Does anyone else not want kids?
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AhmedSmelly
I am an offical nacas. too honest
Having children in this day of age is just a disaster.
They will be either
1) Kaafirs
2) Khaanis
3) Both
I am not going to have a Farax who transitioned to Fartun. They will be misguided in the west. They will be hyper-sexual in the west.
I dont want daughters who have slept with the whole block. If my son do that shit, I can just kick him out. What about the daughter, what are you going to do with her.
They will be either
1) Kaafirs
2) Khaanis
3) Both
I am not going to have a Farax who transitioned to Fartun. They will be misguided in the west. They will be hyper-sexual in the west.
I dont want daughters who have slept with the whole block. If my son do that shit, I can just kick him out. What about the daughter, what are you going to do with her.
I’m fond of kids. They can be adorable and sweet. I get tired of them quickly though. I love my nieces but I can’t stand a lot of buuq. I barely babysit them anymore because of that. I also hate having people dependent on me. I don’t want kids. I never have. I’ve been telling my parents that since I was in elementary school lol. Everyone tells me I’ll change my mind though. My relatives tell me that chidren are a “blessing” despite the fact that they live a lower quality of life and are unhappy because of them. No thanks. I’ll skip that so called blessing.
Omar del Sur
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I think it's haraam. As I understand it, the scholars say it's haraam unless there's a necessity- if, for example, a doctor says there is a medical danger for the woman.
However, what a knowledgeable brother who gives lectures in my areas recommended is not to trust non-Muslim doctors. If the doctor is a pious and practicing Muslim, I might take his word for it but if he's a kaffir doctor I'd be suspicious.
The brother said he knew of a Yemeni woman who was pregnant and the Western doctor tried to get her to not have the baby and said there would be medical problems- then the woman had the baby and there were no medical problems.
There are also other reasons why I'm against it.
Presumably, you will be at work during the day, earning money to provide.
If she's not at home with the baby or with kids- what is she doing while you're at work?
Another thing is.... I think some of the people here are too young to remember 9/11 but I remember.
Of course it was horrible that so many innocent people died and I think it was a very tragic event. I'm not trying to downplay how bad it was. It was also traumatizing for the people in general.
But.... in a way, 9/11.... I'm not sure how to say this in the right.... but in a way it helped George Bush. Bush's approval rating went through the roof, the US was super patriotic....the people were really united and people were really, really behind George Bush.
Having an external enemy unifies people. Ranting about Western imperialism, white people, Jews, "the Illuminati," the right wing. the left wing, witches, Freemasons, Communists, Russians, whatever...... whatever external enemy.... this can and does unite people (if the opposition is shared). People put their differences aside and unify.
I say this because I think it's a good way to unify people. Having a common enemy and sharing an opposition to a common external enemy can bring people closer together.
That's really a different topic but I think it can really be helpful in creating unity- including with a woman. It works and I think it may be useful to keep it in mind.
Anyways, I think having a baby- especially multiple kids- I think it can help in sort of a similar way. Now the two of you have a mission. There's a sense of common purpose- if she's a woman who is into having kids. If not, I think avoid her to begin with.
And so I think starting a family can create a sense of unity, common purpose, a sense of their being a mission. I think this can make for a bond.
If you're with the woman and married but no kid.... so she's at home, bored, with no sense of purpose and nothing occupying her? I don't like this- I think this is dangerous and could open the door to something.
From the halal/haraam perspective I think it's haraam unless there for example is a genuine medical reason. But even besides that, I think there are many reasons why you should get her pregnant. I think that women in some biologically way are also more attached to men they've had kids with.
Also, it creates an investment on her part. Of course I'm against gangs but if you join a gang.... you might have to do something as part of initiation. This creates an investment on your part.
I think there are so many, many reasons why it's better to start a family with her. And I'm not pointing these things out because I want the woman to be mistreated but because I believe in promoting strong families with loyal bonds.
Halimo-2018
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Smart thinking. Having kids is an option not a must. 1or 2 are more than enough in the mean time save up and try to be good muslim. I have 1 now i want 2 more around at 35 then am done. Who wants to raise kids their whole life? I want to be a parent and have a life of my own too.I'm good with kids and have partly raised some nephew and nieces of mine. I just don't want kids, but I could be talked into having 1 or 2 when I'm at least 35
Anyone else in the same boat as me?
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Omar del Sur
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My thinking is
don't have kids in the West
marry a woman who has never been to the West
don't ever take her to the West
raise family outside the West
make sure your kids never learn English
also make sure they have a deep hatred of and aversion to Western culture
make them hate and despise the West
I don't think there's anything remotely unethical about raising your kids to hate the West
protecting your kids is way more important than what Uncle Toms think
Yep, you know what's up. If I ever have kids one day inshallah. I will make sure they grow up in a Muslim country, and put them in an Islamic school, and I will not buy them a TV or mobile phone, laptop. So they don't get influenced by kuffur liberal ideologies.
I am even thinking of marrying a woman from a village, the idea isn't far fetched.
Isn't that a bit too far? Millions of Muslim know the English language and are still Muslims. Learning a language which Allah (swt) has created won't cause you become a gaal.
Isn't that a bit too far? Millions of Muslim know the English language and are still Muslims. Learning a language which Allah (swt) has created won't cause you become a gaal.
Its a pretty good idea you know, you wouldn't want your child to start typing in words they learnt in high school or university like ''Atheist'', ''Charles Darwin'', ''Philosophy'' on Google search, next you will be having a debate with your child about religion and morality
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AhmedSmelly
I am an offical nacas. too honest
Dude I am very happy I was raised in the west. I believe I became a better Muslim because I lived in the west. If I had lived in Somalia, I would have been extremely conservative. Prophet Mohammed s.a.w was an open minded person. The western world has taught me things I could never have learnt in Africa. Mercy, kindness and having good akhlaaq. I have learnt what true Islam through the actions of the tolerant white people. I am happy that I know now, that beating your wife isn't standard, nor is it something prophet Mohammed S.A.W perfomed.
Unfortunately anything can be extreme. They have started indoctrinating children in kindergarten to accept the LBQT community. I didn't have that problem when I was growing up. Drugs have become prevalent in Primary school. Kids are selling in communities. This is Sweden, so I will believe other countries have it much worse.
Halimo-2018
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You sound insecure and controling. My prediction is you wont make a good husband as well as good dad.
Best of luck to who ever you end up with.
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You guys sure take things to the extreme.
Nope, I am trying to protect my future children from becoming kafirs, you gotta take every precaution in this day and age.
I see nothing wrong in what he said. He doesn't want his future kids to end up like kafirs, or even worse becoming gay or transsexual. Bringing your wife to the West is like signing up for getting cucked.
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Halimo-2018
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He thinks learning english is bad. What kind of bs is that he needs help. His too paranoid to be a husband let alone a dad to someone. He thinks his kids are a science project keeping them isolated from the world will make them good muslims if that was the case we wouldnt have so many idiots blowing up innocent people. the prophet and his companions travelled to non muslim
Lands by conducting themselves well nothing wrong with living in nonmuslim
Land nor is learning english bad.This guy is an ass hole he doesn't deserve to have kids with a mind like that.uff!
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AhmedSmelly
I am an offical nacas. too honest
Wait, what wrong in debating your children on religion, atheism and how the world works ??
You guys sure take things to the extreme.
^^^This is a valid question, some religious people think our Deen is indoctrination. Our Deen tells us to ask questions, to learn, to dissect those problems and find answers.
I debate my younger family members, I let them think for themselves. I get asked difficult questions like evolution, and why Muslims don't believe in it.
I teach them that we believe in Evolution, but that we didn't evolve from Monkeys. That we believe in evolution, but we don't believe its random. We dont believe in Darwin theory, because it is not absolute, its just a theory. Everything comes from Allah and he is the one who controls everything. Nothing can evolve without his support.
If you don't let your children think and let them use their brain. Someone else is going to do that job for you, don't come screaming the western world changed your child. Muslim parents are not religious, nor can they answer difficult question associated to religion. Like slavery and why concubines are allowed.
Its better to teach the reasoning behind our religion. The western world is a world that works on logic, if your child hasn't grown up around a line of reasoning. SHE/HE will fail.
There is a reason why The GOLDEN age of Islam we were on the top. ITs because we were very open minded, compared to how we are now, which is extreme conservationism.
@Nomoregames2019 @Omar del Sur
Omar del Sur
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There are lots of people who have been shot and who didn't die. I still wouldn't want to be shot.
If you go to an area hit with Coronavirus, you might not get infected. So would you go to an area with Coronavirus?
If you come home, fall asleep and forget to lock the door it's possible no one will break into your house but I still think it's better to lock the door.
If you think there's no connection between English and one's thinking, maybe English is your only language. English-language media is way worse and the Anglosphere along with French media is at a forefront of degeneracy.
I don't think standing up to Western imperialism is too extreme at all.
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