why was it easy for farmaajo to dismantle GM but not Jland?

Because he has Kheyrlaawe remember he spent like a month in GM passing out millions upon millions of dollars?

Failmaajo would rather pay bots and destroy federal states rather than fighting Al shabaab. Xaarmaajo is a incompetent loser who wasted a lot of time.

Ferrari said:

I think madoobe could take xamar if hawiye didnt interfere and left mr cheese and mr dawaco to their fate.

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HG is coming back as JVA, gadaasha baa la jooga

Ferrari said:

last time, we had a civil war of our own, not this time though.
we'll karbaash HGs too if they dare march in.

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The Suufis just need to disappear, hido iyo dhaqan bay no ahayeen, they should just have stuck to Xuska Cabdalle & Cawareere. But you will see the USC in QoorQoor come out iska sug, taada uun ilaalsho.

You can't compare Kablalaax with waah qawaan like @DR OSMAN keeps on saying.

Ferrari said:

Farmaajo tried everything in his power, including sending planes of xabashi soldiers to kismaayo, and he failed, but he easily dismantled the cambuulo eating suufis and the raxanwayns in baydhabo. why?

If Jland had any other president who isnt madoobe, farmaajo would probably have taken it by now.

Ahmed madoobe has held his own, despite everything mr cheese did. With the UN recognizing madoobe, it's a wrap for axmaarjo. he'll have no choice but to accept this nigga he hates so much.

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Lets go all out and be frank since you started by mentioning us Galmudug first.

The reason Galmudug went N&N is simply because we HG have no-one but our balls we have no Kenyan or Ethiopian army backing us like the Ogadens in Kismaayo with KDF, and also they N&N bought us out with $$$ and also there were many HGs who were eager for any power whether it be N&N or Ethiopia to dismantle the Suufi Militia that was a thorn to HGs unity, and so far N&N has proven to be an HG ally in defeating the Suufi Militia.

Now to Jubaland we all know whether be the Isaaqs in Hargeisa or the MJ in Garowe or Hawiyes in Mogadishu, we all know that the Ogadens are holding tightly the ball-sacks of Kikuyes Kenya, if for a day the Kenya's had left Kismayo we all Somalis would mostly definitely bet our Money on N&N army of united Dhulbahante,Raxanweyne and Hawiyes to expel your Ogadens Kins back to Kenya, Ogadens are relevant in Somalia so long Kenya is there.


In Short Ogadens future lies with the Kenyans, your folks are the only Qabiil in somalia that has an Private foreign army KDF protecting you as an Buffers State, while the other rest of Clan states hold their own balls.


You have these Bantu KDF protecting you in Kismayo







While we Had these Suufis protecting us in our Capital Dhusomareeb;

I think KDF presence and interest in the region both land and sea makes it much more difficult to fully control. Let us have hope that soon we can solve all our differences and never rely on foreign muscle or intelligence to fight one another

Ferrari said:

Farmaajo tried everything in his power, including sending planes of xabashi soldiers to kismaayo, and he failed, but he easily dismantled the cambuulo eating suufis and the raxanwayns in baydhabo. why?

If Jland had any other president who isnt madoobe, farmaajo would probably have taken it by now.

Ahmed madoobe has held his own, despite everything mr cheese did. With the UN recognizing madoobe, it's a wrap for axmaarjo. he'll have no choice but to accept this nigga he hates so much.

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@Lex Luther spews nonsense and claims we are holding on to kenyans blah blah and yet we now HG and galmudug lands are infested with ethiopians, who doy uo think arms and backs galmudug warya lex? heck even Djabouti is there in addtion to the SNA trained by Turkey

Lex will not admit that Ogaden and Jubaland defeated the b00ns with geo politics, remember huraale used to use the ONLF card but Ogadens were froced to get the Kenyans to tell the habashi to piss off, so Ogaden pitted kenyan with ethiopia when it comes to Geo politics, this is what Lex doesnt want to accept,

every somali clan as @Lex Luther knows uses another forein power, he will not admit his own HAG are looked after by several antions troops,

Oagden looked at somalis and learned from history, today's somalia is not about clans, we have had the west refuse the imports of weapons, so the tactic is to use forein proxies to give you weapons,

Ahmed can easily defeat the moryaans, in fact Ogaden does the fighting, the kenyans just support the geo political protections in case the moryaans use amison in xamar or ethiopians all over somalia,

Lex refuses to accept there are lot of Ogaden kenyan soldiers and commanders and he also refuses to accept Ogaden has said i own east African so i will use my card in neighbouring countries too since somalis do the same

so when someone wants to use foreign proxies against Ogaden, Ogaden too can play that card and they can do it better

Ogaden has focused on all 3 nations, before we were focused on Ogadeniya, now all 3 nations work together,

when abiy always farmajo to ride on his nut suck, ONLF wrote a letter to abiy immediately and demanded the peace is part of the deal with Ogaden across teh horn not just Ogadeniya

in addition Lex knows HAAG are not dawlad material, they have always been a moryaan who only know how to rob and loot and rape cad-cad girls in shabaelle and burning grandmothers

Ogaden is a dawlad, no Absame will ever allow being ruled in his own backyard with out a fight

who was the one group that vote against every group in kismayo for almost 20 years? Only Ogaden, this is his land, he is majority and he will not peanuts

as Lex said, his HAG are easily bought off, give the HAG a few bread crumbs and he will bend over backwards kkkkkk

i think they discovered islam and government in 1960, this is why the Sayid even banned hawiye from doing gabay, imagine banning an entire tribe, he had his reasons, to us they discovered civilisation in 1960

Lex uses Ethiopians, galmudug is infested with habashi and djaboutina and turkey and god knows who else, yet he claims N and N subdued him with money,kkkk

lex we will sue kenyan, you use several nations, if you had the strategic card we have , you would do it too and kenyan soldiers dont forget also has OG soldiers, not our faulty our ancestors expanded and conquered and fought everyone including the British as you stuck in a land smaller than Dagaxbuur or Garissa, kkkk

Ogaden is an elephant, when he says i will fight, he persevere, he doesn't give up easily and he cannot be removed once he settles on a goal,

lex's people are wishy washy, can be bought easily by anyone, and God has cursed them for what they did , looting, raping, killing,

they could have ruled somalia but instead did what a who 2 does best, waa semi bantu gypsy

Ogaden is not scared of Ethiopians, we have fought them a 1000 years, so Ahmed madoobe is the only one who ares to tell them bastards i will shoot down your plane, it takes a rag a real man who knows his enemy,

farmajo is funny, walle b0 0ns, b0 0ns convinced hawiye they are hawiye in politics, so they voted for him, just like they helped him in 1969, and today the b00n has cut of the balls of hawiye in their own lands and placed in their mouths, they deserve it for trusting a b0 0ns, they over threw darood rule in xamar and then voted with their own feet with their Mps and welcomed him back, then he placed a langab as his side kick, they must be really pissed offf KKKKK

they thought he would make a HG the PM kkkkkk, yall desevr for trusting a b00n

Lex Luther said:

Lets go all out and be frank since you started by mentioning us Galmudug first.

The reason Galmudug went N&N is simply because we HG have no-one but our balls we have no Kenyan or Ethiopian army backing us like the Ogadens in Kismaayo with KDF, and also they N&N bought us out with $$$ and also there were many HGs who were eager for any power whether it be N&N or Ethiopia to dismantle the Suufi Militia that was a thorn to HGs unity, and so far N&N has proven to be an HG ally in defeating the Suufi Militia.

Now to Jubaland we all know whether be the Isaaqs in Hargeisa or the MJ in Garowe or Hawiyes in Mogadishu, we all know that the Ogadens are holding tightly the ball-sacks of Kikuyes Kenya, if for a day the Kenya's had left Kismayo we all Somalis would mostly definitely bet our Money on N&N army of united Dhulbahante,Raxanweyne and Hawiyes to expel your Ogadens Kins back to Kenya, Ogadens are relevant in Somalia so long Kenya is there.


In Short Ogadens future lies with the Kenyans, your folks are the only Qabiil in somalia that has an Private foreign army KDF protecting you as an Buffers State, while the other rest of Clan states hold their own balls.


You have these Bantu KDF protecting you in Kismayo

While we Had these Suufis protecting us in our Capital Dhusomareeb;

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careful what yall wish for, Ogaden with hassan turki and ahmed maodobe karbahsed HG and marehan and then alshabab whilst yall got weapons from ethiopians using the ONLF card,

heck even the drug money from the drugs yall planted in jilib could not save you lot,

we took you out and marehan and then shishkabab single ahndedly in 2008 then 2010 when ethiopia armed every moryaan,

dont act tough, when we beat hurale he cried wolf and yall ran off back to who 2 land,

i hate somalis who act tought one on one, we karbashed JVA with several hudnred boys form Afmadow alone,

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careful what yall wish for, Ogaden with hassan turki and ahmed maodobe karbahsed HG and marehan and then alshabab whilst yall got weapons from ethiopians using the ONLF card,

heck even the drug money from the drugs yall planted in jilib could not save you lot,

we took you out and marehan and then shishkabab single ahndedly in 2008 then 2010 when ethiopia armed every moryaan,

dont act tough, when we beat hurale he cried wolf and yall ran off back to who 2 land,

i hate somalis who act tought one on one, we karbashed JVA with several hudnred boys form Afmadow alone,

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Didn't HG install you lot too into Kismayo Throne, weren't for Dahir Aweys Turki wouldn't have set foot on Kismayo and Ahmed Madobe would have rotten in the Ethiopian Prison.

Sxb Terri Ogaden waa Gob no doubt waa dad Wadaniyaal, but don't try to bite the hands that feeds you, i.e don't overstep your boundary.

Unlike GM and KG, you lot had Kenya backing you which countered the threat posed by Ethiopia's NN.

Lex Luther said:

Didn't HG install you lot too into Kismayo Throne, weren't for Dahir Aweys Turki wouldn't have set foot on Kismayo and Ahmed Madobe would have rotten in the Ethiopian Prison.

Sxb Terri Ogaden waa Gob no doubt waa dad Wadaniyaal, but don't try to bite the hands that feeds you, i.e don't overstep your boundary.

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cut the crap, kulaha we installed

bro dont make things up, hassan turki was the man who brought to xamar Ogaden lads with his in law ahmed madoobe and told hawiye fight back against Mj and the ethipopia,s yall were su ravaged by war for The first few months we came and woke yall hawiye up and said warya jihad with the bastards and their midget dogs,


kulaha dahir awaye, if he was so powerful he would, not be locked up, anyways never heard of dahir aweys in jubaland, ahmed madoobe and Hassan turki karbashed Hg warlords and their b0 00n clients

dont make things up lex, i respect you, dont go down the root of the likes of the b0 00ns kids who rewrite history to sleep better at night

Teeri-Alpha said:

cut the crap, kulaha we installed

bro dont make things up, hassan turki was the man who brought to xamar Ogaden lads with his in law ahmed madoobe and told hawiye fight back against Mj and the ethipopia,s yall were su ravaged by war for The first few months we came and woke yall hawiye up and said warya jihad with the bastards and their midget dogs,


kulaha dahir awaye, if he was so powerful he would, not be locked up, anyways never heard of dahir aweys in jubaland, ahmed madoobe and Hassan turki karbashed Hg warlords and their b0 00n clients

dont make things up lex, i respect you, dont go down the root of the likes of the b0 00ns kids who rewrite history to sleep better at night

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Our respect for Beesha Ogaden will be put into effect, no longer shall I put sensitive posts against our Absame brothers.

Huge apology to Of Family, and also @Ferrari lay off Galmudug, attacking Galmudug akins to attack on Sacad and attack on Sacad means attack on you know who?

kkk, what jubbaland do you control? do you mean the city of kismaayo?

farmaajo controls already 50% of jubbaland and we will be going to buaale soon. but keep on believing in your nonsense.

Cause Hawiye states heavily depend on Mogadishu. It's their lifeline. Without an ally in Mogadishu they're powerless bunch with no ammunitions to fight on. Remember intra PL&GL battles in 2015 and 2016 when Galmudug militas used to receive planes full ammunition and Military equipments from Mogadishu each week?!. Frequent attacks and Daily verbal threats have magically stopped since then.

Farmaajo can easily outmanoeuvre these central States if SNA is fully behind the operation. No one will provide them weapons and thus not possible for them to fight.

Sheikh Shaakir spews vitriolic anti government speeches full of threats on daily basis but he's bluffing, deep down he knows he can fight NO ONE without a reliable partner supplying munitions.

Karim said:

Cause Hawiye states heavily depend on Mogadishu. It's their lifeline. Without an ally in Mogadishu they're powerless bunch with no ammunitions to fight on. Remember intra PL&GL battles in 2015 and 2016 when Galmudug militas used to receive planes full ammunition and Military equipments from Mogadishu each week?!. Frequent attacks and Daily verbal threats have magically stopped since then.

Farmaajo can easily outmanoeuvre these central States if SNA is fully behind the operation. No one will provide them weapons and thus not possible for them to fight.

Sheikh Shaakir spews vitriolic anti government speeches full of threats on daily basis but he's bluffing, deep down he knows he can fight NO ONE without a reliable partner supplying munitions.

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Bal ina arga hadalkan oo nacasnimada

So who are these Mogadishu you say Hawiye depends on, are they the Daroods?


Mogadishu = Hawiye, dont let an harmless guest from Gedo fool you otherwise, everything Farmaajo did or does benefits Hawiye, Centralism is an Hawiyes Political Ideology and Farmaajo conforms to that.




Anyway, This Lander below has the Perfect answer for @Ferrari

https://www.somnet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=4970598#p4970598