel and rebels. Official estimates put the death toll at around 255, but sources outside the Saudi government say that as many as 1,000 people died in the fight.

 

[Basra]

All i recall is that he was livid with an arab urinating on his newly built church (talk about violation) and he mustered up an an ethiopian army filled with elephants to crush the kaaba in order to teach the disrespectful Arabs a lesson. In terms of diplomacy, i think the Arab chiefs should have payed for the insult of the trouble maker who deliberately desecrated the ethiopian place of worship.

What are your thoughts on this? would the Arabs be slaves now if not for divine intervention?

Allaah swt hates people who are violent. They were the offensive one who marched to destroy the house of Allaah swt. The form of punishment the received was the same as the people of Qomul Lut. Hot, round clay missiles flying down and destroyed their skulls. That should tell u how mad God was!

 

[Keo]

I think in the bible it refers to Ham who was the son of Noah as cursed. And Ham, which is where the word hamatic comes from, was the father of Kush, which is where the word cushite comes from.

So according to the bible all hamites are cursed including cushites.

Either way, Somalis aren’t cushite, it has nothing to with us.

Ham was not cursed. It was one of his son's. It's actually called the curse of Canaan but they changed it to Ham because that was his father.

 

[munira]

Ham was not cursed. It was one of his son's. It's actually called the curse of Canaan but they changed it to Ham because that was his father.

Are you referring to the bible?

 

[Keo]

Are you referring to the bible?

Obviously.

 

[munira]

Obviously.

Oh I didn’t know you were a biblical scholar....

 

[Yaquub]

Ethiopians made the Yemeni Arabs their es for quite awhile. They colonized them centuries back. And if I recall correctly, the Bible does talk disparagingly about "Cush" a couple of times. I wonder if Ethiopians and Cushites as a whole are considered evil people in Abrahamic religions. Someone once told me that the evil Pharaoh who attacked Musa and enslaved the Jews was probably a Cushite.

Like they didn't bury their daughters, castrate bantu slaves and rape byzantine women like they are doing in germany today! the arabs of the past were so savage the persian king had to check them on this and told umar to f*ck off and stop trying to rape persian women (craved for their whiteness by sun-burnt arabs). So yeah! i'd say they can't talk down to firaun when they have a barbaric history themselves. Now i know why arabs are always angry..i'd be too if i was conquered by ethiopians and humiliated by the jews.

:siilaanyolaugh:

 

[Yaquub]

Ethiopians made the Yemeni Arabs their es for quite awhile. They colonized them centuries back. And if I recall correctly, the Bible does talk disparagingly about "Cush" a couple of times. I wonder if Ethiopians and Cushites as a whole are considered evil people in Abrahamic religions. Someone once told me that the evil Pharaoh who attacked Musa and enslaved the Jews was probably a Cushite.

 

[Yaquub]

Divine intervention is why far-right guys like Pharoah and Abraha, who hated the Hebrews and Arabs with a passion, where targeted and killed. Outside of the religious context, Pharoah and the Ethiopian king were the good guys who didn’t underestimate the threat of the Hebrew slaves and the Arab savages on their nation’s survival and tried to control them. They’re basically anti-heroes (neither heroes nor villains).

I agree god hates cushites because the last time the left them unchecked they became the first kings after the flood (nimrod) and built a tower to confront him in the heavens, something he let whites do today in the form of space stations and not towers like babel. He knew the cushites were more capable then foolish cadaan.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

I agree god hates cushites because the last time the left them unchecked they became the first kings after the flood (nimrod) and built a tower to confront him in the heavens, something he let whites do today in the form of space stations and not towers like babel. He knew the cushites were more capable then foolish cadaan.

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Are you blind? That's not a Cushite lmao. That's a drawing of a Madow.

 

[Yaquub]

I think in the bible it refers to Ham who was the son of Noah as cursed. And Ham, which is where the word hamatic comes from, was the father of Kush, which is where the word cushite comes from.

So according to the bible all hamites are cursed including cushites.

Either way, Somalis aren’t cushite, it has nothing to with us.

Canaan was cursed by noah not god and racists always bring that up like the hebrew israelites that say whites are cursed because god said in obadiah he hated their forefather Esau. Nowhere did it say ham was cursed in the bible in fact if we trust that twisted book then we should note that ppl were turned white as a punishment.

 

[Yaquub]

This part of Ethiopian history i admire, although most of the foot soldiers that fought for the Cushitic Xabesha were Madow/nilote mercenaries. Overall, the Xabesha built an impressive empire back in those days.

Yep the arabs shat themselves that and kept telling that story ever since.

 

[munira]

Canaan was cursed by noah not god and racists always bring that up like the hebrew israelites that say whites are cursed because god said in obadiah he hated their forefather Esau. Nowhere did it say ham was cursed in the bible in fact if we trust that twisted book then we should note that ppl were turned white as a punishment.

I didn’t say to trust in the bible lol. I’m just saying all these biblical terms of hamatic, Cushitic, Semitic, etc is nonsense when it comes to how modern humans classify themselves.

 

[Yaquub]

Yaquub

Speaking of the elephants fairytale, how come these birds never showed up when the first Alqaeda terrorists invaded and captured Mecca and soon after the Haj 1979, they massacred hundreds of pilgrims, only for French special forces to enter the Ka3ba and liberate it from the terrorists? Maybe they are all dead and couldn’t be revived.

@Steamdevolopment

Because saudis are a secret jew family and they have and ever since continued to taint the holy mosques and this is why it will be destroyed in the end times.

 

[Yaquub]

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Are you blind? That's not a Cushite lmao. That's a drawing of a Madow.

I couldn't find a cushite...Draw one yourself!!