1k AMISOM troops gone

TSP · Dec 27, 2017

Thegoodshepherd said:
It is impossible to expect anything other than a tribal militia at this point. Even now there is no SNA, just a Hawiye militia based in Mogadishu calling itself that. Your best hope are clan militia that clear out their clan territory while receiving their pay through the federal government. The creation of a multiclan army will take decades, time that Somalia does not have.

You can either be practical and go for the clan militia solution which is the proven route, or be ideological and try to create a "rainbow coalition" that will probably melt away at the first encounter. Any army you build in Somalia will of course be a Somali army, we are arguing as to how it should be structured.

If we fail to integrate the SNA there won’t be at all true peace in Somalia. It’ll be more like early 2000’s if anything if we go down this path with people putting their tribe over country leading to countless of skirmishes.

A multi-clan approach is the only way forward to a stable Somalia. Better to go through growing pains as a coalition than to see the same people battling over resources in the next century

XamarCade · Dec 28, 2017

TSP said:
If we fail to integrate the SNA there won’t be at all true peace in Somalia. It’ll be more like early 2000’s if anything if we go down this path with people putting their tribe over country leading to countless of skirmishes.

A multi-clan approach is the only way forward to a stable Somalia. Better to go through growing pains as a coalition than to see the same people battling over resources in the next century

usheeg, the status quo got the kenyans breaking up beled xaawo,

in 1 second they cry and complain about how Hawiye are the majority in the SNA, but when the door is opened for them and encouraged to join SNA they want to say no it's better if we just continue with tribal militias :zhqjlmx:

Weather they join/support it or not no 1 gives a shit :icon e biggrin:

Truth is they see a strong SNA as a threat to their joke federalism state bullshit, that's why they rather see Amisom stay, quite sad :francis:

Hassan Garguute Buldanana · Dec 28, 2017

I got excited for a minute of the thought of fufus going and the formation of a strong national army.

Then i remembered the folks we dealing with

:drakekidding:

TSP · Dec 28, 2017

XamarCade said:
usheeg, the status quo got the kenyans breaking up beled xaawo,

in 1 second they cry and complain about how Hawiye are the majority in the SNA, but when the door is opened for them and encouraged to join SNA they want to say no it's better if we just continue with tribal militias
Weather they join/support it or not no 1 gives a shit

Truth is they see a strong SNA as a threat to their joke federalism state bullshit, that's why they rather see Amisom stay, quite sad

What’s going in BX is the reason why I’ll always be pro-centralism. A tribal state can’t do anything for it’s people against a modern nation

Abdalla · Dec 28, 2017

No matter how relatively reasonable and normal they seem to be, they'll always have a case of Majeerteentitis. @Jiron you can hide your cuqdad but you caný hide your likes. Welcome to my target list. ass thought he could enter the politics section without being scrutinised.

XamarCade · Dec 28, 2017

Abdalla said:
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No matter how relatively reasonable and normal they seem to be, they'll always have a case of Majeerteentitis. @Jiron you can hide your cuqdad but you caný hide your likes. Welcome to my target list. ass thought he could enter the politics section without being scrutinised.

What are u crying about this time sheikh ibnu @Abdalla , what did poor ol @Jiron do to u? Even I like to give likes to non Hawiye posters, this doesn't prove shit.

Jiron · Dec 28, 2017

For what it’s worth, I don’t remember liking that post rereading it now, I try to be neutral or generally stay away from qabyaalad related posts if I’m not discouraging it. Jiron loves everyone equally

Hassan Garguute Buldanana · Dec 28, 2017

Abdalla said:
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No matter how relatively reasonable and normal they seem to be, they'll always have a case of Majeerteentitis. @Jiron you can hide your cuqdad but you caný hide your likes. Welcome to my target list. ass thought he could enter the politics section without being scrutinised.

Abdalla · Dec 28, 2017

XamarCade said:
What are u crying about this time sheikh ibnu @Abdalla , what did poor ol @Jiron do to u? Even I like to give likes to non Hawiye posters, this doesn't prove shit.

Sheikhuna i thought we had a gentleman's understanding? You don't see me enter your beefs, I expect the same courtesy. This is a beef between me and that passive aggressive nigga jiron.

Jiron said:
For what it’s worth, I don’t remember liking that post rereading it now, I try to be neutral or generally stay away from qabyaalad related posts if I’m not discouraging it. Jiron loves everyone equally

Well it was a highly inflammatory post and you liked it. If you don't remember liking it, then go unlike it. If you don't then you just accumulated an enemy.

saywalahi · Dec 28, 2017

Abdalla said:
Sheikhuna i thought we had a gentleman's understanding? You don't see me enter your beefs, I expect the same courtesy. This is a beef between me and that passive aggressive nigga jiron.

Well it was a highly inflammatory post and you liked it. If you don't remember liking it, then go unlike it. If you don't then you just accumulated an enemy.

Why u going after my ratings :ileycry:

Jiron · Dec 28, 2017

I dislike taking back likes/hearts and other praises I leave on posts as it’s something so rare of me doing, but given the situation I am forced to because the post contains language that I do not support.

@Abdalla , I have taking back the like, now I would appreciate a lot, if u and brotha @saywalahi made peace. I believe we all share the same hope and aspirations for Somalia but we might see things differently. That’s ok, but let us recognize that we are all in this together

Abdalla · Dec 28, 2017

Me and @Jiron reached an agreement. I wish Somali leaders would take our example in de-escalating a tense situation. Jiron it's very honorable of you to accept my olive branch. I consider this a closed chapter.

Jiron · Dec 28, 2017

Abdalla said:
Me and @Jiron reached an agreement. I wish Somali leaders would take our example in de-escalating a tense situation. Jiron it's very honorable of you to accept my olive branch. I consider this a closed chapter.

I appreciate your post and the overall conclusion of this situation. In the future, I hope we all solve misunderstandings through simple dialogue like this.

Thank u

Alpo · Dec 28, 2017

This is good. Hopefully we'll be able to deal with our own security before they all leave.

These Madows are taking caano boro and shitload of other cheap arab products on the plane with them when they go home. :drakelaugh:

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