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The borders of Somaliland are not based on clan , it's based on the borders of the state of Somaliland (1960) that was determined by Britain, and if your clan falls within that border , you're a Somalilander whether you like it or not , and we will secure that border. And before Siyaads nephew...

How dare you even compare the two :westbrookwtf: One controls a whole country , save for a few irrelevant tuulos that will soon be under our dominion and one controls the capital and a few pockets of land here and there. This map is outdated though since we captured Tukaraq and boocame...

Ancient Egyptians are ancestral to modern Egyptians , and even though there have been numerous conquests of Egypt by foreign powers , genetic evidence indicates that those invasions didn't greatly affect the genetic make up of Egypt. They had a greater affect linguistically and culturally...

Here are a couple Screenshots from the 23andme Forum that shows 2 Habar Awal T carriers , one claims Sacad Musa , and going by the username of the other dude "Berberawi" he's most likely Ciise Musse (screenshots from thenatophiliac somnet).

Yes , all the Habar Awal that have posted and shared their results publicly (outside the DNA companies) to my knowledge, have all been E-V32. But that doesn't include the ones who took the tests and didn't share it publicly. Unfortunately i don't have access to 23andme and the numerous other...

Didn't say Gunbuur took Big Y or Yfull. :manny: We reading the same comment :ayaanswag: I said the Arreh Saeed took Yfull , but i meant Big Y and i corrected myself in another comment and the only thing i said about Gunbuur is that he had less markers tested than the Arreh Saeed. Which is...

Thanks for the correction sxb :nvjpqts: I misread what esteban wrote. We belong to T1a1a2 subclade with out Z19971. T1a1a2 (x Z19971) The "x" meaning we lack it , unlike our brother sub-clade.

Garowe Somaliland has a nice ring to it :lolbron: To thank Gaas for his surrender we shall appoint him Mayor of Garowe and Minister of Wasaarada Cuntada :siilaanyolaugh:

The humiliation continues...

Big Y i meant.

We haven't shared a father with E1b1b Isaaqs for over 50,000 years :damn::deadrose: Mila Kunis tho :whoo:

Oral history is usually unreliable , but if the case of the Lembas teaches us anything it is that Oral history can sometimes be based in actual truth.

I believe that will be the case too. Just need further confirmation to cement the already indisputable fact of the Garxajis T lineage.

Sweet :obama: Now all we need is the Ciidagale to take more tests from their diverse subclans.

We have Baho and Sugulle Caynaanshe (Xirsi Cisman) T's , Gunbuur T (Xildiid Cisman) and the ilma carre T's. Basically the whole clan tree from top to bottom. It's a shut case fort HY :win:

Yes i'm aware. I think the man who took the test belongs to the Muse Carre , Muse Ismacill or the Yoonis Ismaciil , because it's unusual for the sub clans further down to claim Carre Saciid , they usually go by their recent awoows, i could be mistaken though.

Apparently the Garhajis , Dir and Al-Faraj belong to T-Z19971 according to Esteban , which has TMRCA at 6500 ybp. https://www.yfull.com/tree/T-Z19971/

I can say confidently that HY is 99% Haplogroup T, as you can see the individuals who took the test are from many sub clans , so there's little to no bias. :rejoice:

Arreh Saeed (HY) Y16897 confirmed. He did indeed take the Yfull as all marker spots are full. Though weirdly FTDNA hasn't updated his result , but they did with the Gunbuur fella above him who had less markers tested. There is also a Kuwaiti who's grouped with us. Wonder if he's from the Al-Faraj ?

@Jas We trusted you , Jaamacatu DNA trusted YOU :ufdup: You let us down :wow: