Quran states the Earth is flat???

DR OSMAN said:

It seems like you are 'desperate' for god to exist and be true and god isn't desperate to prove himself to anyone, if he exists great, if he doesn't we all go into deep sleep, why worry or search about such things that is beyond our control, when we can focus on what is within our grasps, the world we live in using the scientific method of inquiry.

I don't want to see u become like @Al Kafi @Omar del Sur @Cilmi-doon who spend a life-time chasing something that doesn't want to be found nor can be found ever when they could've spent their time learning the sciences and creating products, medications, technologies, and progress for they're nation.

Religion wants to distract millions of muslims from succeeding in the world and keep you locked into a topic that has no 'proof' in the end except 'belief or disbelief' yet u focus way to much time on such dead end topics.

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Diaspora ambassador said:

Walaal that statement is false, if you can believe that the entire universe came into existence by itself is beyond ridiculous. The scientific details that keep the universe healthy are way to fine tuned to be an individual organism.

What do you think the prophet's where for.

To pass gods message to the people. Where you think the miracles where for. To convince the people.

There are way more reasons to believe in god than not to just saying.

If you don't want to believe fine, however don't try to convince others that the almighty doesn't exist. It is just wrong to describe the entity that gave you life and part of itself as your soul in this manner.

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DR OSMAN said:

The things that convince you as 'evidence' about god has been debunked hundreds of places and therefore it's not 'proof' it's your 'belief' now, most of the so called science in the quran which isn't science because science is about presenting an idea, test and a final result that goes thru physical and observable tests for all to see.

I don't see the chemical equation for nuclear bomb in the quran, but once something is discovered in science, u automatically and desperately look for a 'sign' in the quran about allah mentioning nuclear possibilities and u will say 'see' allah taught us this 1400 years ago no he didn't, if he did, why aren't u leading the science and discovering all this so called science in the quran?

If you want to see the mathamatical statistics of the muslim world scientific discovery in the last 100 years and u will cry and wonder what sort of quran u have if your failing to produce anything significant in the world? that is proof to me your actually a liar and your book is false or at least your interpretation of islam is false.

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DR OSMAN said:

@Diaspora ambassador that is why I say your 'emotional' bro, you want Islam to be true, it's deep in your heart but that is emotions, it's not rational thought. I want Somalia to be leading scientific nation, that is my emotions, but deep down this isn't realistic until lots of social, religious, cultural reforms take place like all societies had to under-go.

How is it you have the book of the creator, yet you fail to create anything in the world? that isn't logical to say you know the creator but you can't figure our chemical equations and win nobel peace prize? let's be real brother, allahu alam if islam is real, but the evidence suggest it's either false or the islam your practising is backwards, wax kale uma dhaxayo. The reason your somali culture and all islamic societies are back-ward in creating scientific products is because of this religion that is interfering in they're brain with emotional outbursts of heaven and hell, fear of punishment, and all that sheeko carureed

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Diaspora ambassador said:

First of all, we are mere humans we cannot create life. Besides having children.

The book of the creator doesn't describe how to create. Since you didn't knew this, i think you didn't even read the book.

Bro science and the lord are one. Just look up the things he created. How everything is made to perfection. The most complex object in the known universe is our brain. With 400 billion electrolytes, convincing yourself that it is evolution is beyond stupid it is plain being a mad men.

And the reason why the islamic nations are in this status. Has to do with the world order, the west rules the world and they hate our guts. And even the position of the islamic nations in our era has been prophesied.

To round up your arguments, they have been debunked countless times. It is quite alarming that people still fall in that trap.

You are not a dumb individual, you just need to learn how to look from different perspectives.

And if religion is false, you are saying in other words that the majority of the humans are being duped. Ridiculous, that is what it is.

Ps don't ever come with the line that i am emotionally attached to any debate or topic
I do love my lord however i know how to separate my feelings from my conclusions.

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DR OSMAN said:

This isn't an opinion but a FACT based on the nobel peace prize statistics of religion.

I have to wait 500 million muslims to be born before they produce one nobel peace prize invention for the world in the sciences. Yet for the same human that is jewish, I only have to wait 50,000 jews to be born before the produce an invention. At this rate, a jew would've of invented and contributed to the world 10,000 inventions before a muslim produces even 1.

All of this was calculated using the muslim ratio of nobel peace prizes for the last 100 years in the sciences against the jewish portion and a bit of basic calculations. This will make any muslim whether a sincere believer or disbeliever or confused and undecided wonder there is serious flaw with this religion either it's the flavor of Islam bein practised or it's the actual idealogy.

We can then perform further experiments, the less religious a Somali is, the more intelligent and successful in life, why? yet the more religious a Somali is, the less successful and intelligent? you can sample the diaspora and observe this, the only reason is one left behind that Islam and accept the modern world, while another is still attached to proving 'donkey flew mohamed to heaven and defied gravity' lol.

In all honesty in Somalispot the ratio of believers vs disbelievers there is more believers but the 'undecided' crowd is the majority in Somalispot, mark my word and they are swinging to disbelief more and more by the day with your silly emotion and feelings of an after life lol.

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