A fight breaks out between xaliimos (jarerwyne) vs madoow-Mareykan

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I guess Nabi Muhammad(SAW) is not Arab because his ancestor Ibrahim (AS) was babalonyian. I guess African Americans are cadaan because they are paternally Europeans. Ethnicity is a cultural thing that has a lot to do with assimilation unlike clan. That is why some Somalis are different sub haplogroups and different haplogroups thousands of years ago. There is no common ancestor for an ethnicity but there is for tribe. Learn the difference between the two garac yahoo.

The lineage associated with Ibrahim aleyhi salaam and most Adnani Arabs FGC11 has long deep roots in Arabia. Ibrahim Aleyhi salaam’s story starts in Iraq but in all likelihood his ancestors were semites that came from the southern parts of Arabia.

 

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Keep your bullshit "ethnicity is cultural" away. Somali is a distinct ethnic group.

Arabs descend from ibrahim you idiot. Ethnic groups diverge and create new ethnicities. Somali and Oromo split 7,000 years ago and became seperate ethnic groups.
African Americans just have European admixture, average is 30% or less. They are still 70-80% West african dumbass.

Sure somalis may have different haplogroups, so what? They don't tell the full picture. If you get 2 somalis and 1 chinese and do a dna test. It will show the somalis are related and cluster together whilst the Chinese man's genetics will be vastly different to the somalis. Ethnicity is a real thing don't bring that leftist revisionist nonsense. Assimilation is a thing, no one says bantus weren't assimilated, we are saying they are not the same as ethnic somalis which is a genetic Fact you cannot argue with.

Like the other guy said, you cannot just assimilate into another ethnicity. You have your blood. I as a Somali cannot go to China and speak Chinese adopt their culture and say I am an ethnic Han Chinese. That doesn't make sense, genetically I am not related to Chinese people at all.
You can have admixture but that still doesn't make you a part of an ethnicity, my great grandmother was Yemeni, ca I go around and say I'm Arab? Ofc not, that's just admixture, I am a somali.

Likewise, African Americans have English and Scottish admixture but if they go to England and claim ethnic English they will be laughed at because that's ridiculous. They are still essentially west africans with some north European admixture just like somali Bantus are south east Africans with some Somali admixture.

Arabs are older than Ibrahim aleyhi salaam. Only a small fraction of Arabs have roots going back to Ibrahim.

Somalis and Oromo didn’t split 7000 years ago. Are you talking about language or lineage?

 

[Khaem]

This is a Madow weyne subclan in Hiiraan.
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"BUT BUT" DEY AR ADMIXED"


Amuus and sit down. Nobody in Somalia knows what Bantu is. Somalia Somaali baa leh. J'reer iy Jileec. We are all admixed one way or the other.

No we are not all admixed you fool. Somali are not mixed at all. We are a homogeneous people, denying the facts will not get you anywhere.

And yes they are admixed with ethnic somali, that's why they look somewhat somali compared to an average Bantu from madow Africa.
People in somalia know the difference between an ethnic somali and a somali Bantu stop lying to yourself. Come up north and you'll switch up quickly.

 

[Khaem]

Arabs are older than Ibrahim aleyhi salaam. Only a small fraction of Arabs have roots going back to Ibrahim.

Somalis and Oromo didn’t split 7000 years ago. Are you talking about language or lineage?

I'm taking about the language. Somali and Oromo spoke the same language about 7,000 years ago until it split. At least that's what I read somewhere once.

Abgeschlossenes Projekt

www.eth.mpg.de

 

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I'm taking about the language. Somali and Oromo spoke the same language about 7,000 years ago until it split. At least that's what I read somewhere once.

Abgeschlossenes Projekt

www.eth.mpg.de

7000 is way too old. We were still on the borders of Sudan and Egypt on the eastern desert 3500-4000 years ago. I assume the Oromo and Somali (proto south low land east Cushitic) separated 3000 years ago.

 

[Khaem]

7000 is way too old. We were still on the borders of Sudan and Egypt on the eastern desert 3500-4000 years ago. I assume the Oromo and Somali (proto south low land east Cushitic) separated 3000 years ago.

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Ah that probably makes better sense judging by how somali and oromo still are a bit similar which would be unlikely in a 7,000 year split.

 

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Ah that probably makes better sense judging by how somali and oromo still are a bit similar which would be unlikely in a 7,000 year split.

Also this graph is not actually accurate with the various AA branches and how they relate. The latest census is according to Semitic language students is that Berber is the closest language to Semitic. Cushitic is the 2nd closest language to Semitic.

 

[Angelina]

Arabs existed before Ismael wallahi I have never seen such a doqan like this in history talking about basics. The arabs who are arabized are from Ismael. They have distinct DNA and different haplgroups than those who are not. As for the Somali jweyne being distinct, that is true but they still look Somali for the most part.

Wasiir Cabdifatax Qasim (J-weyne)

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Omar Filish (Abgaal)

These two are not different ethnicities for sure.

Don’t lie. When I was in Xamar I was able to see a huge difference between an Abgaal and a Madowweyne. The vast majority look distinct. Are you going to get a miniority who overlap or might have Madowweyne mix yes! But most of the time the difference is there. Also, a lot of the Somali Bantu I saw in Xamar looked very Bantu and looked just like the people of Mozambique of Tanzania. So get out of here with your nonsense.

 

[Angelina]

No we are not all admixed you fool. Somali are not mixed at all. We are a homogeneous people, denying the facts will not get you anywhere.

And yes they are admixed with ethnic somali, that's why they look somewhat somali compared to an average Bantu from madow Africa.
People in somalia know the difference between an ethnic somali and a somali Bantu stop lying to yourself. Come up north and you'll switch up quickly.

You’re right! I’ve been to Xamar and the difference is glaringly obvious. The first time I went back home when I was younger I was ignorant and I even asked by father when I was passing an area with a lot of Bantus why there was a lot of Nigerian looking people. I was younger then so now I obviously don’t think they look Nigerian but more Ugandan or Mozambique but at the time, the difference between Ethnic Abgaals and Madowweyne was so intense I thought Bantus looked West African.