The Philosophy of Stoicism.

VixR

Veritas
So when a white guy writes a book about it, it's celebrated and encouraged. When a black man is stoic, it's called emotional unavailability and toxic masculinity :bell:
Those are not stoicism.

If I had to sum it up, a prayer that I always see posted in Rehab clinical sites or Substance Abuse groups like AA, comes to mind:
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VixR

Veritas
Marcus was fighting multiple wars while his country was going through a deadly plague all while having a terrible wife who treated him harshly, Another great stoic is Epictetus who was a slave and endured all types of hardships, I'd say that's more stressful than thinking about what job I'm gonna have.
Don’t be glib. It’s about more than what kind of job you’re going to have. There are way different stressors today. Not only that, it’s constant and inescapable, due to technology.

In the ancient world, you didn’t even have to worry about your station. It was decided for you. Marcus was groomed into being an emperor by his forbear (who was not his father). He didn’t have fight for it, or achieve his fortune like the rat race we have today.

That’s good in one way, bc it was his merit and nature that made him a candidate in the eyes of his predecessor, and not the popularity contest we have today (or succession, which is ironically the case of how his only living child who turned out to be a living nightmare, Commodus, came to power).
 

Radical

Certified CNC expert.
Don’t be glib. It’s about more than what kind of job you’re going to have. There are way different stressors today. Not only that, it’s constant and inescapable, due to technology.

In the ancient world, you didn’t even have to worry about your station. It was decided for you. Marcus was groomed into being an emperor by his forbear (who was not his father). He didn’t have fight for it, or achieve his fortune like the rat race we have today.

That’s good in one way, bc it was his merit and nature that made him a candidate in the eyes of his predecessor, and not the popularity contest we have today (or succession, which is ironically the case of how his only living child who turned out to be a living nightmare, Commodus, came to power).
Lol 'glib' I like that word.

The types of stress do shift with the social and technological advances but if you break it down to its fundamental core... stress is the uneasy feeling of being uncertain or fearful about one's future or situation, stoicism is good at tackling these roots and thus applicable no matter the era

You can still be wealthy and depressed as shit. and although being groomed for leadership might have prepared him for the dreadful encounters to come it certainly didn't help In getting rid of the anxious feeling of having a whole nation on your back, and at such a young age many would've mentally collapsed, he's a true prodigy it's sad to see his son didn't follow along.
 

General Asad

And What Is Not There Is Always More Than There.
I haven't gotten the book yet, but it seems to have good reviews and as others have said, seems to come natural to us.
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Don’t be glib. It’s about more than what kind of job you’re going to have. There are way different stressors today. Not only that, it’s constant and inescapable, due to technology.

In the ancient world, you didn’t even have to worry about your station. It was decided for you. Marcus was groomed into being an emperor by his forbear (who was not his father). He didn’t have fight for it, or achieve his fortune like the rat race we have today.

That’s good in one way, bc it was his merit and nature that made him a candidate in the eyes of his predecessor, and not the popularity contest we have today (or succession, which is ironically the case of how his only living child who turned out to be a living nightmare, Commodus, came to power).
No Soul is burdened with a load greater then it can bear.

This is why comparisons are flawed because Marcus grew up in a society that is far more tougher then the cushioned lifestyles we are accustomed to.

The food they ate was far purer and more nutritious and so was the air they breathed, we have none of this today.

They had strong robust communities and tribes that leaned on each other and a level of cooperation and togetherness we have lost in our individualistic society today were everyone is alone.

They fast majority of them were self-sufficient with financial and agricultural independence per tribe, while all of us are slaves to the Satanist Talmudist Babylonian banksters we can't escape from.

I can go on and on in comparison but I agree with you, we have it a lot worse today.

The key difference is that back then it was much more difficult to stand out because quality was in abundance as opposed to today were it's the opposite and easier to stand out.

The cushioned society of today is designed to make you weak in every facet of life, on top of this, we deal with perpetual chemical, psychological, cultural and emotional warfare.

You yourself have succumbed to the cultural/ideological warfare to the point you embraced the Satanist religion of atheism to your own spiritual and psychological determent.

You swallowed the poison of second/third wave feminism designed to destroy families, communities and society as a whole, a foreign ideology not even conducive to your own biological predisposition.

Now this is your shameless state as an 'empowered educated female" supporting a litany of degenerate and ideologically destructive positions.

In the old days you would have never embarked on this path of self-destruction and lunacy, you would have worked for the interest of your tribe, embraced it's culture and religion and fought tooth and nail to preserve all.

In old age, you would be on the front-line fighting tooth and nail against dom, brothels and prostitution and the rest of the degeneracies that you now ignorantly support.

Because you would realise it will tear your community, society and tribe apart and when that happens the biggest losers are the old ladies in that tribe whom no one wants.

All that supposed 'education' and 'empowerment' has had ZERO benefit for you! It was supposed to make you better but all it has done is make you worse, no introspection, no deep-thinking, no critical self-analysis.

I recall story that happened in Somalia were the mother supplicated day and night to her Lord for her son to be able to speak, and when the supplication was answered and her son spoke for the first time, he began to curse her and she started to have regrets and wished he no longer spoke.

That's your Juxtapose Vixr.
 
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VixR

Veritas
No Soul is burdened with a load greater then it can bear.

This is why comparisons are flawed because Marcus grew up in a society that is far more tougher then the cushioned lifestyles we are accustomed to.

The food they ate was far purer and more nutritious and so was the air they breathed, we have none of this today.

They had strong robust communities and tribes that leaned on each other and a level of cooperation and togetherness we have lost in our individualistic society today were everyone is alone.

They fast majority of them were self-sufficient with financial and agricultural independence per tribe, while all of us are slaves to the Satanist Talmudist Babylonian banksters we can't escape from.

I can go on and on in comparison but I agree with you, we have it a lot worse today.

The key difference is that back then it was much more difficult to stand out because quality was in abundance as opposed to today were it's the opposite and easier to stand out.

The cushioned society of today is designed to make you weak in every facet of life, on top of this, we deal with perpetual chemical, psychological, cultural and emotional warfare.

You yourself have succumbed to the cultural/ideological warfare to the point you embraced the Satanist religion of atheism to your own spiritual and psychological determent.

You swallowed the poison of second/third wave feminism designed to destroy families, communities and society as a whole, a foreign ideology not even conducive to your own biological predisposition.

Now this is your shameless state as an 'empowered educated female" supporting a litany of degenerate and ideologically destructive positions.

In the old days you would have never embarked on this path of self-destruction and lunacy, you would have worked for the interest of your tribe, embraced it's culture and religion and fought tooth and nail to preserve all.

In old age, you would be on the front-line fighting tooth and nail against dom, brothels and prostitution and the rest of the degeneracies that you now ignorantly support, because you would realise they can tear communities, societies and tribes apart, and the biggest loser if that happens is you.

All that supposed 'education' and 'empowerment' has had ZERO benefit for you! It was supposed to make you better but all it has done is make you worse, no introspection, no deep-thinking, no critical self-analysis.

I recall story that happened in Somalia were the mother supplicated day and night to her Lord for her son to be able to speak, and when the supplication was answered and her son spoke for the first time, he began to curse her and she started to have regrets and wished he no longer spoke.

That's your Juxtapose Vixr.
I thank my lucky stars I wasn’t born in this ancient world (I actually think I was born too early) you errantly talk up due to your unhappiness on how things are better for women, not that they’re better for Somali women.

Everything and every freedom I have as a woman, I do not owe to you. I owe it to the West, and I’m acutely aware of that, so your whole narrative is rendered irrelevant in my eyes. All that you deem beneath you to give and beneath me to have is nothing you have to offer me.
 
I thank my lucky stars I wasn’t born in this ancient world (I actually think I was born too early) you errantly talk up due to your unhappiness on how things are better for women, not that they’re better for Somali women. Everything and every freedom I have as a woman, I do not owe to you. I owe it to the West, and I’m acutely aware of that, so your whole narrative is rendered useless.
To the God conscious religious male that is pro family your correct, but they only make up a tiny minority of males.

To the masses of male's that don't, there is absolutely no better time to be alive then today with the sexual 'liberation' of females, this ensures unlimited sex and hookups for the degenerate male's that rise to the top 40%

The biggest losers in this race to the bottom after the children are the female's themselves, then once society collapses as a result of all these crazed wild Fatherless bastards and thugs they gave birth too, they will suffer an even greater torment.

When you say you owe it to the west, this portrays your ignorance, this culture was imposed on the west by the Satanist, Talmudist crypto Jews who are preparing the world for the arrival of there Messianic figure.
 
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VixR

Veritas
To the God conscious religious male that is pro family your correct, but they only make up a tiny minority of males.

To the masses of male's that don't, there is absolutely no better time to be alive, sexual 'liberation' of female's ensures virtually unlimited sex and hookups with no sexual hangups from them, but in the end the biggest losers after children are the female's themselves, which you unknowingly and foolishly support.

I am very gratefully that in my Jaahili days your types were not around, because your type to me is gold because your not the typical clueless brainless bimbo you have to dumb down for that put me off because beyond just sex there is nothing else there.

When you say you owe it to the west, this portrays your ignorance, this culture was imposed on the west by the Satanist, Talmudist crypto Jews who are preparing the world for the arrival of there Messianic figure.
In that case, l’chaim to the blessed Jews, my saviors, who’re apparently responsible for everything! Lol! Makes no difference. It’s clear as day isn’t with you my interests and best outcomes lie.
 

Exodus

Alienist
Stoicism isn't all that, you want a simple takeaway from Stoicism? Here's mine: you can do everything right, and things can still go to shit. It's not too far from nihilism in truth.
 

blade99

FLOATING IN SPACE
Stoicism isn't all that, you want a simple takeaway from Stoicism? Here's mine: you can do everything right, and things can still go to shit. It's not too far from nihilism in truth.
I think it's just an attitude of f*ck it

Or

I am

unbothered by many things in life

MY PHILOSOPHY ON LIFE AND DEATH IS I AM UNBOTHERED I ACCEPT ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING ITS FROM GOD THE GOOD THE BAD AND UGLY
 

VixR

Veritas
i just started reading Stillness Is the Key by Ryan Holiday after hearing him on a podcast. very informative so far. :nvjpqts:
You listen to Peter Attia’s podcast? I looked at my feed today and there was this exact guest/book sitting in there. Great podcast/guy.

Edit: It can’t be the same one, bc I just realized the release date is for today and your comment is older. I guess I’ll hear about this same guy.
 

Phiirso

Getting draids inshallah
Stoicism in combination with self understandment is the new wave of being for those that want both internal and external success. Where Stoicism teaches you the art of disciplining yourself, especially in a world where our rampant need to fill the bottomless pit that is our desires, understandment of the self will teach you why you have those desires in the first place.
 

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