Abraha and the army of elephants

[Yaquub]

All i recall is that he was livid with an arab urinating on his newly built church (talk about violation) and he mustered up an an ethiopian army filled with elephants to crush the kaaba in order to teach the disrespectful Arabs a lesson. In terms of diplomacy, i think the Arab chiefs should have payed for the insult of the trouble maker who deliberately desecrated the ethiopian place of worship.

What are your thoughts on this? would the Arabs be slaves now if not for divine intervention?

 

[CaliSomali]

Ethiopians made the Yemeni Arabs their es for quite awhile. They colonized them centuries back. And if I recall correctly, the Bible does talk disparagingly about "Cush" a couple of times. I wonder if Ethiopians and Cushites as a whole are considered evil people in Abrahamic religions. Someone once told me that the evil Pharaoh who attacked Musa and enslaved the Jews was probably a Cushite.

 

[HIGH PRIESTESS]

Divine intervention is why far-right guys like Pharoah and Abraha, who hated the Hebrews and Arabs with a passion, where targeted and killed. Outside of the religious context, Pharoah and the Ethiopian king were the good guys who didn’t underestimate the threat of the Hebrew slaves and the Arab savages on their nation’s survival and tried to control them. They’re basically anti-heroes (neither heroes nor villains).

 

[munira]

Ethiopians made the Yemeni Arabs their es for quite awhile. They colonized them centuries back. And if I recall correctly, the Bible does talk disparagingly about "Cush" a couple of times. I wonder if Ethiopians and Cushites as a whole are considered evil people in Abrahamic religions. Someone once told me that the evil Pharaoh who attacked Musa and enslaved the Jews was probably a Cushite.

I think in the bible it refers to Ham who was the son of Noah as cursed. And Ham, which is where the word hamatic comes from, was the father of Kush, which is where the word cushite comes from.

So according to the bible all hamites are cursed including cushites.

Either way, Somalis aren’t cushite, it has nothing to with us.

 

[HIGH PRIESTESS]

Ethiopians made the Yemeni Arabs their es for quite awhile. They colonized them centuries back. And if I recall correctly, the Bible does talk disparagingly about "Cush" a couple of times. I wonder if Ethiopians and Cushites as a whole are considered evil people in Abrahamic religions. Someone once told me that the evil Pharaoh who attacked Musa and enslaved the Jews was probably a Cushite.

Pharaoh, am Egyptian, was most DEFINITELY a Hamite, which is where Cushites come from. The old Israelites probably looked like us too, as when Moses was adopted into the Pharaoh’s family, his Israeli phenotype did not give away his identity. Science has shown that we Somalis, as well as fellow northeast African Hamites and Western Semites have a common ancestor, the Natufians, who resided in modern day Israel.

 

[CaliSomali]

I think in the bible it refers to Ham who was the son of Noah as cursed. And Ham, which is where the word hamatic comes from, was the father of Kush, which is where the word cushite comes from.

So according to the bible all hamites are cursed including cushites.

Either way, Somalis aren’t cushite, it has nothing to with us.

We're more Cushitic than Ethiopians lol. They have Omotic and Semitic admixture in their phenotype. And if we're not Cushitic, what are we?

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

This part of Ethiopian history i admire, although most of the foot soldiers that fought for the Cushitic Xabesha were Madow/nilote mercenaries. Overall, the Xabesha built an impressive empire back in those days.

 

[munira]

We're more Cushitic than Ethiopians lol. They have Omotic and Semitic admixture in their phenotype. And if we're not Cushitic, what are we?

Cushitic in general is a fake identity, it doesn’t exist lmao.

 

[HIGH PRIESTESS]

Cushitic in general is a fake identity, it doesn’t exist lmao.

I like it. It links us to our fellow Cushitic brothers and sisters like the Saho, Beja and Afar peoples. Our languages, customs and histories are very similar, nearly identical, and an active relationship with them will help to strengthen our people’s unity and sovereignty across the Horn.

 

[CaliSomali]

Cushitic in general is a fake identity, it doesn’t exist lmao.

Really? Why is Cushitic a made up term, but Semitic isn't? It's used by geneticists to group us in with others of a shared race. Afars, Beja, Oromo, etc. are Cushitic, while Arabs and Jews are Semitic.

 

[HIGH PRIESTESS]

Really? Why is Cushitic a made up term, but Semitic isn't? It's used by geneticists to group us in with others of a shared race. Afars, Beja, Oromo, etc. are Cushitic, while Arabs and Jews are Semitic.

Exactly. You can’t really deny the ethno-linguistic connections between Somalis and other Cushites.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

Cushitic in general is a fake identity, it doesn’t exist lmao.

It does exist lol. It's simply a label for the natives of the Horn(including Bejas) that share a common origin & features. In a similar fashion, the labels Nordic/Germanic are used to group the natives of North West Europe.

Horner/Cushite race:

Somalis:

Xabesha:

 

[munira]

I like it. It links us to our fellow Cushitic brothers and sisters like the Saho, Beja and Afar peoples. Our languages, customs and histories are very similar, nearly identical, and an active relationship with them will help to strengthen our people’s unity and sovereignty across the Horn.

You like it because it links us with other ethnic groups? Just because it creates a false sense of unity doesn’t mean it’s true.

 

[munira]

Really? Why is Cushitic a made up term, but Semitic isn't? It's used by geneticists to group us in with others of a shared race. Afars, Beja, Oromo, etc. are Cushitic, while Arabs and Jews are Semitic.

It is a made up term. The term semetic comes from the name Sam, who was the child of Noah (as). Semeitc could include other descendants of Sam not just Arabs and jews who are the descendants of Abraham (as).

 

[BankaTuyo]

All i recall is that he was livid with an arab urinating on his newly built church (talk about violation) and he mustered up an an ethiopian army filled with elephants to crush the kaaba in order to teach the disrespectful Arabs a lesson. In terms of diplomacy, i think the Arab chiefs should have payed for the insult of the trouble maker who deliberately desecrated the ethiopian place of worship.

What are your thoughts on this? would the Arabs be slaves now if not for divine intervention?

They will do it again in the end times, only they'll succeed with the second attempt. they'll level the ka'aba and holy mosque and will be the end of it. that is why i hate the habeshas with a passion, nacalaa hooyadood iyo aabahood iyo isirkoodaba ku yaallee.

 

[munira]

It does exist lol. It's simply a label for the natives of the Horn(including Bejas) that share a common origin & features. In a similar fashion, the labels Nordic/Germanic are used to group the natives of North West Europe.

Horner/Cushite race:

Somalis:

Xabesha:

Yes Somalis do share similar phenotype with oromos, afaris, etc. However you can’t jump to the conclusion we have the similar ancestor of ‘Cush’ based of our looks.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

Yes Somalis do share similar phenotype with oromos, afaris, etc. However you can’t jump to the conclusion we have the similar ancestor of ‘Cush’ based of our looks.

Genetics already confirms that we share a common origin with all North-East African Cushites. We originated from the Nile Valley(South Egypt & North Sudan).

 

[munira]

Genetics already confirms that we share a common origin with all North-East African Cushites. We originated from the Nile Valley(South Egypt & North Sudan).

Our haplogroup doesn’t confirm we originated from north east Africa. Who taught you such nonsense?

Somalis are native to the horn.

 

[government]

I hate the name cushite. First of all it has the name shit in it secondly it's just a linguistic group lastly how can a noble Arab like me be put in the same bracket as rendeille

 

[AussieHustler]

Yaquub

Speaking of the elephants fairytale, how come these birds never showed up when the first Alqaeda terrorists invaded and captured Mecca and soon after the Haj 1979, they massacred hundreds of pilgrims, only for French special forces to enter the Ka3ba and liberate it from the terrorists? Maybe they are all dead and couldn’t be revived.

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