Death in Dubai: #DubaiPortaPotty - BBC Africa Eye Documentary

Mohamedamiin120

Marxist-Leninist, OG.
Most Somalis outside the West have non-Muslim domestic workers but you never hear such abuse. Most Somali families take care of them and support them, even after they are gone.
Remember that unlike in Somalia and other Shafi'i majority/influenced countries the Arab Khaleej did not tend to emancipate the children of Slaves.

Combine this with the fact that they already had a round of abusing Bantu Kaffirs to the bone (actual chattel slavery) and it's clear to see how they would think it's the natural state of some people to be under them, and how that leads to them rationalizing away abuse.
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I’ve heard about the Potty story. It’s really sad and bizarre how people would put themselves in that position. But if they want to make money it’s their choice. Really :kanyeshrug::manny:
A lot of the women in these situation are coerced and lied to. I have read they would tempt them with modelling opportunities in dubai then only give them raunchy gigs and it keeps escalating. These people are grooming at an industrial level.

I wouldnt pass judgement too fast to these women unless we know a fuller picture.
 

Mohamedamiin120

Marxist-Leninist, OG.
A lot of the women in these situation are coerced and lied to. I have read they would tempt them with modelling opportunities in dubai then only give them raunchy gigs and it keeps escalating. These people are grooming at an industrial level.

I wouldnt pass judgement too fast to these women unless we know a fuller picture.
Audhubillah
 

Galool

VIP
Remember that unlike in Somalia and other Shafi'i majority/influenced countries the Arab Khaleej did not tend to emancipate the children of Slaves.

Combine this with the fact that they already had a round of abusing Bantu Kaffirs to the bone (actual chattel slavery) and it's clear to see how they would think it's the natural state of some people to be under them, and how that leads to them rationalizing away abuse.
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Keeping slaves is sanctioned in Islam, but it has its rulings. How they are acquired matters. Also, torture is not sanctioned.

Islam regardless of madhab teached good character.

So that does not excuse it.

It has less to do with Islam. It is obviously bad people sinning and acting against the deen.
 

Galool

VIP
A lot of the women in these situation are coerced and lied to. I have read they would tempt them with modelling opportunities in dubai then only give them raunchy gigs and it keeps escalating. These people are grooming at an industrial level.

I wouldnt pass judgement too fast to these women unless we know a fuller picture.

Yes but everyone knows these things. It has been in the news for years. These things are not new to them and many continue to go.

It has a moral issue, its religion.
 
Yes but everyone knows these things. It has been in the news for years. These things are not new to them and many continue to go.

It has a moral issue, its religion.

I agree its a moral issue coming from these cultures. We can clearly see that since all these traffickers are from these womens communities.

But I also think its unfair to say "everyone" knows. We're not talking about the first-world instagram models when it comes to most of these women. What we see is women being tricked from more isolated areas in the world, told they will be getting modelling jobs, or normal jobs. Then when they get there they learn they have been mislead!

1. Poverty-stricken Indian women forced into prostitution in Middle East
2. Nigerian women trafficked to Dubai, A nigerian women tricking other women.
3. Trafficked from Osh, Kyrgyzstan to Dubai. (Karimova story gives us a fuller picture of how these things occur).
4. The ugandan trafficking to Dubai. Here we see a lot of women expected to work in retail and hotels.
 

Galool

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I agree its a moral issue coming from these cultures. We can clearly see that since all these traffickers are from these womens communities.

But I also think its unfair to say "everyone" knows. We're not talking about the first-world instagram models when it comes to most of these women. What we see is women being tricked from more isolated areas in the world, told they will be getting modelling jobs, or normal jobs. Then when they get there they learn they have been mislead!

1. Poverty-stricken Indian women forced into prostitution in Middle East
2. Nigerian women trafficked to Dubai, A nigerian women tricking other women.
3. Trafficked from Osh, Kyrgyzstan to Dubai. (Karimova story gives us a fuller picture of how these things occur).
4. The ugandan trafficking to Dubai. Here we see a lot of women expected to work in retail and hotels.

I am not blaming the individual women who left to get real work to support their families. I even saw one about an orphan. Tragic.

Im speaking more generally about their cultures as a whole. It should be known as general knowledge by now by the entire culture. But they dont.

While Muslims fleeing actual war know better.

I have concluded that is a religious problem which ties to morals and culture. I guess without that shift they will continue for centuries more.

May Allah SWT guide them and us all.
 

NoticeNoticer

NoticingSomeThings
There is still so much to uncover and report on. They will not retain this “clean image” they have tried to display to the world.
Yahuudi spies run that place. They even kill prominent Arabs involved in this conflict over there. UAE and soon the entire Middle East will be controlled and dominated by yahuds. Times up for the Arabs
 
Keeping slaves is sanctioned in Islam, but it has its rulings. How they are acquired matters. Also, torture is not sanctioned.

Islam regardless of madhab teached good character.

So that does not excuse it.

It has less to do with Islam. It is obviously bad people sinning and acting against the deen.
No, it is not permissible in Islam. Kidnapping people and selling them is xaraam. It was only permissible in battles because they were prisoners of war, not civilians.
 

Khal Mah Oma

Drink shaah
A lot of the women in these situation are coerced and lied to. I have read they would tempt them with modelling opportunities in dubai then only give them raunchy gigs and it keeps escalating. These people are grooming at an industrial level.

I wouldnt pass judgement too fast to these women unless we know a fuller picture.

Agreed. Well said.
 
Summary for those who don't have the time:
That influencer eating shit in the viral Dubai Porta Potty video was (allegedly) a Ugandan woman that went by Mona Kizz. Mona fell to her death from a high rise apartment. There was also another woman named Kayla from Uganda that died the same way. While investigating Mona's death, local police quickly ruled it as a suicide, not even bothering to interview her pimp or check security footage in case of foul play. It seems her pimp, a Ugandan man, was the one behind it. It's said he kills the women he traffics when they want out. Unfortunately, the documentary doesn't end up with the pimp in handcuffs.

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Watching this made me realize just how awful Uganda is. Overseas Ugandan men are selling their women at discount price to foreign men in UAE, making them do all kinds of depraved acts. Truly, these particular Bantus are a blight to humanity. They're made from the same cloth as the scum that are involved with AUSSOM. Africa needs their own Nuremberg trials ASAP, what they're doing to these ladies made me so nauseous. Execute them all.

UAE is so awful I genuinely think all of Africa should divest from it the same way they divested from South Africa, too bad many African countries are so reliant on them. What a demonic ass country. None of the men abusing these black women ever get punished probably due to how anti-black the criminal justice system and culture is. I assure you if these were women from poor post-Soviet states, they'd actually deal with these sickos. In their illegal sex industry, South Asian and black women are at the lowest rung so whatever happens to them is probably gonna be ignored.
 

Galool

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Summary for those who don't have the time:
That influencer eating shit in the viral Dubai Porta Potty video was (allegedly) a Ugandan woman that went by Mona Kizz. Mona fell to her death from a high rise apartment. There was also another woman named Kayla from Uganda that died the same way. While investigating Mona's death, local police quickly ruled it as a suicide, not even bothering to interview her pimp or check security footage in case of foul play. It seems her pimp, a Ugandan man, was the one behind it. It's said he kills the women he traffics when they want out. Unfortunately, the documentary doesn't end up with the pimp in handcuffs.

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Watching this made me realize just how awful Uganda is. Overseas Ugandan men are selling their women at discount price to foreign men in UAE, making them do all kinds of depraved acts. Truly, these particular Bantus are a blight to humanity. They're made from the same cloth as the scum that are involved with AUSSOM. Africa needs their own Nuremberg trials ASAP, what they're doing to these ladies made me so nauseous. Execute them all.

UAE is so awful I genuinely think all of Africa should divest from it the same way they divested from South Africa, too bad many African countries are so reliant on them. What a demonic ass country. None of the men abusing these black women ever get punished probably due to how anti-black the criminal justice system and culture is. I assure you if these were women from poor post-Soviet states, they'd actually deal with these sickos. In their illegal sex industry, South Asian and black women are at the lowest rung so whatever happens to them is probably gonna be ignored.

You are right about Uganda, it is awful, but that is due to the christians behaving this way and their zionist president.

The Muslims of Uganda have nothing to do with this and they are a growing community Alhamdulilah. So it has nothing to do with "bantus".

It is not about race, all the usually christian (background) women who go there and frankly go anywhere in the world to be prostitutes deal with horrible things. The only reason this stands out is because UAE a supposed Muslim country is no better then what you find in western countries and other majority poor christian nations.

One of the most famous stories out of Dubai this year was of a Ukrainian *eastern european* prostitute woman found mangled half dead on the side of the road. The story is still unclear and they also ruled it an accident or something.

And why would we care about what "Africans" do? Pan-africanism does not exist some of our biggest enemies are african states.

The world is divided by religion, not race.


 
You are right about Uganda, it is awful, but that is due to the christians behaving this way and their zionist president.

The Muslims of Uganda have nothing to do with this and they are a growing community Alhamdulilah. So it has nothing to do with "bantus".

It is not about race, all the usually christian (background) women who go there and frankly go anywhere in the world to be prostitutes deal with horrible things. The only reason this stands out is because UAE a supposed Muslim country is no better then what you find in western countries and other majority poor christian nations.

One of the most famous stories out of Dubai this year was of a Ukrainian *eastern european* prostitute woman found mangled half dead on the side of the road. The story is still unclear and they also ruled it an accident or something.

And why would we care about what "Africans" do? Pan-africanism does not exist some of our biggest enemies are african states.

The world is divided by religion, not race.


What a horrifying story, I'm relieved that she was found before she could die. I agree with your point on it being women from primarily Christian backgrounds getting wrapped up in this but that still doesn't mean there is no involvement with people that are raised Muslim. The police is most likely run by people who are Emirati citizens so basically Arabs are the ones turning a blind eye to this. They shouldn't facilitate these kind of activities, they are just as bad as the pimps. There's also a strong possibility the men who are buying and abusing these women may be Arabs themselves.

I searched up the rest of Maria Kovalchuk's story and apparently a Ukrainian consul to Dubai helped track her down, updating the woman's mother on everything that happened. The case of the Ugandan girl who died by "suicide" on the other hand was brushed over by Uganda's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, they just accepted the official narrative with no questions. Uganda didn't even bother to help transport her body unlike with Kayla's. Her body is just one of thousands buried in a cemetery far far away from her family, the journalist in the documentary couldn't even find it.

I found this part of the article really interesting:
"Not satisfied with the investigation in Dubai, Ukrainian police have now opened a human trafficking case in relation to Maria’s disappearance and her subsequent abandonment on the side of the road.
The National Police of Ukraine, specifically the Lviv region department where Maria is from, has now officially launched the investigation and more information is expected to follow."


Wow! Even though Ukraine is in the midst of war, they still cared enough to look into this case despite the girl still being alive. It's stuff like this that makes me so disgusted by African leaders. If you remember back when the war in Ukraine broke out, you'd know about how the black African students were basically abandoned by their nation's governments. Their evacuation efforts were less organized and noticeably slower. From one video I saw, Somalia had one of the best responses and helped Somali students escape efficiently due to them being smaller in number. Meanwhile, the many Bantu students were complaining on live news about being pushed from trains by Ukrainians. Russians (?) even went as far as raiding Telegram channels meant for the Africans stuck there and spammed the channel with videos and pictures of black people being brutalized, some of them even gave them wrong directions in hopes of killing them. You can't say the world isn't divided by race when time and time again you see black people get dehumanized due to their race.

Race and religion are what divides people. Why do you think they call the black girls they make eat **** "black monkeys"? Do you believe they call the white girls "white monkeys"? They may get battered here and there but the black ones clearly suffer more humiliation.

I know Pan-Africanism is a failure because of how unprincipled and plotted against Africa was. Certain African countries secretly traded with Apartheid South Africa all while telling Somalis they were in the wrong for wanted to liberate our people from Ethiopia. Before the war, Somalia never once abandoned Pan-Africanism yet there are Bantus who attack us over anti-blackness. Not even being racist towards them, just telling the truth. I can't help but be idealistic and imagine a world where Pan-Africanism worked and the image of black people worldwide wasn't so cheapened.
 
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