I am not a scholar, cant answer that question. I will not critisice a sahabbi
Iam very critical of Muawiyah bin Sufyan.
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Likely non-Muslim and non-Somali, loool not surprised. Relieved for my people actually.Afraid to answer a simple question
Call Failmaajo, maybe he can help u
If you were serious you wouldn’t be seeking the opinion of an anon forumer.
And stop crying about Farmaajo, a better person than you are clearly.
Bye
Id be very careful If I were you Aisha RA and Muawiyyah fought on same side. These are disputes which you shouldnt discuss as it was a fitnah
fulaysanaa
U dont even know which group killed Ammar r.a
Guys i will leave it at here.
Just continue believing Ali r.a and Muawiya were fighting because they were bored and the group who killed Ammar r.a were good samaritans lol
Just continue believing Ali r.a and Muawiya were fighting because they were bored and the group who killed Ammar r.a were good samaritans lol
Aisha r.a repented and regretted.
We have no reports of Muawiyah repenting and regretting of fighting against Amir al muminineen Ali r.a. The one about whom prophet pbuh said: Tomorrow i shall give the banner to a man who loves Allah and his messenger and is loved by Allah and his messenger(pbuh).
The problem with salafism is that they say both(muawiya and Ali r.a) were on Xaqq(Truth).
Musaylama kadab was also a sahabi for a while. It says nothing.
There was also a sahabi who left islam and embraced Orthodox christianity in Ethiopia.
To be sahabi doesnt mean guaranteed Paradise
The hadith you quoted is actually 2 different hadiths that were said by the prophet at 2 different times. There's one hadith that talks about him being killed by the "transgressing party" and theres another hadith about him "calling them to allah and they call him to hellfire". It has been concluded by many of the past scholars that it was a copyist error that put these 2 hadiths together as they're not found in the earlier copies of sahih bukhari.
@SomaliWadaniSoldier I advise to look the videos of Yasir Qadhi about these events. He explains them good in their historical context. My second advise is you should stop starting to interpret Ahadith by yourself, there is a reason we ask the scholars for such kind of questions. None of us is a scholar bro, hence I say watch the video of Dr. Yasir qadhi. I don't don't know many other English speaking scholars who are trustworthy. Maybe @embarassing and others know some more. That's all I have to say.
What a fool! ASWJ agree that Ali RA was in the right but prefer too not judge the Sahabis and not condemn any party.
Becareful with Qadhi. He said something very dangerous about Gog and Magog.
He is regarded as deviant
Yet they praise Muawiya lmao.
I dont hate him, i just reject his rebellion against Amir al mumineen
Muawiyah had many virtues and was a righteous man, Ahlu sunnah give him benefit of the doubt that he was operating on his own ijtihad. May Allah make me meet him in Jannah
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None in particular rn. InshaAllah I’ll get back to learning and practicing more soon.
Which scholars do you listen to, I'm curious ?
This is Islamic history and not about Salafis who started yesterday. Why don’t you look into it instead of confidently speaking about things you don’t know much about?
Let’s say Muawiya was sinful? Many scholars before have said it, what is your point and who are you to judge people who have also done way more good than you?
The most accepted definition of a Sahaba is someone who lived and met the prophet sws during his life time, that obviously includes many people and doesn’t say much about their deen or character.
Lol you’re a troll. Actually, which Salafi even says Muawiya was correct? Or that both were on “haqq” we will wait troll.
Yasir Qadhi is deviant.
U guys are warned from taking knowledge of such corrupted folks
@embarassing @TekNiKo You two are blind followers of Xaarmaajo the puppet. That was my last reply.
U guys are warned from taking knowledge of such corrupted folks
@embarassing @TekNiKo You two are blind followers of Xaarmaajo the puppet. That was my last reply.
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Loool, you’re whole thread is based on mocking a supposed Salafi opinion then you quote a rando salafi from YouTube recording a video in his car as evidence.
embarassing
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Where is your evidence? I’m more likely to quote you praising invaders and all forms of degeneracy then you are me.
If you’re actually Somali (doubtful) you are truly deranged.
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