The Positive Side Of Mental Illness

People considered mentally ill might be the most sane people of all. Because after all it is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.



So you should actually receive double the punishment and judgement.

VantaBlack said:

People considered mentally ill might be the most sane people of all. Because after all it is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.



So you should actually receive double the punishment and judgement.

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Vanta

I consider myself mentally ill. I run away from people. I speak frankly to people when i sense a Bull sh!t in the air, i read alot, i am an expert on the human condition and humanity behavioral study. I am on alert all the time. I accept people imperfections and short comings. I am kind. I am mean. I am ridiculous. All these are facets of my person, now i improve it by Diinta Islamka which is a powerful antidote to lifes illness and struggles

Basra said:

Vanta

I consider myself mentally ill. I run away from people. I speak frankly to people when i sense a Bull sh!t in the air, i read alot, i am an expert on the human condition and humanity behavioral study. I am on alert all the time. I accept people imperfections and short comings. I am kind. I am mean. I am ridiculous. All these are facets of my person, now i improve it by Diinta Islamka which is a powerful antidote to lifes illness and struggles

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You might be more in tune with your own mind and emotions than most people are.

I find that the majority of people just follow the programming of their surroundings or namely their environment being family and community.

It is hard to find an independent thinker who delves deep into their own mind and the human and earthly condition. It might be a lonely path, but it if you go deep enough you will find yourself accompanied by an everlasting love. Or what we call the supreme one the originator of all.

We call him Allah in our culture.

VantaBlack said:

You might be more in tune with your own mind and emotions than most people are.

I find that the majority of people just follow the programming of their surroundings or namely their environment being family and community.

It is hard to find an independent thinker who delves deep into their own mind and the human and earthly condition. It might be a lonely path, but it if you go deep enough you will find yourself accompanied by an everlasting love. Or what we call the supreme one the originator of all.

We call him Allah in our culture.

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Excellent Vanta!

There is a famous French philosopher who said "Hell is other people" is based on a play, where three people are confined in a small place where they have nothing left but to judge each other.

So basically, we see ourselves in the eyes of how others see us. Lonely path is good because u will live in your own judgement of yourself without the interfering of others who might have a motive to judge u, for example judging themselves, and projecting it to you, and you unfortunately are only too ready to receive it and internalize it.

At the core of mental illness is a sense of pre occupation with/of oneself while ignoring to remove yourself from yourself. Hence Religion comes in. God has already told you i created you to worship him. Perhaps you are a fallen angel for not obeying.


Which goes back to @DR OSMAN original point that he is "fallen"


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Every time I read your Threads, I see myself in you. The difference between us is that, you are trying to find excuses for your mental deficiency. While I on the other hand, finds this as a pleasent journey.
Every singel one us have obstacles infront us, something we have to overcome. While people with chronic disabilites have to accept their never ending hardship. The only way for you to accept that option, is to believe in Allah. Stop Hyper-focusing on this world. Start incorporating the next life in this life. Stop believing that you are crazy, an atheiest, a good for nothing somali.


When you cant run and have to walk everywhere, When you talk and people believe you are crazy, because of your superior intellect. Crazy people are sometimes incoherent, but we arnt
one-dimensional thinkers. Not making sense, doesnt mean we are dumb.

I can be angry and make myself happy with euphoric mindset in a second. No one else can do that. I can control my emotions on a molecule level.

Basra said:

Excellent Vanta!

There is a famous French philosopher who said "Hell is other people" is based on a play, where three people are confined in a small place where they have nothing left but to judge each other.

So basically, we see ourselves in the eyes of how others see us. Lonely path is good because u will live in your own judgement of yourself without the interfering of others who might have a motive to judge u, for example judging themselves, and projecting it to you, and you unfortunately are only too ready to receive it and internalize it.

At the core of mental illness is a sense of pre occupation with/of oneself while ignoring to remove yourself from yourself. Hence Religion comes in. God has already told you i created you to worship him. Perhaps you are a fallen angel for not obeying.


Which goes back to @DR OSMAN original point that he is "fallen"


Start praying child

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Very profound Basra.

Also people mistake prayer and worship to only consist of regimental arbitrary movement inside a masjid.

Prayer is actually internal communion with the supreme. The heart has to contemplate Allah internally through meditation or what is called in the Quran Tafakur.

Unfortunately puritanical maniacs have hijacked Islam and misinterpreted everything literally in the modern age. They have only left behind fear, death and ignorance in their wake.

VantaBlack said:

People considered mentally ill might be the most sane people of all. Because after all it is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.



So you should actually receive double the punishment and judgement.

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I know you are joking, but I believe this is 100% true. Its easy for me to pray and fast. Like religion is as easy as walking. While other muslims always complain, always trying to find their identity. I already know my place in this life. Nothing can mentally scathe me. (Maybe rape, I heard that can be challenging to overcome)

VantaBlack said:

Very profound Basra.

Also people mistake prayer and worship to only consist of regimental arbitrary movement inside a masjid.

Prayer is actually internal communion with the supreme. The heart has to contemplate Allah internally through meditation or what is called in the Quran Tafakur.

Unfortunately puritanical maniacs have hijacked Islam and misinterpreted everything literally in the modern age. They have only left behind fear, death and ignorance in their wake.

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Vanta

I have a friend who we fight on one issues every time. LOl She says gaalos-- which she means the White Christians will go to Hell. I said, no- the Christians and the Jews are people of the book. They believe in God. They can't go in hell. In quran Muslim women can marry people of the book but not pagans. She hangs the phone on me. Apparently she says i am attacking the fundamental of her belief. That from childhood she has been told ALL NON Muslims will go to hell. Only Muslims will go to heaven.

And i say-- no-- the righteous Muslims, the Righteous Christians will go to heaven.

Both Jews & Christians are people of the book, called The Nassars & the Yuhud respectively in the Quran.


looooooooool I mean, of course being a Muslim is better than the other two. No question. Because we have the benefit of the final book, Quran and the best of mankind Muhammad pbuh.


But if u r indoctrinated to feel u r the chosen one, like the Jews were in the beginning, u tend feel entitled, big headed, and lose the point entirely!

Basra said:

Vanta

I have a friend who we fight on one issues every time. LOl She says gaalos-- which she means the White Christians will go to Hell. I said, no- the Christians and the Jews are people of the book. They believe in God. They can't go in hell. In quran Muslim women can marry people of the book but not pagans. She hangs the phone on me. Apparently she says i am attacking the fundamental of her belief. That from childhood she has been told ALL NON Muslims will go to hell. Only Muslims will go to heaven.

And i say-- no-- the righteous Muslims, the Righteous Christians will go to heaven.

Both Jews & Christians are people of the book, called The Nassars & the Yuhud respectively in the Quran.


looooooooool I mean, of course being a Muslim is better than the other two. No question. Because we have the benefit of the final book, Quran and the best of mankind Muhammad pbuh.


But if u r indoctrinated to feel u r the chosen one, like the Jews were in the beginning, u tend feel entitled, big headed, and lose the point entirely!

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Basra you are closer to the right way of thinking than your friend. You were also astute enough to realise that thinking you are the only saved people puts you in the same ranks as "the jews" who thought themselves above the rest of mankind.

Your friend unfortunately does not realise this, but it's not hard to understand why. The current method of teaching Islam is based on fear tactics and the ignorance of the masses. They rely on the sheikhs just like how it is mentioned in the Quran how the old Christians and Isrealites began giving their religion to the priests.

Puritanical wahabi Salafis are lost in their literalist thought patterns. But it is hard to help people who are so profoundly dumbed down with fear indoctrination.

I can go deeper into my understanding of the deen. But the deen is not something easily explained and understood by mankind due to the veil of the human ego. So I will not, but am very pleased to converse with you on your way of understanding.

Céleste said:

I feel you on that punishment. I feel like Allah is punishing me too. Everyday is different. One day I'll wake up happy thinking that I can achieve everything in the world and after an hour or so I would get depressed again. It's an endless cycle that I can't seem to break.
Yours seems worse, I pray that you become healthy again. I would be a hypocrite If I started quoting ayahs and hadiths because I struggle to pray and keep my connection to Allah.

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Why view it as a punishment and not as a test? The more you skew your perceptions towards negativity the more worse it becomes.

416 said:

Why view it as a punishment and not as a test? The more you skew your perceptions towards negativity the more worse it becomes.

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I get what you mean but at this point I'm a lost cause. I cant think positively lol.

Céleste said:

I get what you mean but at this point I'm a lost cause. I cant think positively lol.

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What helps me is knowing that some people out there got it worse and still fighting and thugging it out. For example, why complain about a headache when there’s innocent kids out there with incurable diseases. So why should I complain? Wallahi I just move on and just say alxamdullilah

I’m sorry i insulted you in a recent thread. I knew you were not mentally sound so it’s even more detestable i insulted you. I hope you can accept my apology