Potential Solution for Droughts

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Interesting idea.

There is a pilot in Somaliland that's a bit similar but on a much larger scale.

https://seawatergreenhouse.com/somaliland

The design is different but you'd end up with similar end results.



However for farms or livestock the costs of electrity used for cooling would have to be cheap enough to make it viable.

Water for human consumption is already available and it's just mainly a logistics issue.

It's probably cheaper to send water by truck to different villages then what you would pay for power per litre of water created.

In regards to solution to the drought...

You can tackle the symptoms of drought by moving pastoralists to where you could build a market for cheap commercial feed and access to cheap water.

100k hectares could produce enough feed for a couple million sheep.

It's also a good idea to help them find another livelihood other than pastoralism.

Help improve the quality of their livestock and organize them so that they could get better prices.

Create factories locally to turn them into value added products to get some revenue to the government/NGOs etc or again better prices for the pastoralists.

Advice them to invest in another source of income or atleast find a way to make their livelihoods a bit more stable by relying on the market for feedstock.

Once you reach a certain price for their livestock (by selling higher value meat products produced by a co-op) then droughts don't matter as much anymore

You could just import what you need from Kenyan or Tanzanian farms by sea.

Only issue is balancing foreign currency as you have to make sure there are customers for your exports.

Solving the droughts in general would be a lot more difficult as you'll need to carry out a massive reforestation campaign along with other large geo-engineering tactics that no one has tried before.

I would assume we'd either have to cool the region cheaply (reforestation and artificial lakes could help) or use a brute force approach if we had unlimited energy and man power.

The rain shadow from the rift valley will always be in the way so we won't get any cooler air from the West to help with rain.

Maybe the hydrologist on the site could put forward viable ideas on how we could make it rain over a 60 million hectares regularly without moving mountains or irrigating all of Somalia.

How about a one child policy and not overpopulating a desert.

Fertility rate of 5 is not sustainable in a climate like that of Somalia.

Amun said:

How about a one child policy and not overpopulating a desert.

Fertility rate of 5 is not sustainable in a climate like that of Somalia.

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Try enforcing that in Somalia.

I'm pretty sure people will use Islam to protest it and hamper enforcement.

Anyways I'd rather have more Somalis (we're tiny compared to our neighbours); we just need to stop relying on the weather for our food security.

RasCanjero said:

Try enforcing that in Somalia.

I'm pretty sure people will use Islam to protest it and hamper enforcement.

Anyways I'd rather have more Somalis (we're tiny compared to our neighbours); we just need to stop relying on the weather for our food security.

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The population situation in Niger is even more depressing. Those fools are already at 21 million and have a fertility rate of 7. Their land is even worse than Somalia.

something like this could be used for somalia basically providing seasonal grazing lands for a whole community a coop thing this map was made in 1951 and has a lot of clan names on the lands but now it should be named after the districts

Call from the hottest place in Ogaden, appernetly rain has fallen so hard that the floor stopped becoming hot

felloff said:

something like this could be used for somalia basically providing seasonal grazing lands for a whole community a coop thing this map was made in 1951 and has a lot of clan names on the lands but now it should be named after the districts

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This. Grazing land should be seasonally distributed. Once a harvest has been collected, that land should be allowed to rest and recuperate.

Cold air has to come from somewhere.

Using electricity to convert hot air into cold air requires a lot of energy.

There's a good reason why it's not common yet.

The better solution is heavily invest in solar energy and then invest into desalination plants.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/israel-proves-the-desalination-era-is-here/

It's not just that, over 90% of Israel water sources are reused

https://www.rwlwater.com/israel-leads-world-in-water-recycling/

There is enough water to sustain the entire country's population , it's just a matter of know how and capital, on the other hand the livestock needs to be reduced only for domestic use, which then produces a vaccume of labour and send them all of the sea/ocean, and viola problem solved.

Prince Abubu said:

This. Grazing land should be seasonally distributed. Once a harvest has been collected, that land should be allowed to rest and recuperate.

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or all livestock should be moved to thoose lands and a company manages their animals and feeds and waters them, then every year after the sale of the animals dividends are given out.

I did water harvesting projects for my major. There are so many ways to collect drinkable water. We are just too lazy.

ArchBishopofAtheism said:

I don't know if anyone proposed this idea, but here I go. So, what if we installed giant, hollow aluminum containers/cans on a support, filled it with very cold air, and collected the water that will condense on the outside of it? There's always moisture in the air and the bigger the container, the more water that will condense, meaning more drinking water is available. It would be fairly simple too. Here's a depiction (an amateurish one) of this idea. Discuss the feasibility of this plan.

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You can gain water By morning dew.

There is a design use by Libyan



This net catches morning dew and gets filled by a Container.

felloff said:

something like this could be used for somalia basically providing seasonal grazing lands for a whole community a coop thing this map was made in 1951 and has a lot of clan names on the lands but now it should be named after the districts

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Link?

We have enough rains in the summer that is running off to the sea. All we have to do is capture it.

Build stepwells along dry riverbed course.