The 25th anniversary of the failed Carta Conference.

[Devilsadvocate]

The Carta Conference, influenced by Ismail Omar Guelleh, created the 4.5 clan power-sharing formula that still exists today. This system marginalises some Somalis by labeling them as only “0.5” and has led to the failure to complete the constitution and years of foreign interference. It’s disgusting that the FGS or Djibouti is spreading propaganda to the youth by paying influencers to attend and promote this event on social media. If Somali politicians/clan elders had any common sense they would boycott this event. So far only Farmaajo and Abdiqasim have refused to attend.

Spoiler: Propaganda by the FGS or Djibouti

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[Jaffar]

The day Djibouti saved the Somali republic

 

[TheLand]

How so?

 

[TheLand]

Did you make the poster yourself? Looks fake.

 

[Jaffar]

It’s the best thing that ever happened to Somalia had ismaciil Cumar Geele not stepped in. Somaliland would be a recognized country now . Thank Djibouti and Geele for keeping Somalia together 4,5 works the four big clans and the minorities every country has majority and minority nothing wrong majority rules minority rights .

 

[Jaffar]

Ina cigaal was planning to hold a conference for Somalia in 1999 2000 in Hargeisa with the aim of crowning him self president of Somalia and moving the capital to Hargeisa and then later make Somaliland break off with the blessing of him as a the head of the Somali state . Ina geele knew this and took the opportunity and held the conference in Djibouti and thus saved the unity of Somalia

 

[Devilsadvocate]

It’s the best thing that ever happened to Somalia had ismaciil Cumar Geele not stepped in. Somaliland would be a recognized country now .

Why would SL being a recognised country be a problem for you? I’ve seen you support secession multiple times.

Thank Djibouti and Geele for keeping Somalia together 4,5 works the four big clans and the minorities every country has majority and minority nothing wrong majority rules minority rights .

Guelleh didn’t keep Somalia together he made it even more divided. Why would you even support a system where people can’t vote and decisions are made by a small circle of elites? That’s not real representation or democracy. I think you must be Djiboutian.

 

[Devilsadvocate]

Did you make the poster yourself? Looks fake.

Nope. I found it on twitter, those people are in Djibouti right now spreading propaganda on TikTok.

 

[Jaffar]

Why would SL being a recognised country be a problem for you? I’ve seen you support secession multiple times.

Guelleh didn’t keep Somalia together he made it even more divided. Why would you even support a system where people can’t vote and decisions are made by a small circle of elites? That’s not real representation or democracy. I think you must be Djiboutian.

I never said I wanted to see the break apart Somalia I always said we need to remodel Somalia and build a parallel government in somalia and move away from Mogadishu I also like Osman plan of 99 year review of the union every century not full independence maybe confederal or federal .

 

[TheLand]

Ina cigaal was planning to hold a conference for Somalia in 1999 2000 in Hargeisa with the aim of crowning him self president of Somalia and moving the capital to Hargeisa and then later make Somaliland break off with the blessing of him as a the head of the Somali state . Ina geele knew this and took the opportunity and held the conference in Djibouti and thus saved the unity of Somalia

How, when Mbagathi was necessary and Ina Salaad Booy failed to even step foot in Villa Somalia due to mooriyaan from his own subclan?

 

[Jaffar]

Do you think if cigaal was elected president he would be powerless he would just make Hargeisa the capital and make very one else come there the attempt of ina cigaal was stopped by ina geele. He said it him self I can crown my self president of Somalia and all the warlords in Mogadishu will surrender to me in days

 

[TheLand]

Do you think if cigaal was elected president he would be powerless he would just make Hargeisa the capital and make very one else come there the attempt of ina cigaal was stopped by ina geele. He said it him self I can crown my self president of Somalia and all the warlords in Mogadishu will surrender to me in days

Very strange narrative.

 

[Jaffar]

He said if him self he said it him self it will take me a few months to control all of. Somalia my problem is my population in Somaliland are emotional and will try to fight me if I try to rule Mogadishu . My biggest concern aren’t the 8 warlords fighting over Mogadishu my biggest concern are the Hargeisa Burco population who hate anything Somalia and. Will riot against me . This is what ina cigaal him self said

 

[TheLand]

He said if him self he said it him self it will take me a few months to control all of. Somalia my problem is my population in Somaliland are emotional and will try to fight me if I try to rule Mogadishu . My biggest concern aren’t the 8 warlords fighting over Mogadishu my biggest concern are the Hargeisa Burco population who hate anything Somalia and. Will riot against me . This is what ina cigaal him self said

Proof?

 

[Noble]

The Carta Conference, influenced by Ismail Omar Guelleh, created the 4.5 clan power-sharing formula that still exists today. This system marginalises some Somalis by labeling them as only “0.5” and has led to the failure to complete the constitution and years of foreign interference. It’s disgusting that the FGS or Djibouti is spreading propaganda to the youth by paying influencers to attend and promote this event on social media. If Somali politicians/clan elders had any common sense they would boycott this event. So far only Farmaajo and Abdiqasim have refused to attend.

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Abdiqasim refusing is intresting his goverment was born from Arta
too bad Artas legacy was destroyed by warlords
Guelleh didnt create 4.5 thats propoganda.

 

[Noble]

Ina cigaal was planning to hold a conference for Somalia in 1999 2000 in Hargeisa with the aim of crowning him self president of Somalia and moving the capital to Hargeisa and then later make Somaliland break off with the blessing of him as a the head of the Somali state . Ina geele knew this and took the opportunity and held the conference in Djibouti and thus saved the unity of Somalia

source

 

[Jaffar]

proof that he said it well we can do or find interviews by people who claim this , but it isnt a secret ina cigaal wanted to hold a peace conference in hargeisa and only djibouti was the one that stopped him this is a well known fact you can look it all up.,

 

[moosaid]

proof that he said it well we can do or find interviews by people who claim this , but it isnt a secret ina cigaal wanted to hold a peace conference in hargeisa and only djibouti was the one that stopped him this is a well known fact you can look it all up.,

Fake news This never happened; on the contrary, it was the opponents of cigaal who wanted to make Hargeisa the temporary capital, and there was acceptance of this idea in Muqdiy but they failed.

 

[Jaffar]

Fake news This never happened; on the contrary, it was the opponents of cigaal who wanted to make Hargeisa the temporary capital, and there was acceptance of this idea in Muqdiy but they failed.

you have no idea what you are talkin gabout the opponents of cigaal had issues with the state of Somaliland being independent again.. there was never an issue on that in 199 2000 the issue had long be resolved