Abdillahi Yusuf Legacy. A Total Legend

Do Reer Muqdisho Have a stake in Puntland?
Xamar belongs to her people first. Until someone from Hawiyah can become a mayor in Bosaaso and Garowe and pay taxes , then Reer Muqdisho have a right to claim their for themselves.

What happened in Civil War was 2 way street. Siad Barre facilitated peoples from certain clans to build homes with state funds. There is nothing to return
Xamar is the capital though so that argument of "Xamar belongs to Hawiye" first is flawed. Puntland and others are federal states not capitals, there's a difference. If Xamar serves as the national capital then xamar is the city of all Somali nationals otherwise what's the point? Also these thoughts are changing at a faster rate. Farmaajo a Marexaan dude rules Muqdisho and many Daroods live in Muqdisho today.

Also, this "Siyad Barre facilitated peoples from certain clans to build homes with state funds" claim is simply overexaggerating and deflection to support looters and burglars. Once Somalia gets stability, all those illegal squatters and looters will get rounded up and kicked out. If they don't then Somalia will forever be a failed state and we'll be stuck in this status quo. Seriously dude, defending criminals, looters and war criminals? Do you have principles?
 

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@Samaalic Era Sayid bare had tanks
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usc had karabin
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Boowe isn't the size of the dog is the fight in the dog
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Céleste

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The "unukah leh" mentality will never stop until all of somalia is for every clan to live in. Do you think that while other clans cannot enter your lands, you can come on here claiming xamar for all? So long as I cannot go to Garoowe, boosaaso, Hargeysa or any other city of somalia without being looked down upon, xamar will be only for Hawiyes and other minority tribes.

You @Ayubi are most certainly not the only daarood who has argued about this. I have heard countless arguments from the likes of you saying "Mogadishu is the capital, we should share it" whilst being qabiilist and claiming that other clans should not be permitted to live in their lands. Mogadishu might be the capital but it is an abgaal city within ABGAAL territory. Further more @towerheist created a thread about many hg living in Mogadishu. Go look it up. How is it that mjs here claim jubbaland based on Daaroodnimo but we HG cannot claim xamar based on Hawiyenimo? Lol
 

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The "unukah leh" mentality will never stop until all of somalia is for every clan to live in. Do you think that while other clans cannot enter your lands, you can come on here claiming xamar for all? So long as I cannot go to Garoowe, boosaaso, Hargeysa or any other city of somalia without being looked down upon, xamar will be only for Hawiyes and other minority tribes.

You @Ayubi are most certainly not the only daarood who has argued about this. I have heard countless arguments from the likes of you saying "Mogadishu is the capital, we should share" it whilst being qabiilist and claiming that other clans should not be permitted to live in their lands. Mogadishu might be the capital but it is an abgaal city within ABGAAL territory. Further more @towerheist created a thread about many hg living in Mogadishu. Go look it up. How is it that mjs here claim jubbaland based on Daaroodnimo but we HG cannot claim xamar based on Hawiyenimo? Lol
Xawadle have more claim to Xamar than MJs or any other Darod.

Abgaals are the largest in Xamar followed by HG and then Murusade
 

Libaax-Joore

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The "unukah leh" mentality will never stop until all of somalia is for every clan to live in. Do you think that while other clans cannot enter your lands, you can come on here claiming xamar for all? So long as I cannot go to Garoowe, boosaaso, Hargeysa or any other city of somalia without being looked down upon, xamar will be only for Hawiyes and other minority tribes.

You @Ayubi are most certainly not the only daarood who has argued about this. I have heard countless arguments from the likes of you saying "Mogadishu is the capital, we should share it" whilst being qabiilist and claiming that other clans should not be permitted to live in their lands. Mogadishu might be the capital but it is an abgaal city within ABGAAL territory. Further more @towerheist created a thread about many hg living in Mogadishu. Go look it up. How is it that mjs here claim jubbaland based on Daaroodnimo but we HG cannot claim xamar based on Hawiyenimo? Lol
Move the capital of Somalia to xaafun so we can say anago beesha cusman maxamud ah.... . Xaaafun unaka leh
 
The "unukah leh" mentality will never stop until all of somalia is for every clan to live in. Do you think that while other clans cannot enter your lands, you can come on here claiming xamar for all? So long as I cannot go to Garoowe, boosaaso, Hargeysa or any other city of somalia without being looked down upon, xamar will be only for Hawiyes and other minority tribes.

You @Ayubi are most certainly not the only daarood who has argued about this. I have heard countless arguments from the likes of you saying "Mogadishu is the capital, we should share it" whilst being qabiilist and claiming that other clans should not be permitted to live in their lands. Mogadishu might be the capital but it is an abgaal city within ABGAAL territory. Further more @towerheist created a thread about many hg living in Mogadishu. Go look it up. How is it that mjs here claim jubbaland based on Daaroodnimo but we HG cannot claim xamar based on Hawiyenimo? Lol

The difference is xamar is the capital city. No one cares about hobyo or beledweyne or cadaado.

But you cant have your cake and eat it too. Xamar cannot get investments from the government and international countries because of its capital status and at the same time belong to a clan.

If xamar belongs to clan then so be it, but it cannot be the capital city.
 

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Moving the capital city will not bring any change. If you move it to garoowe, "puntites" will claim it as their own. Same for any major city in somalia. It's stupid to think that somehow Somalis will stop being qabiilist.:ftw9nwa::ftw9nwa::ftw9nwa:
 
Moving the capital city will not bring any change. If you move it to garoowe, "puntites" will claim it as their own. Same for any major city in somalia. It's stupid to think that somehow Somalis will stop being qabiilist.:ftw9nwa::ftw9nwa::ftw9nwa:

So what let them claim why should you benefit from the capital status of xamar alone?

It's only fair for the government to build another city like it did xamar. I would like it to be moved to garbaharay. Would welcome the billions of dollar of investment.
 

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Free AhmedSmelly Bliis iyo Bliis
So what let them claim why should you benefit from the capital status of xamar alone?

It's only fair for the government to build another city like it did xamar. I would like it to be moved to garbaharay. Would welcome the billions of dollar of investment.

I'm saying as long as you dont want me in your city, you are not welcome into xamar. Every city for every single somali. If you dont like that, then stay in your beloved cities and never move away from them.

Doesnt every state in somalia have a "capital" already? Idgaf if the capital was moved. Know that you're asking for the impossible. Mogadishu is the most developed city. The capital being moved is highly unlikely.
 
I'm saying as long as you dont want me in your city, you are not welcome into xamar. Every city for every single somali. If you dont like that, then stay in your beloved cities and never move away from them.

Doesnt every state in somalia have a "capital" already? Idgaf if the capital was moved. Know that you're asking for the impossible. Mogadishu is the most developed city. The capital being moved is highly unlikely.

What you fail to understand is that you cannot compare xamar to beledweyne or garowe.

Also remember that the government is build on 4.5 and that the dastuur is not finished. Capital cities where moved before in a lot of countries.

I really don't care about xamar and if I return to somalia it would not be the place I would settle.

But if you think xamar is hawiye and xamar is also the capital city then you really don't understand what's happening on the ground.

A few years ago abgaal flirted with the idea of making baanadir a federal state similar to puntland or jubbaland.

It was sharif and hassan sheikh which poured cold water on that. Because they know the moment that happens xamar will no longer be the capital.

I have already said keep xamar and make it a federal state but we will move the capital city.
 

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Free AhmedSmelly Bliis iyo Bliis
What you fail to understand is that you cannot compare xamar to beledweyne or garowe.

Also remember that the government is build on 4.5 and that the dastuur is not finished. Capital cities where moved before in a lot of countries.

I really don't care about xamar and if I return to somalia it would not be the place I would settle.

But if you think xamar is hawiye and xamar is also the capital city then you really don't understand what's happening on the ground.

A few years ago abgaal flirted with the idea of making baanadir a federal state similar to puntland or jubbaland.

It was sharif and hassan sheikh which poured cold water on that. Because they know the moment that happens xamar will no longer be the capital.

I have already said keep xamar and make it a federal state but we will move the capital city.

I see the part where i said that the capital being moved would result in the same shit went right above your head. Tell me, when you "move" the capital is every somali welcome into the city? Kkk I can already sense a no.

Besides I believe that xamar is for everyone. I said that to point out their hypocrisy.

Another thing that bothers me a lot is how you keep on saying the capital will be moved. Do you really believe that another significantly less developed city will be recognized by the international community? You're living a fairy tail sxb. Also what is the cost of moving the capital? Building another villa somalia should be quite costly, no?
 

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Free AhmedSmelly Bliis iyo Bliis
Dont bother quoting or mentioning me. I see that I'm arguing with people blinded by qabyaalad.:liberaltears:I'm out, cya.
 
Xamar being the capital city has benefited abgaal. To the point that 90 percent of civil servants are them. International businesses are settling there and hiring locals. The government and international community is building roads and hospitals.

Instead of being thankful and grateful you dare and say unuka leh. If the capital city belongs to a clan and somalia is build on 4.5 then when is it my turn for this capital city status benefit. Why are my youth not employed as civil servants or my cities don't have the turkish building hospitals and schools.

Or do you think all these investments are there because xamar is hawiye? Do you think Turkey invested 500 million dollars because xamar is hawiye?

All these benefits you get under the name of all somalis. I vote my piece of the pie to be transferred to my cities. I want the ministry of health to be transferred there and civil servants hired there I also vote that 20 percent of all embassies to be moved to my city.

If one road is build in xamar then I want 1 road to be build in my city also. If a toilet is build in xamar by the government I also am expecting a toilet to be build in my city.

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The "unukah leh" mentality will never stop until all of somalia is for every clan to live in. Do you think that while other clans cannot enter your lands, you can come on here claiming xamar for all? So long as I cannot go to Garoowe, boosaaso, Hargeysa or any other city of somalia without being looked down upon, xamar will be only for Hawiyes and other minority tribes.

You @Ayubi are most certainly not the only daarood who has argued about this. I have heard countless arguments from the likes of you saying "Mogadishu is the capital, we should share it" whilst being qabiilist and claiming that other clans should not be permitted to live in their lands. Mogadishu might be the capital but it is an abgaal city within ABGAAL territory. Further more @towerheist created a thread about many hg living in Mogadishu. Go look it up. How is it that mjs here claim jubbaland based on Daaroodnimo but we HG cannot claim xamar based on Hawiyenimo? Lol

I agree with you all clans should be able to enter any region, but at the same time Xamar in order to be capitol cannot be in the argument for ownership. If you are saying another city vs say Garowe then there's an argument as none of those are the capitol.
 

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